Finally Discovered Why I Don't Like GT5

[Zoom!Zoom!]

Not the same, really, not even close



Don't know why PD couldn't make that same deal.

To the OP, I hear you man. It does suck. I was running a Porsche hardcore with the group I race with and was looking forward to comparing it in this game until I realized that it wasn't going to happen.

I doubt a deal with be made between Microsoft ,Sony, Porsche and EA.

 

[GenkoMax]

This will summarize everything with one picture.

Oh god,

 

[gogatrs]

What if PD told Porsche they would pay for the lawsuit against EA if they broke the exclusivity contract?
No, I'm completely serious, that's not sarcasm.

How much do you think that would cost?

 

[Dennisch]

OMFG!!!!

There is an S in PorSche!!!

 

[brambos]

Out of all the moan and whine threads, this has to be the most pathetic one.

/Thread

 

[TheToad263]

Well, I agree with a lot of your criticisms except for the last one, which happens to be the biggest one for you. Not including Porsche in the game I can almost guarantee you was not PD's decision to exclude them. Many car games do not have Porsche in them and instead get around that by including the after market RUF brand. While I can not say with any certainty the reason why Porsche is in so few racing games, I have a feeling that it was the decision of Porsche and not PD.... for example the game Driver 2, also uses RUF in place of Porsche. Maybe someone else knows the actual reason.

 

[McLaren]

To the OP: Porsche's GT dominance in ALMS is about as amazing Chevrolet's in GT1.

You mean Ferrari.

Well it has Ferrari.

When was the last time Ferrari spent any time really racing outside of Formula 1? As far as the motorsports world is concerned, Risi is about the only team that brings racing wins to that manufacturer.

 

[HighSeasHoMastr]

To the OP: Porsche's GT dominance in ALMS is about as amazing Chevrolet's in GT1.

Haha, indeed, but that's why I didn't put that first on the list. And it's gotten a lot closer in the past few years, with BMW returning and Chevrolet dropping down to GT2.

 

[Destinkeys]

I hate to burst anyone's bubble, but there aren't ANY real cars in GT5!

They are ALL pieces of software, skins on handling models. The Minolta is no more real than the Cappuccino. Drive a Ferrari skin around, you aren't ACTUALLY driving a Ferrari! And having no Porsche doesn't deny you the opportunity to drive one, because you aren't driving one even if they DID have Porsche models.

But what grinds my gears is, while everyone goes crazy on ALL these racing games absolutely HAVING to have whatever their favorite dream car they wet themselves each night thinking about, darn few seem to care that you can take that car in the game, and drive it into a wall at 150mph, and drive away whistling! I mean, if you care SO MUCH about the visual representation of reality, why not care even MORE about the visual representation (and physics representation) of the consequences of driving it poorly..?

Personally, in a racing GAME, I could care LESS what skin I'm driving around in. It could be a generic BOX, for all I care! But I care deeply that you can bash it around, hammer the AI (or them you), smack into the Aramco and grind along it, or use chicane barriers as sudden brakes, and that isn't GAME OVER...

Selective 'suspension of disbelief' doesn't work for me. Make a model that looks so photo-realistic that you MIGHT (I guess, if you are that desperate) convince yourself that you really ARE driving the real thing around, but then hit another car at 150mph, and where is that belief now?

You want true immersion, you want to CARE about what you are driving, you have to care about what happens when it all goes wrong, IMO. But ranting about no Porsche, rather than no realistic damage just seems to indicate that looks are all you care for. In which, I suggest a big poster of a REAL Porsche for your dorm room, and a couple of die-cast models...

 

[afc2112]

To the OP: Porsche's GT dominance in ALMS is about as amazing Chevrolet's in GT1.

Porsche has raced the 911 in all sorts of motorsports. Not just ALMS.

It's won everything from Daytona, Sebring, Spa, Nurburgring, Le Mans, rallies, hillclimbs...

 

[XoravaX]

Other games have managed to secure licensing to have Porsche in them (Every Forza game, Need for Speed, TDU, PGR, etc.) so why couldn't PD manage?

TDU never had Porsches, neither does TDU2. They just had RUFs like in GT.

I don't see the lack of Porsche as a big problem. I would rather solve the lack of events, levelling system and convert standards to premiums before adding such things as new makers.

 

[Zoom!Zoom!]

You want true immersion, you want to CARE about what you are driving, you have to care about what happens when it all goes wrong, IMO. But ranting about no Porsche, rather than no realistic damage just seems to indicate that looks are all you care for.

There is no pc or console game that has anything close to "realistic" damage model. Hardcore sims has a hard enough time trying to model "tire physics".

 

[Shant J.]

While it is regrettable that Porsche isn't in, you must be joking, right? That ruins the whole game for you?

Hell, I'd kill to have Saab in the game, but I'm not moaning about it.

 

[afc2112]

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Personally, in a racing GAME, I could care LESS what skin I'm driving around in. It could be a generic BOX, for all I care! But I care deeply that you can bash it around, hammer the AI (or them you), smack into the Aramco and grind along it, or use chicane barriers as sudden brakes, and that isn't GAME OVER...

GT5 fails horribly as a RACING GAME.

 

[GTCR]

Porsche does not deserve a place in the game anyway.

 

[McLaren]

Porsche has raced the 911 in all sorts of motorsports. Not just ALMS.

It's won everything from Daytona, Sebring, Spa, Nurburgring, Le Mans, rallies, hillclimbs...

Congratulations for stating such an obvious fact. It doesn't change my point though, that there is nothing special about Porsche's dominance in ALMS when you consider that it's only main opponent was 1 Ferrari (Risi) & 3-5 other Porsche's.

 

[deviln3]

If you go looking for something.. you will find it.
It seems OP has spent countless days and nights in discomfort to come to this conclusion.

As for as Porsche inclusion in racing games goes, its up to Porsche to give out their licensing rights to developers. To my knowledge, EA has an exclusive deal or something, or developers are probably required to pay a premium to acquire the license.

Personally though, RUF is enough to satisfy this need.
If you are that crazy about Porsche, pick up a ps1 and buy NFS Porsche Unleashed. Ran through it twice, its a great game.

 

[HighSeasHoMastr]

If you are that crazy about Porsche, pick up a ps1 and buy NFS Porsche Unleashed. Ran through it twice, its a great game.

I have it for PC. Still play it now and again lol.

 

[MowTin]

GT5 fails horribly as a RACING GAME.

It's 2011 not 1995. Racing games are about ONLINE racing.

So many GT fans are stuck in the past of GT1, GT2, GT3, GT4 racing against AI, grinding for credits, trying get to 100% complete.

It's 2011. People play games ONLINE.

I have Battlefield Bad Company 2. The single player game sucks. But who cares? The fun is ONLINE playing against HUMANS.

 

[Yev]

Porsche have sold their licence to Electronic Arts (Need For Speed).
You have RUF.

 

[Welsh-Fury]

I'm running out of boxes of tissues for these bloody people...

 

[brycepunk]

[ ] Thread delivers, would read again.
[x] Thread fails to deliver.

 

[brainfade]

Thank you for wasting 5mins of my life that I will never get back, here I was expecting something intelligent and reasonable, you may as well hate GT5 for not having the Reliant Robin... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWJKUnKfVNo#t=0m07s

Mods, if the links pushing the theatrics a bit to far just PM me and ill remove it a.s.a.p

 

[stangposse]

OP, you want some cheese with that whine????

Your post is the ultimate fail. PD would include every car if they could. You're basically saying that PD would rather include a horse and chariot over one of the top manufacturers. Seriously????

At least you can drive a RUF in the game if you want.

 

[DMC_S2000]

Porsche? Meh...just like Jeremy Clarkson said...Porsches are just Volkswagen Beetle with spoilers...

I would take Korean cars over Porsche...

 

[Kool Mode D]

This will summarize everything with one picture.

lol! so true

 

[MrBlueSky]

It's absolutely funny how everyone is calling out the OP for stating his opinion, and then being told by others that his opinion is wrong and to stop crying. It's like everyone is crying about something that doesn't matter and nobody really cares.

To the OP, for a game that calls it's self the ultimate racing simulator, I'm having trouble coping with how absolute trash it is. It's like the wait for a new GT game made everyone so desperate that they'll take whatever rubbish PD put out and call it king. Hell, PD could have released an exact copy of Forza 3 (right down to the menus and nothing changed aside from the Forza logos being replaced with GT logos) and people would still say it was better than anything on the market (which is funny, since Forza 3 is trash as well, just slightly more enjoyable trash that is still trash nonetheless.)

But what do I know? I bought GT5.

 

[BlueSky]

I too wish Porsche was included in GT5. They are my favorite manufacturer. They could have included them had PD paid EA for a sub-license. But PD did not pay up.

I still enjoy GT5 even without Porsche. I do what others have said, I use the RUF's as much as possible in the game and really enjoy them. NO they are not Porsche's, they are not premiums and there are only 5 included in the game, but it's all we have.

One of the things that really bugs me about the game is the absolute absurd inequality of the car list. There are 617 Japanese cars in the game. Other regions represented include: Australia with 3, Belgium with 1, Canada 2, France 48, Germany 109, Italy 57, Korea 8, Netherlands 1, Spain 1, Sweden 3 (no SAAB's?), UK 64, and the USA with 131.

There are so many other GLARING omissions (aside from Porsche) in this game it's not even funny. The imbalance of automotive representation from a game that claims to be "The Real Driving Simulator" is simply astonishing.

There are plenty of other significant annoyances within this game as well. But, it's just a video game so try to ignore the frustrations and have fun. That's really the whole point... having fun.

 

[t.o.]

I doubt a deal with be made between Microsoft ,Sony, Porsche and EA.

The way I understand it Porsche pretty much just gave EA exclusive rights to do what it wants with the Porsche name as far as videogames go. So EA can sub it out, horde it or whatever. So Microsoft wouldn't have anything to do with a deal between EA and Sony.

Porsche does not deserve a place in the game anyway.

WOW, in order to NOT violate the AUI's or whatever they call it here, I'll just let this one sit on it's own so people can see somebody actually said this. WOW , just WOW.

Porsche? Meh...just like Jeremy Clarkson said...Porsches are just Volkswagen Beetle with spoilers...

I would take Korean cars over Porsche...

Two guys enter a building with a sign saying "FREE CARS: ONE PER CUSTOMER". They see one door with a line going from the 5th floor down the stairwell and out the building around the corner and down the street. They see another door with two people standing in front of it. They ask the security guard what's the deal. He says "That line with all the people is for the free Porsche, the other line is the two guys getting a Korean car. One guy is some dude from a message board the other guy can't read so he thinks he's out smarting everyone"

 

[panjandrum]

Porsche? Meh...just like Jeremy Clarkson said...Porsches are just Volkswagen Beetle with spoilers...

I would take Korean cars over Porsche...

I'm going to make a guess here that you've never driven a decent Porsche?

Jeremy Clarkson is a very funny guy. I love his show. I love the british sense of humor. But his taste in cars? His true skill as a driver? Well, let's just say I trust those other two british blokes a lot more. Frankly, Clarkson never liked Porsches because he's just way too clumsy a driver to learn how to drive them properly. (He admits quite frequently that he's pretty ham-fisted. I'm not judging him, that's fine, but Porsche are truly designed for skilled and nimble drivers. They definitely don't suit his driving style.)

I would love to see Porsche in GT6 (assuming there is a GT6). It is a major oversight and a bit of an embarrassment to the franchise. However, I do consider the RUFs to be an excellent 'substitute' and personally feel that the Yellowbird is of more historic significance than any comparable-era Porsche 911. I really miss the great variety of Porsches though. It would be so nice to have them (even having the RUFs and premiums would go a long way to pleasing us Porsche fans.)

@brainfade: I think having a Reliant Robin in GT5 would be *brilliant*. What fun that would be! What laughs!