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Discussion in 'GT6 Tuning' started by shaunm80, Jan 4, 2016.
Aren't RUFs and Porsche supposed to be like that all about?
Yes.. but I also like to feel like I am in some control of what the car does too. PD gave these cars no love at all so being able to drive these cars is what this FITT event is all about for me.
Thanks for the feedback, I do appreciate it. I found chassis reinforcement huge on this car, generally I don't like to use it as I have it makes most cars worse in my opinion, or does very little. But for some it really helps, I took 1.5 off and found more consistency with it. Obviously, I run the same line so the S curves were not that big of an issue and I got down to mid 2.03s. But I can see it Maybe not being easy for others. If that was the only place it really was off for you, I'll take it. And you mirrored my time.
Thanks for the kind words.
The car is darn near stock!
I took it out to Route X and did some drag race launches with it and got the shift points to land in their proper spots, or close anyways. With as much torque as the CTR2 has, I wanted to use it. 673 ft-lbs is a boatload. But then on track it had a funky shift point for the auto trans users (I tested ), so I compromised a little. Somewhat "specially tuned"
is @xande1959 in the Open track day challenge?
He wasn't on the tuner list but I will check with Otaliema.
I just saw him posting a CTR2 tune with 575pp that's all
@shaunm80 I don't have nearly enough time to test them all sorry.
@Bowtie-muscle Yep the rest of the lap was more or less equal, the @coryclifford car was easily 0.4-0.5 secs quicker at the first marker.
@coryclifford Every once in a while a car is best near stock, guess this is one of those times.
RGT still trashes the CTR2.
@shaunm80 , i'm very very happy. Thanks for your review.
I just realized i bought a knife to a gun fight, i'm half way thru and, i'm the only one off.
Congratulations @Motor City Hami on Tune of the Week. Going by the responses so far, it is well deserved indeed.
RUF CTR2 "96
Weight Distribution (F/R):
Parts & Modifications
Height-Adjustable, Fully Customizable Suspension
Triple-Plate Clutch Kit
Mid RPM Range Turbo Kit
Racing Brake Kit
Fully-Customizable Mechanical Limited-Slip Differential
Torque-Distributing Center Differential
Ride Height (F/R):
96 / 91
Spring Rate (F/R):
5.06 / 9.95
Dampers - Comp. (F/R):
8 / 7
Dampers - Ext. (F/R):
7 / 8
Anti-Roll Bars (F/R):
6 / 3
Camber Angle (F/R):
1.1 / 1.1
Toe Angle (F/R):
0.30 / 0.50
Brake Balance (F/R):
7 / 3
reset / 280 Km/h / 123456 / 3.444
Initial Torque (F/R):
5 / 7
Accel. Sensitivity (F/R):
15 / 16
Braking Sensitivity (F/R):
7 / 10
Torque-Distributing Center Dif... = 32 : 68
F/R Torque Distribution:
Ballast Weight = 65 Kg
Ballast Position = 0 %
I knew it you had something up for the CTR2
You stayed quiet on this one, my friend! Glad to see you put this in.
I had wrong setup.
I had to put another 65 kg (ballast weight) and thus achieve above 95% (power limiter)
I will not change anything
has understeer, so take the foot off the accelerator on corner entry. is docile on the accelerator
and there I was thinking I had done all my testing and was just chilling.. on the plus side, another tune to drive! more fun to be had yet!
Build is good. No issues.
@xande1959 - Your review has been done and my review sheet updated.
That was fast...
It only takes 25 minutes to test one car. Not long at all really.
good job you held. I congratulate good performance. once again thank you for answering my request to post this blue car.
Testing deadline for the Old School Class is 5 days away. Are you two getting on okay with testing? if you need an extension on the deadline, let me know ASAP.
Times and ranks updated.
RUF Open Track Day Rank | Average Lap Rank points
@TheInfamousJEW6 11 | 2:08.163 +02.852 9.777
@Otaliema 8 | 2:06.444 +01.133 9.910
@Bowtie-muscle 6 | 2:06.300 +00.989 9.922
@joaosoarescso 10 | 2:07.442 +02.131 9.833
@Brewguy44 5 | 2:05.981 +00.670 9.947
@lBt_33 7 | 2:06.354 +01.043 9.917
@coryclifford 1 | 2:05.311 +00.000 10.000
@hall90 9 | 2:06.946 +01.635 9.871
@shaunm80 2 | 2:05.342 +00.031 9.998
@Ale67 3 | 2:05.652 +00.341 9.973
@xande1954 4 | 2:5.841 +00.530 9.958
Suzuka 2014 Lap Time
1 @coryclifford 2:05.311 +00.000
2 @shaunm80 2:05.342 +0.031
3 @Ale67 2:05.652 +0.341
4 @xande1954 2:5.841 +0.530
5 @Brewguy44 2:05.981 +0.670
Suzuka 2014 DC Score
1 @Bowtie-muscle 25.00
2 @shaunm80 20.00
3 @Brewguy44 18.00
4 @xande1954 15.00
5 @hall90 12.00
RUF Open Track Day Suzuka 2014
2:05.311; @coryclifford's tune Driven By shaunm80
Most Consistent shaunm80 2.852
Fastest Average shaunm80 126.343
All good except it is xande1959, instead of xande1954
Open Track Day Class Testing
Well, here it is, my test & review on this amaxing track with these amazing cars, some were quite fun others were a handful but overall a great way to learn tuning.
10 laps each, grip set to real, R2 for throttle, L2 for brakes, left analog for sterring, X upshift, square for down shift.
Best Lap Time - 2:05.409
DC - 11th
Tune Comments -
First impressions was that i thought this was going to be really stable, and it is if you keep her within the cars limitations. Going through the 1st corner and the red outside tire was red glowing, and pretty much was like that all the way, even at high speed corners it was always like that.
The car feels heavy on cornering and once i learned how to drive her way it was a nice experience, but it wasn't enough for a good lap so 2 last laps is when I was pushing her really hard and the last lap was the fastest.If i kept like that i was afraid i would burn the front tires because in 2 laps they had a little tiny little bit of orange.
I really had high hopes but i guess it doesn't fit quite well on me. Good lap though
Best Lap Time - 2:04.268
DC - 3rd
Tune Comments - Very very easy to drive on the limit and very unforgiving if you pass that limit, the way the LSD and torque slipt are virtually perfect. There's a little of understeer on corner entry and exit too, but no oversteer, even on the limit the rear end would stick and only come out to correct a bad entry corner, but if i pushed to hard the front outside tire would turn orange like @TheInfamousJEW6 CTR2 but less noticeable. I felt that the 4th gear was a little short to my taste but the rest was good, this was the only car that reached 287km/h!!!! at the end on the home straight, and still i found the gearbox was a little tiny bit short, but now i see why it was designed like that.
Best Lap Time - 2:05.636
DC - 2nd
Tune Comments -
A very precise tune, it has almost no understeer at all with a little bit of oversteer on lower corners, the brakes were my bigger concern, i couldn't find a comfortable braking zone and i think that shows on the time. This car is really good and really fast, but not at my hands, i just couln't find its hidden speed.
Best Lap Time - 2:06.014
DC - 9th
Tune Comments -
I hate reviewing my own tunes, but well here its what i think. I'm terrible tuning 4WD so after a couple of initial laps i thought it would be quite easy until i started to mess with the LSD, and i thought "ohh boy this is going to be hard", but in this car description they mention a 2WD CTR2 so why not? I threw the front LSD out the window and focus on eliminating as much oversteer as possible, and i'm happy with the results, it's not the fastest of the group and it drives in a unique way. A little bit of tap braking here and there and throttle control should do the trick.
When live gives you lemons you make lemonade, i made orange juice.
Best Lap Time - 2:04.749
DC - 7th
Tune Comments - This is a very very very stable car, with a little bit of understeer on entering a corner and out, and that rear was surely planted, she wobbles changing directions to quickly making the front slide briefly.
I was getting blue lap after lap, and jumped from the 2:06 to 2:04 halfway through, but on the last couple laps i really tried hard to push her for a good lap and those front tires wouldn't grip, and by the time i notice that i would go off track it was impossible to recover, overall a great tune.
Best Lap Time - 2:04.333
DC - 4th
Tune Comments - Ok, first of all, if you drive it using the bumper view, if you hear it carefully, i love the sound the gearbox does in 5th gear at around 6000rpm, it sounds like a supercharger , i don't know if it happened by chance or if it was intentional, but i love it!! It haves the perfect amount of oversteer on slower corners, but it haves a slightly hint of understeer on high speed corners, under than that, the gearbox is perfect for this car it was the only one that could keep up with otaliema CTR2 on the home straight, and it drives quite nice, no major flaws.
Best Lap Time - 2:05.293
DC - 8th
Tune Notes - When i saw the setting to this i was a little dissapointed , and my first impressions were that, i wasn't expecting a good time, but i got suprised.
It feel like a TT car, with the tail sliding going full out, sliding all the corners. it understeers and oversteers ALOT if you aren't careful enough with that throttle coming out of slower corners, and on high speed corners it kinda understeers, i can't explain quite well...
Overall this is a good car and very fast, but not by me, like @Bowtie-muscle tune I can't unlock its hidden speed.
Best Lap Time - 2:04.834
DC - 6th
Tune Comments - You really need to make sure you have enough track when your floor it out of the corner, she haves a good turn in ability but some understeer on exit. The rear is planted, even if i push it, it really doesn't want to kick out, which if it was a little bit tiny loose i think I would be a little faster.THe gearbox feels long, almost feeling like a 5 speed but i found enough speed and space for 6th, it feels the slowest of them all on the straights and i think its down to the PP.
Best Lap Time - 2:04.942
DC - 1st
Tune Comments - She's really stable, feels really well balanced, she haves the right amount of understeer to tell you to back off your on the limit and the right amount of oversteer to correct you from going wide. This car feels fast, i really like how she could handle those corners, and the brakes do a nice job. Its a very good tune, one of my favorite so far!!
Best Lap Time - 2:05.566
Tune Comments - There's 2 types of understeer, the one that where the front of the car pulls out of the corner and when the front push into the inside of the corner and this car haves both, On medium to slow corners it would push in and on medium to high speed it would pull out. If i changed directions to quickly that rear would just give up on me and start sliding around.
The gearbox was short but fast like otaliema one, but i couldn't find a rythm right until the end and managed a good time.
This was a last minute entry as i was typing this half way thru but i managed it
Best Lap Times - 2:04.994
Tune Comments - The rear of this car feels very planted with a noticable amout of understeer coming out of the corner,there were 2 maybe 3 slower corners where the rear would slide and lose grip but i think i was a little to fast coming out of them.The gearbox felt short and slow, it couldn't go over 280kmh like the others could and i think it hinder the lap time, i think controlling the front end's understeer was quite easy and overall a great tune.
Great reviews sir. I'm happy to see the car agreed with you she is picky it was from the start her way or the wall
I will get your times loaded later tonight
Thanks for the review .
@joaosoarescso Thanks for the review!! I obviously have a lot to learn when tuning these 4WD cars. I'll just have to keep at it! That's why I enter these FITT events, so I can learn how to tune better, faster, and with more enjoyable results! I have a feeling this won't be anyone's favorite tune, but that's ok cuz there's always the next competition!
@joaosoarescso times loaded.
RUF Open Track Day Rank | Average Lap Points DC Rank | DC
@TheInfamousJEW6 11 | 2:06.786 +01.644 9.870 11 | 10.00
@Otaliema 4 | 2:05.356 +00.214 9.983 5 | 25.00
@Bowtie-muscle 9 | 2:05.968 +00.826 9.934 1 | 45.00
@joaosoarescso 10 | 2:06.728 +01.586 9.875 10 | 13.00
@Brewguy44 5 | 2:05.365 +00.223 9.982 3 | 27.00
@lBt_33 3 | 2:05.344 +00.202 9.984 6 | 23.00
@coryclifford 2 | 2:05.302 +00.160 9.987 9 | 17.00
@hall90 8 | 2:05.890 +00.748 9.941 7 | 22.00
@shaunm80 1 | 2:05.142 +00.000 10.000 1 | 45.00
@Ale67 7 | 2:05.609 +00.467 9.963 8 | 18.00
@xande1954 6 | 2:05.417 +00.275 9.978 3 | 27.00
Suzuka 2014 Lap Time
1 @shaunm80 2:05.142 +00.000
2 @coryclifford 2:05.302 +00.160
3 @lBt_33 2:05.344 +00.202
4 @Otaliema 2:05.356 +00.214
5 @Brewguy44 2:05.365 +00.223
Suzuka 2014 DC Score
1 @shaunm80 45.00
2 @Bowtie-muscle 45.00
3 @Brewguy44 27.00
4 @xande1954 27.00
5 @Otaliema 25.00
RUF Open Track Day Suzuka 2014
2:04.268; @Otaliema's tune Driven By joaosoarescso
Most Consistent joaosoarescso 1.746
Fastest Average joaosoarescso 125.094
Thanks @shaunm80. So glad that I posted it. I almost didn't.