Ford Mustang Thread: 2011 General Talk

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^ Okay, so redline is probably around 6800 maybe 7000? That's not particularly high either. Most OHC V8s of that size making that kind of power have peaks and redlines in the same neighborhood.

Look don't get me wrong --all aluminum, overhead cam, 4 valves, variable valve timing, forged crank, that's a pretty feature rich engine for a such a modest price point and therefore a stellar value. But I don't think "screaming" till I hear 8000 RPM or more.


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Any engine of that displacement at that price point, with that much metal moving around, hitting 8000-8500RPM at redline, would run for about a month of driving like that, and then send something through the block. Even stronger components would be needed for a race engine revving that high.

That, and, if they did pull it off, it'd probably encroach on the GT500 in Price and Performance...and at road speeds, feel like it has a Geo Metro engine. Until about 4,000.
 
Jim Prower
Any engine of that displacement at that price point, with that much metal moving around, hitting 8000-8500RPM at redline, would run for about a month of driving like that, and then send something through the block. Even stronger components would be needed for a race engine revving that high.
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It's not an issue of technical or economic feasibility.

The fact is, the new GT engine has a similar engine speed compared to numerous "around 5.0 liter" overhead cam V8s already in the market place. None of those engines I would consider "screamers" regardless of price.

I understand the technical and economic hurdles involved in getting a big motor to spin faster --but what it costs is not the point.


M
 
You know, 390 lb-ft is actually a very good number. Way more than any of the equivalent 5.0 liter performance engines that I can think of (granted, I can only think of ones from Toyota and Nissan), and around the same as what the Terminator and Cobra R offered (or, rather, what they were rated at).

I can only hope it is enough to get the crap 5.4 out of the F-150, though.
 
R1600Turbo
I'll play nice with this:

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/17/2011-ford-mustang-gt-to-offer-412-horsepower-5-0l-v8/

Oh snap.
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R1600Turbo
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/18/i-autoweek-i-spills-more-beans-on-the-2011-ford-mustangs-5-0/
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Good god almighty I think Ford's just taken the pony/muscle car wars and run away with it. Nothing within $25,000 of the sticker price will come close to the numbers.

And did I read 390tq at 6,500RPM? Can I get an exhaust clip please? I need to get my bib. :D And 6spd manual for more win. So I'd imagine this thing could very well keep up with the Terminator. Which is the previous best Mustang ever. I can't wait to hear a supercharger on this new 5.0L. :D
 
Now I'm reading that IRS would've been cheaper to implement than the solid axle after all. Hopefully that means we'll get it, as an option at the very least, in the future.
 
I can haz 5.0 swap for my Interceptor?!

Suddenly thoughts of a modern day white 5.0 with the ragtop down made me chuckle.
 
Toronado
In all seriousness, I am curious about the size/weight of the new engine.
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Can't be much better or worse than the old 4.6 DOHCs.


Actually I'm interested in the bore/stroke. Maybe they went back to the old 4" bore and 3" stroke. The valvetrain and heads stopped Windsors from revving, not the bottom end.
 
Re: Screamers, why would you want a screamer anyway?:p Cross-plane cranks ftw!:lol:

I wonder when Falcon gets it and what the XR8 and FPV numbers will be (if the XR8 still exists by that time as they were talking about leaving V8s just to FPV).

LOL, someone should import some FPV badges and chuck them on their modified 5.0L Mustang.:D
 
Omnis
Now I'm reading that IRS would've been cheaper to implement than the solid axle after all. Hopefully that means we'll get it, as an option at the very least, in the future.
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At the very least, I'm sure it'll be standard on the next generation car. Apparently that isn't too far away since the current one isn't that much more than an update of a previous car?
 
Yeah, but it is an update that essentially makes most of the newer cars in the segment irrelevant. Kinda like the Golf VI, for example.
 
Paulie
Re: Screamers, why would you want a screamer anyway?:p Cross-plane cranks ftw!:lol:
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Sure. If you wanted your car to sound like a pair of fours stuck together. ;p

I wonder when Falcon gets it and what the XR8 and FPV numbers will be (if the XR8 still exists by that time as they were talking about leaving V8s just to FPV).

LOL, someone should import some FPV badges and chuck them on their modified 5.0L Mustang.:D
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Um....

I'll do it. Only where the Ford badges are, of course.:3
 
Philly
At the very least, I'm sure it'll be standard on the next generation car. Apparently that isn't too far away since the current one isn't that much more than an update of a previous car?
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Well, I hope so. And I hope they ditch the stupid retro gauges and dash treatment while they're at it.
 
JCE
Good god almighty I think Ford's just taken the pony/muscle car wars and run away with it. Nothing within $25,000 of the sticker price will come close to the numbers.
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Pretty much. Unless GM gets around to selling us a stripper SS (or Z/28) that sheds a bunch of weight and keeps the power pretty solid, the Mustang is going to run away from the competition without much of a problem.
 
Hmm....I wonder how much any of the FRPP options (mainly the S/C) would tack on to the MSRP on one of these....

Wait, what is the MSRP on one of these new '11 GTs? Still around $30K?
 
Rotary Junkie
Given how the current one does, that'll be THE car to have for a RWD coupe.
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Indeed. But, we've got nearly 6-8 months before these come out, so Chevrolet still has time to step up the Camaro.

Except, by my judgment, they'll do so by adding in some model that costs $5K more than the GT Track & only make minor tweaks to the current models.
 
So when's the Expedition and Navigator going to be sold with this new 5.0L V8? I can see one of these SUV's becoming a new edition to my family :D
 
My uncle has been hearing insane things about the 6.2... Something about either 500 ft-lbs or 500hp, considering it'll go into the trucks I'm leaning towards ft-lbs.
 

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