A point I stand by, but it would appear that a slightly humorous reply has got you more than a little worked up. My words? No I'm quite happy to leave your own words to do that. Now I believe that you will struggle to make me the cause of the outstanding replies to these... https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=8298519#post8298519 https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=8298563#post8298563 And most recently...... https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=8491398#post8491398 ...a thread in which you opened by trying to imply that GT5 held a locked 60fps even with rain... ...getting rather irate when it was pointed out that was not the case, you then attempted to prove this point using a video without rain to show the progress PD had made on frame rates (which they have - when you don't have rain). I don't need to put words in your mouth at all, nonsense finds its own way out already. Also would you mind letting us know again how many hours you've logged on FM4 to speak with so much authority on it? Or will you simply be not posting again for a while?