Forza Horizon 5: General Discussion

[Populuxe]

Now you can show off by completing the challenge with the D-class 300 SL

To finish off last week's daily challenges, it was necessary to gift a car. I didn't have any to gift, so I bought a 1955 Mercedes-Benz 300 SLR for 143,000,000 credits and gave it away. I figured if I've got to buy a car from the autoshow to gift, then I might as well go big.

 

[Digolgrin]

So both the Ioniq 5 N and the Kia EV6 GT are Sports Utility Heroes-class cars, which makes sense now that I realize this is probably Team Off-Road's reward for 'winning' the Race-Off. But holy crap, the Ioniq 5 N is actually just a few tens of PI points behind the Urus in terms of stock PI, and it's an EV so you can tweak its top speed on the fly using final drive tuning. Now I know why they didn't just make the Ioniq a Series reward.

 

[CarbonDaimon]

ioniq 5 N 8-speed or no?
the playground left the car lacking resources unfortunately.

Hyundai IONIQ 5 N - Missing Manual Mode/Gear Shifts in HUD and Animation

Dear PlayGround Games, the Ignition sound mode and simulated manual transmission IONIQ 5 N are what mak the car so special compared to the lifeless EVs we already have in game. Please do not rob the vehicle of its personality. The sound simulation is done so well IRL that you can hit the...

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Hyundai Ioniq 5 2023 - missing simulated engine audio

Currently, the Ioniq 5 N is only available in EV mode, this means it’s missing it’s most distinct feature, the simulated engine feature. This should be added as a option.

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[TGR55]

ioniq 5 N 8-speed or no?
the playground left the car lacking resources unfortunately.

Hyundai IONIQ 5 N - Missing Manual Mode/Gear Shifts in HUD and Animation

Dear PlayGround Games, the Ignition sound mode and simulated manual transmission IONIQ 5 N are what mak the car so special compared to the lifeless EVs we already have in game. Please do not rob the vehicle of its personality. The sound simulation is done so well IRL that you can hit the...

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Hyundai Ioniq 5 2023 - missing simulated engine audio

Currently, the Ioniq 5 N is only available in EV mode, this means it’s missing it’s most distinct feature, the simulated engine feature. This should be added as a option.

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If you watch their update 35 stream you know the answer for that question. The reason is to differentiate gas car from ev cars. If they simulate it, will it be technically simulating a simulated engine sound?

 

[nukleabomb]

If you watch their update 35 stream you know the answer for that question. The reason is to differentiate gas car from ev cars. If they simulate it, will it be technically simulating a simulated engine sound?

Not wrong, but instead of a drift mode, one could have been an ICE mode.

 

[CarbonDaimon]

If you watch their update 35 stream you know the answer for that question. The reason is to differentiate gas car from ev cars. If they simulate it, will it be technically simulating a simulated engine sound?

But if the car has these features and they don't add them, then the playground was wrong to not add them. unfortunately the car was incomplete, and what made the car interesting is now just another electric car.

 

[Digolgrin]

If you watch their update 35 stream you know the answer for that question. The reason is to differentiate gas car from ev cars. If they simulate it, will it be technically simulating a simulated engine sound?

This is the reason they gave during the stream, yeah, and it does honestly make sense, since Playground has been pro-EV for a long time. But I think the real reason is technical, mostly to do with old code; I had a look at the XML files for the cars, and it looks like each one can only have one set of engine sounds at a time, only changed by engine swaps and upgrades that modify it like.exhaust and intakes. If they wanted to use the simulated ICE and simulated gears, in, say, a new driving mode, that would basically require rewriting that XML code, and the code that handles driving modes, for one car, which might not be seen as worth doing at the possible tail end of a live service game like what FH5 is at now. Thus it's just easier to port what you have from the Nevera and Mustang Mach-E, which just changes the way the drivetrain operates, and stick with the EV mode.

Now, would it be possible to create new "engine swap" and "transmission" upgrades to let players still have that mode but at a price rather than at the press of a button? I think so, they've done it in the past for EV battery swaps and especially the four-speed drift transmission EVs have. But that isn't high on PG's priority list, especially considering how little Hyundai or Microsoft probably actually paid PG to include the Ioniq 5 N in FH5.

 

[The_Greaser]

Out of curiosity: Did they really forget to use the current Kia logo for the UI screen? I mean they have it on the EV6, which is personally a decent EV.

 

[Digolgrin]

Out of curiosity: Did they really forget to use the current Kia logo for the UI screen? I mean they have it on the EV6, which is personally a decent EV.

I think so, now that I think about it. They must've gotten permission from either Hyundai or Kia itself to use it for the sake of readability on the UI screen, but... that doesn't matter when you've got the manufacturer name on a bar on the top of the screen!

 

[Digolgrin]

And now James Pumphrey, the man who was responsible for Donut's famous "Mo Powah Baby" catchphrase, has apparently left too?

 

[FoxMulder]

And now James Pumphrey, the man who was responsible for Donut's famous "Mo Powah Baby" catchphrase, has apparently left too?

Corporate investors ruining another personality driven media outlet by running off the people that built it.

 

[-Fred-]

Nothing of value was lost.

 

[Mae Borowski]

I think if James has left, Nolan won't be far behind

 

[LumpiestFish]

I think Donut get ragged on unfairly. Admittedly, I have never really followed their content particularly closely, but feel as though I’ve seen enough to understand what they’re about. The content stealing is obviously an issue, but from what I’ve seen, the people behind the videos seem like good people land do well at conveying their content for their audience. Their audience is obviously younger, which their content reflects, and I feel they do it well with a slight alternative edge to what feels like the typical hyper masculine bro culture that is heavily infected into youth car culture. I feel like many on here miss the point of of what they are, they’re typically introducing a younger, quite base level automotive fan to stories and knowledge beyond that, in a way that is easily digestible.

 

[Digolgrin]

I think Donut get ragged on unfairly. Admittedly, I have never really followed their content particularly closely, but feel as though I’ve seen enough to understand what they’re about. The content stealing is obviously an issue, but from what I’ve seen, the people behind the videos seem like good people land do well at conveying their content for their audience. Their audience is obviously younger, which their content reflects, and I feel they do it well with a slight alternative edge to what feels like the typical hyper masculine bro culture that is heavily infected into youth car culture. I feel like many on here miss the point of of what they are, they’re typically introducing a younger, quite base level automotive fan to stories and knowledge beyond that, in a way that is easily digestible.

I agree with quite a bit of this. Sure, I think a lot of the animosity here comes from the fact that they don't seem to represent Forza as a brand much at all, what with its previous collaborations with Top Gear--plus, well, they still have that 'bro culture' emanating through everything they do, especially with their appearances in video games, it's really hard to shake that in an interactive format. But the truth is, while they may not fit with Forza as a brand, they're absolutely a great fit for Horizon as a brand--to the point where I bet you anything Playground must have been genuinely excited to have landed that cross-collab deal all those years ago. Their whole thing is tuning and upgrades, which Horizon celebrates with just about every car they add coming with some sort of build potential. If anything, Donut and Horizon were made for each other, lol.

But at the same time... I think it's important to keep in mind that if Donut Media weren't bought by Recurrent Ventures, the company currently running Donut into the ground, in November 2021--which, man, that was just about a week after FH5 came out--this collab wouldn't have happened at all. Ironically, it was Donut Media selling out that led to them being able to collaborate with Forza and The Crew, and now all of that is at the very least in question. I doubt we'll see any issues with, say, a Donut Media car pack, and if we do end up getting Donut Media Part 3 PG could easily say all of the dialogue for the Story we'd get was recorded before James, Zach and Jeremiah left the channel. But FH6 might not be able to get any Donut Media cars to carry over from 5 to 6 as a result, depending on what happens to the channel after James leaves for good. We'll have to see.

 

[RazorSharkz]

I know Donut isn't very popular around here but Pumphrey is Donut. He's the mascot, the star, the main attraction. He's the thing people like about Donut. That will be a huge loss for them, but Pumphrey will find work so don't think this is the end of him on your screens.

 

[pclark06]

But at the same time... I think it's important to keep in mind that if Donut Media weren't bought by Recurrent Ventures, the company currently running Donut into the ground, in November 2021--which, man, that was just about a week after FH5 came out--this collab wouldn't have happened at all. Ironically, it was Donut Media selling out that led to them being able to collaborate with Forza and The Crew, and now all of that is at the very least in question. I doubt we'll see any issues with, say, a Donut Media car pack, and if we do end up getting Donut Media Part 3 PG could easily say all of the dialogue for the Story we'd get was recorded before James, Zach and Jeremiah left the channel. But FH6 might not be able to get any Donut Media cars to carry over from 5 to 6 as a result, depending on what happens to the channel after James leaves for good. We'll have to see.

Motorfest's Donut collab is Donut part 3 /s

(Their collab has more video content and more of them, so that will be ummm fun to look at in the future)

 

[Digolgrin]

Motorfest's Donut collab is Donut part 3 /s

(Their collab has more video content and more of them, so that will be ummm fun to look at in the future)

Well yeah, Ubisoft is actually in-tune with the internet enough to go out and sponsor YouTubers, so of course they're gonna come in with that kinda production value.

 

[Gotbeefboy564]

Would be playing now but the servers are still down.

 

[Populuxe]

Uh, you wanna take another pass at that sentence, PG?

 

[TGR55]

Uh, you wanna take another pass at that sentence, PG?
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Its Hyundai Ioniq 5 n for the 20 pts this week aswell. The kia is for 80 pts overall

 

[Edax 76]

Uh, you wanna take another pass at that sentence, PG?
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That's great written England.😂😂

 

[Apple Slipper]

In recent news, the MG MG7 (debuted in Forza Horizon 5) is going to launch in Australia next year. This actually surprised me, as it originally wasn't going to be sold here.

Link: https://www.drive.com.au/news/mg-7-toyota-camry-rival-confirmed-australia/

 

[buickgnx88]

In recent news, the MG MG7 (debuted in Forza Horizon 5) is going to launch in Australia next year. This actually surprised me, as it originally wasn't going to be sold here.

Even though the graphics are improving, there's still something about the above image that tells your brain that it's a Forza model and not the real thing.

 

[Beebo]

Forza paint's reaction to direct sunlight, direct lighting, and just light in general is still not where it should be, so that's probably why you can spot them so easily. This applies to all the other materials too though, FM didn't make as big of a jump as I was hoping it would but hopefully PGG can manage something for FH6!

 

[skazz]

I find that HDR makes a big difference to the lighting model, but of course all the screenshots and videos on the net are still SDR.

 

[Ryan81]

Is it just me or are these sporty EVs boring as you-know-what? The Ioniq 5 is very nice to drive but God, without any sound it's so lifeless. I'd hate to think when motorsports switch to all electric how boring a spectacle that would be.

 

[notsofast]

Nothing like firing the game up after a few wines and thinking I’ll have another crack at this weeks speed zone. Carry too much speed towards the final gate and wind up crossing the line sideways leading to one thinking you’ve stuffed this up but no you actually won! Cue much laughter from this village idiot. Good times

 

[Stray Cat]

Is it just me or are these sporty EVs boring as you-know-what? The Ioniq 5 is very nice to drive but God, without any sound it's so lifeless. I'd hate to think when motorsports switch to all electric how boring a spectacle that would be.

They are indeed boring. Incredibly boring. Not a fan of the styling either.

 

[The_Greaser]

Uh, you wanna take another pass at that sentence, PG?
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Misspellings and typos are just something that happens to everyone.

Also, I wanted to bring some hubris about the Universal Icons car pack, as well as finally getting a KITT rather than getting ripped off years ago. Yes, we know the pack is overpriced for five cars, especially if they went the extra mile of including all the BTTF DeLoreans (which are all debadged). Should it be a wait for a sale, since I quit playing the game due to instability issues of the Series S and, I am hoping to get a Series X come Christmas.

About KITT, Yes I have read comments about it and it looks great. On to the story then. About six years ago when I was on Forzacentral, there were comments from summer 2018 about a fake Forza Motorsport 7 car pack containing content related to the whole Gumball 3000 saga. I would tell you the so-called pack was totally fake because it had cars that already existed in the game, including a pretuned Firebird with a KITT livery, and of course it had a Toyota Supra in it (Remember that during that time Toyota had licensing issues, so that's why they weren't in FM7). There was even a video about it but I think it got taken down. Don't know if it was true but that was the story on Forzacentral.