Forza Horizon 5 Rally Adventure Expansion

[Mr Fahrenheit]

I mean. They're the same folk that got butthurt when someone posted that real Forza fans actually enjoy a Forza game for what it is (much like GT), and the reddit people would tell them to stop having fun with Forza, it is terrible. I had to laugh because it got them worked up. But that's what they are; a bunch of soured babies who'd hate anything Forza does when it's not what 'they' wanted. They're a joke.

People over on r/games were a lot more receptive, so it just seem to be a vocal minority situation. I'm sure they'll get over it in a day or two.

 

[nukleabomb]

Have we ever had a third expansion in a previous game?

If Porsche expansion counts then yes.
FH1: Rally Expansion and 1000 Club.
FH2: Storm Island, Fast & Furious and Porsche Expansion.
FH3: Blizzard Mountain and Hot Wheels (+ Porsche Car Pack).
FH4: Fortune Island and LEGO Speed Champions.
FH5: Hot Wheels and Rally Adventure.

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[Apple Slipper]

Gotta say, GTPlanet is THE best place to talk about Forza content and expansions. Most people here are not narrow-minded.

 

[GTxForza]

I can feel the nostalgia of various classic arcade-style off-road racing games in this coming up Rally Adventure expansion.

 

[Mister_XFR]

This further justifies my decision not to buy an Xbox Series X or Forza Horizon 5…

 

[inCloud]

I don’t see any auto-based game hitting that number in the coming years unless it’s got “Grand Theft” as its first two words.

Crew Motorfest could, theoretically, do that. Its have potential install base x2 of what Horizon have. Put it into Gamepass and PS+something, make it better than TC2 here and there and thats it.

Solar Crown wouldn't be comparable in terms of available content and would, at best, scratch latest NFS numbers.

I really think that next big thing in arcade racing games could be made by Milestone. HWU was insanely good.

 

[Apple Slipper]

I mean. They're the same folk that got butthurt when someone posted that real Forza fans actually enjoy a Forza game for what it is (much like GT), and the reddit people would tell them to stop having fun with Forza, it is terrible. I had to laugh because it got them worked up. But that's what they are; a bunch of soured babies who'd hate anything Forza does when it's not what 'they' wanted. They're a joke.

Yep. I kind of rolled my eyes at some of the fans on Twitter, YouTube, and Reddit wanting Forza to be like Need For Speed. Forza is NOT Need For Speed and should not be Need For Speed.

 

[TokoTurismo]

People over on r/games were a lot more receptive, so it just seem to be a vocal minority situation. I'm sure they'll get over it in a day or two.

Ahh okay. So the minority are the jokers and not the rest of reddit. My apologies to those non minority folk. 👍 It's too bad I can't say the same for twitter and youtube though. Those guys are so annoying to scroll through in the comment sections.

Yep. I kind of rolled my eyes at some of the fans on Twitter, YouTube, and Reddit wanting Forza to be like Need For Speed. Forza is NOT Need For Speed and should not be Need For Speed.

I'd want Forza to be NOTHING like NFS and NFS not like Forza at all. Both games should do there own things and not be like the other. It's like how I'm starting to see The Crew Motorfest. Its trailer screamed Horizon to me.

 

[Ande3200]

Nothing intresting for me, i have not played fh5 for months and wont come back to it, i was hoping for something new, if that was the case i would play again, but with this, this game will keep by no enjoyment for me

 

[Auditore]

Seeing as DLC usually has an element in it they're testing for the next release......bring on South Africa for FH6.

Rally stages through the bondu, Table Top Mountain as the focal point of the map, Cape Town as a major coastal hub. Deformable terrian would work great in this environment. And as I've said before FH hasn't visited Africa yet.

They're really saving Japan as a "break in case of emergency" huh

 

[PJTierney]

Crew Motorfest could, theoretically, do that. Its have potential install base x2 of what Horizon have. Put it into Gamepass and PS+something, make it better than TC2 here and there and thats it.

Solar Crown wouldn't be comparable in terms of available content and would, at best, scratch latest NFS numbers.

I really think that next big thing in arcade racing games could be made by Milestone. HWU was insanely good.

Will it also get 90+ on Metacritic though? I’m not sure.

Hot Wheels was good, I agree.

 

[skazz]

For me the physics of The Crew 2 and NFS just ruin the experience. Forza Horizon is pretty much the perfect simcade balance: plays wonderfully with the controller but you still need to drive like it's a car not hovercraft.

It's actually quite interesting how sim racers all fight about realism and physics, whereas arcade racers want completely different things. Horizon straddles the two camps more than any other game, which allows both camps of die hards to ridicule it. Yet it is played and loved by millions for good reason.

 

[MagpieRacer]

They're really saving Japan as a "break in case of emergency" huh

I think they're saving it to be the first next-gen only Horizon. They aren't stupid, they know people want Japan, it's heavily requested and talked about, there was even that incredibly convincing fan made map for it as well. But because they aren't stupid, they know there will be a certain level of expectation when they do finally do Japan, and I don't think that expectation can be hit with the previous gen consoles in tow. Yes I know it's easy to scale down graphical fidelity and stuff, but I'm talking actual scale, to have a big enough and dense enough map to please, with the fidelity required to really make it feel like Japan, I don't think that can be done with the last gen consoles in tow. They won't get away with relatively barren, open landscape for a 6th game.

Plus, the new Forza engine for Motorsport, is current/next gen only (as far as we know), there is a good chance the next Horizon will be too. If I was a betting man I would be putting money on the next one being Japan, current/next-gen only. I reckon the festival will then revolve around car cultures as well as racing styles; Kei, Bosozoku/Kaido, Touge, Drift, Kyusha, Bippu and maybe even Time Attack.

 

[FoxMulder]

the Forza reddits are pretty awful. People downvoting and complaining about recycling expansion content from FH1, a game that came out 10 years ago and two console generations back.

 

[Stang616]

If Porsche expansion counts then yes.
FH1: Rally Expansion and 1000 Club.
FH2: Storm Island, Fast & Furious and Porsche Expansion.
FH3: Blizzard Mountain and Hot Wheels (+ Porsche Car Pack).
FH4: Fortune Island and LEGO Speed Champions.
FH5: Hot Wheels and Rally Adventure.

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F&F for FH2 wasn't really an expansion. It was a standalone product using the FH2 engine and map.

 

[Stang616]

the Forza reddits are pretty awful. People downvoting and complaining about recycling expansion content from FH1, a game that came out 10 years ago and two console generations back.

That's pretty much all of their social media.

 

[urmie]

I don't believe in patterns much but it seems to me Forza Horizon games are in places where Xbox has some notable footing or has a little bit and they want to increase their standing there. (US, EU, AUS, UK, MEX)

Japan would be great no doubt but some of the other suggestions like Turkey, Morocco sound better if you ask me.

 

[inCloud]

Will it also get 90+ on Metacritic though? I’m not sure.

FH5 shouldn't have 90+ meta. Its lazy sequel of 88 meta FH4(well deserved). In reality it should be around 80-85 and Motorfest could be 85+ if Ivory did it right.

For me the physics of The Crew 2 and NFS just ruin the experience.

NFS is kinda strange lately. Handling model is Inconsistent, which makes it annoying at times.

Crew 2 has alright grip handling model similar to PS2 NFS titles. Its consistency make it ideal for competitive nature of game. Its little bit buggy at times(mostly when collision happens) and difference between similar vehicles could be too little. There are alot of room for improvements.

I am not sure if Motorfest could overcome Horizon 5 as Xbox title, but being only good arcade racer for PlayStation could be important. Playground should work harder.

 

[nukleabomb]

FH5 shouldn't have 90+ meta. Its lazy sequel of 88 meta FH4(well deserved). In reality it should be around 80-85 and Motorfest could be 85+ if Ivory did it right.

NFS is kinda strange lately. Handling model is Inconsistent, which makes it annoying at times.

Crew 2 has alright grip handling model similar to PS2 NFS titles. Its consistency make it ideal for competitive nature of game. Its little bit buggy at times(mostly when collision happens) and difference between similar vehicles could be too little. There are alot of room for improvements.

I am not sure if Motorfest could overcome Horizon 5 as Xbox title, but being only good arcade racer for PlayStation could be important. Playground should work harder.

Simply disagree on fh5 being mid 80s because these ratings are given out at launch and fh5 at launch is a much better game than fh4 at launch.

Motorfest and tdu have potential. I do hope they have success for both competition as well as giving those displeased with fh an alternative to enjoy (rather than begrudgingly staying in the fh ecosystem). However I think they will be stuck as a niche product that might overtake NFS (lately they've been fumbling completely with content, features and post launch support). I don't see them reaching the 10 million players of fh3 or 24 million of fh4 or 28 million of fh5. Gamepass and live service obviously play a huge role in keeping this franchise chugging along nicely on the of the solid basics that no other game seems to nail unfortunately.

 

[-Fred-]

Some of you have strangely high expectations from Ubisoft and Kylotonn, two studios that constantly over-promise and under-deliver.

 

[MagpieRacer]

Some of you have strangely high expectations from Ubisoft and Milestone, two studios that constantly over-promise and under-deliver.

Couldn't agree more. The Crew can be fun, but can equally be incredibly annoying to play and the handling is wonky. TDUSC I have absolutely no expectations from Kylotonn (not Milestone), their WRC games have been decent but nothing groundbreaking, graphically pretty average and as TDUSC is reportedly using the same engine (KT engine), I fear it is going to fall short on multiple levels.

Plus they've pretty much abandoned WRC Generations after a couple months. Doesn't bode well for post launch support on TDU.

 

[PJTierney]

FH5 shouldn't have 90+ meta.

The interesting thing with Horizon games is that they make an excellent first impression, especially to those that don't play the games daily/weekly.

The flaws and such only really begin to become clear when you get to the level of play beyond casual, or if you're a series veteran.
I have several gripes with how Forza Horizon handles multiplayer (particularly as a host of somewhat organised sessions), but that's a topic for another time.

This is a good video explaining it:



I wouldn't call Forza Horizon 5 "Oscar bait" as that's a bit mean, but it's certainly the kind of game that has a honeymoon period of 10-20 hours, which is more than enough to wow reviewers into believing it's the best driving game ever.

Personally, the series peaked at Forza Horizon 3 for me; I'm not a fan of the pivot to GaaS, but as the headline product of Xbox Game Pass it's easy to see how/why the games are now designed with that in mind.

 

[inCloud]

Simply disagree on fh5 being mid 80s because these ratings are given out at launch and fh5 at launch is a much better game than fh4 at launch.

Both were (kinda) ok for me at launch.

Some of you have strangely high expectations from Ubisoft

Things that my fellow leakers saying about TCM promising more focused and refined TC2, which sounds good. Considering how disappointing everything about FH5 are and how good latest TC2 updates my expectations for both franchises similar.

Milestone

One really good game after years of mediocre.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Some of you have strangely high expectations from Ubisoft and Milestone, two studios that constantly over-promise and under-deliver.

Things that my fellow leakers saying about TCM promising more focused and refined TC2, which sounds good. Considering how disappointing everything about FH5 are and how good latest TC2 updates my expectations for both franchises similar.

We'll believe it when we see it. For me, I'm not buying none of it, especially when TC2 still has mediocre physics that aren't satisfactory IMO. So again, I'd lower my expectations if I were you and others.

 

[-Fred-]

Couldn't agree more. The Crew can be fun, but can equally be incredibly annoying to play and the handling is wonky. TDUSC I have absolutely no expectations from Kylotonn (not Milestone), their WRC games have been decent but nothing groundbreaking, graphically pretty average and as TDUSC is reportedly using the same engine (KT engine), I fear it is going to fall short on multiple levels.

Plus they've pretty much abandoned WRC Generations after a couple months. Doesn't bode well for post launch support on TDU.

Right, Milestone does the bike games and the HotWheels game, that's my bad.

Things that my fellow leakers saying about TCM promising more focused and refined TC2, which sounds good. Considering how disappointing everything about FH5 are and how good latest TC2 updates my expectations for both franchises similar.

I've played a bit of TC2 recently out of sheer curiosity (and it was on major sale on the Xbox store) and it's a hard no for me. The physics and car handling are absolutely terrible. It feels like every vehicle weighs 10000lbs judging by the amount of air time you don't get from jumps. If TCM is indeed based on TC2, I don't expect any of those features to change, which means it won't be the game for me. They can't get the basis of driving a car down, and that's kind of a problem.

Plus you can't even remap the controller buttons so you're stuck with awkward finger positioning and muscle memory problems.

The whole bigger maps argument is moot as well since about 60, maybe even 70% of it is featureless and bland. It's mostly highways connecting the cities with the occasional backroad down in the southwest in TC2, but there's nothing memorable about any of it aside from the cities themselves. I remember the original TDU and how big the map was, but you could literally drive for 45 minutes on a straight piece of road and not see anything interesting anywhere.


There's a lot of problems with FH5, but the basis of driving a car is not one of them. It is a problem with the competing titles however.

 

[inCloud]

We'll believe it when we see it. For me, I'm not buying none of it, especially when TC2 still has mediocre physics that aren't satisfactory IMO. So again, I'd lower my expectations if I were you and others.

As I told earlier - its good for what it is.

The interesting thing with Horizon games is that they make an excellent first impression, especially to those that don't play the games daily/weekly.

Yeap, totally agree. Horizon 3/4 were better in that regard.

 

[Beebo]

What if the lightning had instead been the new Ram TRX? Would've been a bit cooler I think.

 

[breyzipp]

I’m excited about this second Rally expansion! After hot Wheels we really needed a more realistic expansion IMO. And for me in FH5 the most fun I’ve had in the game was actually racing with rally cars on dirt races in cockpit view (especially the Hoonigan Escort). Looking forward to new & returning cars like the McRae Ford Focus, Audi S1, Nissan Safari, Subaru Brat and F-150 Lightning to name a few. And it’s also a good excuse to revisit already existing rally/offroad cars in the game I haven’t used that much (like the Ultra4 Bronco RTR or the Opel Manta just to name a few).

Sure the map isn’t as sexy as the Hot Wheels one but that’s fine for me. I’m good with ”just more of Mexico” since I still think the Mexico base game map is absolutely gorgeous.

 

[FoxMulder]

Some of you have strangely high expectations from Ubisoft and Kylotonn, two studios that constantly over-promise and under-deliver.

Some people are just super thirsty for something new. Horizon’s formula may be a bit stale and has little to no real competition in the arcade genre, but it’s still pretty great and popular for a reason.

 

[VXR]

More dirt based shenanigans in a game where the off-road physics are not particularly satisfying.

Thanks, I hate it.