Gran Turismo 4 / PSP Courses found in Gran Turismo 5

j0nny0093 · Jul 28, 2019

jaytmtb
So in 10 years time, will we will find out that Gran Turismo Sport has every track, just sayin'

Maybe

Anyway regarding GT5, that's the best way to celebrate the 10th anniversary.

Nielsen · Jul 28, 2019

GT6 was lucky these tracks weren't discovered during GT5's prime.

George Jakob · Jul 28, 2019

Nielsen
GT6 was lucky these tracks weren't discovered during GT5's prime.

Famine · Jul 28, 2019

SuperMegaGeek
Pikes Peak is in Dirt Rally so not sure how exclusive that licence is unless I'm missing something?

You're missing about two years of the timeline.

LeGeNd-1 · Jul 29, 2019

Thom Lee
Last update for Today. 12 working hidden tracks left. Unfortunately the other hidden tracks do not work as you can see here: https://tcrf.net/Gran_Turismo_5/Courses/Course_Database

Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but any sign of the Las Vegas drag strip? It's not listed on tcrf's page.

RandomCarGuy17
Wait, PD was still labeling Swiss Alps as Smokey Mountain South in their track data?! I figured they would've updated that by the time they were working on GT5.

Probably because they ARE the same track, with a few minor layout adjustments: https://gran-turismo.fandom.com/wiki/Smokey_Mountain_South

RandomCarGuy17 · Jul 29, 2019

LeGeNd-1
Probably because they ARE the same track

I know they're the same track (I've known that for years), that wasn't my point.
My point was that I assumed they would've updated the file names at least, but here; it seems they still kept it the same as when they were developing Gran Turismo 3.

elston87 · Jul 29, 2019

LeGeNd-1
Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but any sign of the Las Vegas drag strip? It's not listed on tcrf's page.

It's not in the game. The only leftover remaining is the logo.

On another note, all of these courses and their associated data is in Gran Turismo 6 as well, but the game refuses to load them. There isn't a way to accomplish this...yet, but if later versions of Gran Turismo 5 refuse to load these courses, then I doubt that Gran Turismo 6 will be able to as well.

LeGeNd-1 · Jul 29, 2019

RandomCarGuy17
I know they're the same track (I've known that for years), that wasn't my point.
My point was that I assumed they would've updated the file names at least, but here; it seems they still kept it the same as when they were developing Gran Turismo 3.

From my simplistic modding experience, if GT's file structure is anything like rFactor/ISImotor, it probably would've been easier to keep the file names because you wouldn't have to change every string of text in the game code that mentions "smokey_mt_south". As long as it appears as Swiss Alps in the user UI, that's probably enough. After all, we aren't supposed to be looking at these game files...

Then again, they still have traces of Pikes Peak from PS1 on a PS3 game, so obviously PD isn't the type who likes to keep things organised. Remember also the Mine's Skyline Autoart saga? :lol:

juanffy18 · Jul 29, 2019

I need all of those tracks in GT7

j0nny0093 · Jul 29, 2019

LeGeNd-1
Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but any sign of the Las Vegas drag strip? It's not listed on tcrf's page.

elston87
It's not in the game. The only leftover remaining is the logo.

On another note, all of these courses and their associated data is in Gran Turismo 6 as well, but the game refuses to load them. There isn't a way to accomplish this...yet, but if later versions of Gran Turismo 5 refuse to load these courses, then I doubt that Gran Turismo 6 will be able to as well.

Al elston87 said, it's a leftover track like in Gran Turismo PSP , in that case however there are also picture and menu map as I posted on the tcrf page.

EDIT: Here the leftover in the PSP version.

It could've been possible that the picture could've look exactly like this, since many unused tracks share the same pic (Hong Kong, Città di Aria, Infineon , Opera De Paris , Circuit De La Sarthe, El Capitan)

Also exactly, all these unused circuits are in Gran Turismo 6 but they doesn't work for now. Maybe we need to find some other way to load them, anyway it's hard to say if they could work.

silicon1138 · Jul 29, 2019

To be honest i've been enjoying so many of these recently anyway using OpenEmu running GTPSP (i do own the original) on my MacBook Air. I runs really nicely. I've also had the same running on my Mac Mini over HDMI onto my big tv and a gamepad. It's such a great track selection in GTPSP. Just a pain about how they did the car dealerships.

pez2k · Jul 29, 2019

LeGeNd-1
From my simplistic modding experience, if GT's file structure is anything like rFactor/ISImotor, it probably would've been easier to keep the file names because you wouldn't have to change every string of text in the game code that mentions "smokey_mt_south".

Fortunately, the text IDs aren't really used anywhere - there are tables that map a text ID to a hexadecimal ID, and the latter is what is used to cross-reference the course. In GT2 and GT3 at least, these IDs were still hashes of the text ID though (by convention).

isiMotor exposes the human-readable names in order to make things more moddable, which is not a luxury found in GT.

juanffy18 · Jul 29, 2019

New York rain, Complex string, Seattle...i need those of all circuits badly.

How boring seems the Original circuits from GT Sport compared with the others from the past GT´s

J24681357 · Jul 31, 2019

I recently got these hidden tracks working on my CFW PS3, and I love every single bit of it.

Paiky · Jul 31, 2019

I try tomorrow (Thursday in Germany) to upload a new video. This time all hidden tracks in one video and recorded with a real PS3 via elgato HD60S. The clips then have a much better frame rate, less graphic errors, less crashes and the ability to drive against AI's compare to RPCS3.

I have only the problem that the PS3 has a HDCP lock. To unhinge this, you need a HDMI splitter. I have bought this and it should arrive today.

j0nny0093 · Jul 31, 2019

The fun thing about these circuit is that they could be used for license too. I think the game set a starting line at certain distance from start/finish, so that's why it works.

Tyger · Jul 31, 2019

Is the Discord server still up? I haven't used Discord a lot, might be missing how to search for it/request an invite.

Whistle Snap · Aug 1, 2019

Can I get Discord invite too? When I search nothing shows up.

j0nny0093 · Aug 2, 2019

Yesterday I did some other tests, especially license test swap. The first thing I noticed is that Pikes Peak hasn't enough space at the starting line: any license event that starts in the middle of the track will place you on the circuit.

Still, pikes peak has a weird physics, the car doesn't have any grip at all.

I did the same with Fuji Speedway 90 (fisco_ps2) and the game didn't crash/freeze... until I drove in reverse to reach the starting line, where my game freeze.

We don't know what's the real problem here, anyway there's something in 1Player mode (time trial, drift, race) that break the game near the starting line. This doesn't happen in 2players mode for some reason, even tho the track has the same identical model in 2players.

Paiky · Aug 2, 2019

A new (nearly 2 1/2 hours long) video is coming!

All hidden tracks in one video. This time the recordings come directly from a real PS3 instead as before with RPCS3. That means better frame rate, no stuttering, no audio interference, no glitchy graphics, (mostly) no random freezes and AI races!

In the video description you will find the timestamps of each track.

At the Same time, i will unlist all my previous videos. The videos will no longer appear on my YT channel but no worry, you can still watch the videos if you open the URL links of the videos. In the spoiler area you will find all the links again

Last but not least I want to record one last video about GT5 Hidden Tracks. If you create a replay for example of the finished Laguna Seca, you can play this replay on the hidden Laguna Seca too. So you can compare quite well the finished with the hidden tracks. I will compare tracks like Nordschleife_ps2 and Nordschleife_PS3 and load them on youtube as well.

GTV0819 · Aug 3, 2019

Nielsen
GT6 was lucky these tracks weren't discovered during GT5's prime.

What would have happened if it went the other way?

TonyJZX · Aug 9, 2019

I sort of feel like that even if this was found out say in 2014 the arcane way that this is loaded would have made it a nonstarter for most people anyway.

MOPARbarrett5 · Aug 15, 2019

These findings are really awesome. I've found videos on how to do this for yourselves, but I don't know if the videos are allowed to be directly posted to GTPlanet, so I have a link in my Signature to a video with links to the original tutorial videos.

elston87 · Sep 21, 2019

I never thought I'd be updating this thread again, but:

Hong Kong (GT4):

With the assistance of a fellow individual (who has chosen to remain anonymous), this course was able to load in the game! Hong Kong seems to be thriving and lively in the world of Gran Turismo 5, at least, with a few construction projects going on. There's some missing barriers, textures, light fixtures, and other things.

Apart from the aforementioned, this course is fully functional, AI cars driving on the course, sectors, collision, what have you. Another one down, perhaps there's even more courses to be found?

j0nny0093 · Sep 23, 2019

Here's a race on Hong Kong circuit, offscreen video (I don't have a game capture)

Also, I took some screenshot out of bounds for Route X, sadly we can't drive more since there are no collision and the car will be respawned on track.

Hdbd04 · Sep 23, 2019

"END OF CAN'T"

Why was this even here?

j0nny0093 · Sep 23, 2019

Here some more pics, it's hard to use a track to get a good pic of the bridge

Tim Voak · Sep 23, 2019

j0nny0093
Here some more pics, it's hard to use a track to get a good pic of the bridge

Holy Cow! Nice pics! I've always tried to see the track from high angle like this, doing some crazy things. I also wonder what the top of the last banked corner looks like, is it concrete or covered in grass? Looks like it may be grass.

Populuxe · Sep 23, 2019

Hdbd04
Why was this even here?

They say high ground effects cars (like F1 and Indy) generate so much downforce, you can drive them upside down. That might have been created to actually try it. And dang I want to drive those sections so much.

pez2k · Sep 23, 2019

Hdbd04
Why was this even here?

It's not end of can't, it's end of cant, as in the end of the canted (banked) section of track, warning drivers that they're going to run out of road if they stay up high.

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