[Gran Turismo 5 @ E3 2010] (SEE POST 1!: New Vids, Pics, Interviews!)

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The time for the Sony press conference at the first page is wrong. It will be half an hour later. For example, GameTrailers lists it here: Link
 
Those of you that want to live in the 90s and stick to playing the game on a joypad and hey possibly on a retro SDTV with poor sound are welcome to. I however feel that the actual experience with the same game and features wont offer the same experience to how its being developed in getting the total enjoyment the game can fully offer.

This is like turning up on a trackday with a brandnew Ferrari where everybody has enormous fun with all sorts of cars including humble Fiats and Fords and saying this track can only be fully enjoyed driving that brandnew Ferrari.

Sure, all those who drive those Fiats and Fords would love to be able to choose a Ferrari to drive around the same track, that doesn't take away the fact that the track has the same layout for everyone and is designed to be driven ( and having fun ) by all sorts of cars ( and yes, the most optimal experience is probably had driving that Ferrari ).

I know that PS3 games are intended ( and designed ) to be played on a HD TV ( which I've recently upgraded to and the difference is huge ) and the best possible sound is offered by a high-end home cinema set ( I do have a home cinema set, just not a high-end one ).
The point you make is a rather obvious one, better equipment equals a more pleasurable experience ( duh! ).
But since the simple fact this is not an option for a lot of people seems to escape you and the apparant need to make snobbish remarks about this fact says it all I suppose.
 
If we assume that work started after GT4 launched in December 2004, and GT5 launches this year, it will have been 5.5 - 6 years in the making. If you include GT5P and GTPSP into the mix, that's three games in 6 years, making it 1 game every 2 years. Not bad, apart from it's not all about averages is it?!

Everyone seems to forget the fantastic game (IMO) Tourist Trophy that came after GT4.
 
The time for the Sony press conference at the first page is wrong. It will be half an hour later. For example, GameTrailers lists it here: Link

No The official time for the conference is in the first page. GameTrailers are wrong
 
Jay
Everyone seems to forget the fantastic game (IMO) Tourist Trophy that came after GT4.

Yep, although it was regarded as a side-project with limited resources and a strict deadline, hell even with those limitations ( and therefore limited content ) it was a fantastic game and hopefully a sequal will appear using GT5's game engine. :)
 
Jay
Everyone seems to forget the fantastic game (IMO) Tourist Trophy that came after GT4.
Analog pretty much said it right there! It was a fantastic game, but hardly a drain on resources.
 
This is like turning up on a trackday with......

The point you make is a rather obvious one, better equipment equals a more pleasurable experience ( duh! ).
But since the simple fact this is not an option for a lot of people seems to escape you and the apparant need to make snobbish remarks about this fact says it all I suppose.

Firstly its nothing like your trackday comments.
You nail it on the head in that having the appropiate hardware the game supports then gives the player the ability to get further or perhaps the best possible enjoyment out of it and with new hardware comes the possibility of a new level of entertainment.

So to me hardware support and the inclusion of new technologies is quite an important factor to how some may be able to form an opinion on the game based on how people can enjoy it.

Snobbish remarks nothing, excuse me I was pointing out that not just gameplay features alone make an impact to determine if a game may or could be genre defining. Hardware like how a game is created/coded go hand in hand with each other. Without the hardware the features couldnt be added so if anything in many ways without new hardware games would not of changed much over the last two decades.

If people on GTP and in this thread can continually remark on what is or is not a gimmick feature yet they have no way to back up their claims I dont see why people should be criticised if they have optimisim for such new features/hardware support. Therefore I wont criticise a player that wants to play the game how they want but they perhaps shouldnt criticise people that are interested in playing it in the best ways possible neither.

As for 3D well E3 is going to have masses of 3D talk and Sony it seems will be bringing 3D to all their major franchises and other games companies are doing the same. I guess those that have an issue with it are really going to be fed up listening about it over the coming months/year.
 
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The quality of posts in this thread are drastically slipping, keep it on topic guys. If there's nothing worth discussing about E3 right now, then don't discuss anything, simple!

Thank you. I enjoy seeing other members stepping up and cracking whips. In this thread, we're not discussing TDU2, Forza 6 or Shift II or Tourist Trophy 12.

Hey true that! And last year's E3 was mainly focused on GTPSP anyway.. So that would pretty much explain why there was such limited information on GT5.

Woo hoo! Finally, GT5 has no other GT titles to compete with. I am still expecting a release date. Not hope. I EXPECT it to be revealed at E3, along with at least a 2 minute trailer and a demo.
 
SRD Im with you on at least being enthusiastic, optomistic, hopeful, wishful, excited and building my eagerness to see what Sony have in store for us.
 
SRD Im with you on at least being enthusiastic, optomistic, hopeful, wishful, excited and building my eagerness to see what Sony have in store for us.

In my head, I have an ideal E3 already imagined that would very enthusiastic, optomistic, hopeful, wishful, etc. But I won't post it here just yet.

But to think we'll get a release date is not at all farfetched. Not even close. It seems more odd to think it wouldn't be revealed there. A big stage. 1/2 the year has gone. There's no hype for the game. It's the perfect platform.

Now for the pessimism: If there is no date, that is not a good thing.
 
if there is no date Gt5 wont release this year.
 
Analog pretty much said it right there! It was a fantastic game, but hardly a drain on resources.

Just as much a drain as GT PSP IMO which was mentioned multiple times. The bikes which are quite detailed still take resonable resources, along with the extra track and few track modifications and physics changes.
 
Jay
Just as much a drain as GT PSP IMO which was mentioned multiple times. The bikes which are quite detailed still take resonable resources, along with the extra track and few track modifications and physics changes.
My point exactly, and the whole thing only took 10 months.
 
My point exactly, and the whole thing only took 10 months.

Exactly, 10 months that eats in to development of other titles (GT), which is a drain on resources.

I doubt GT PSP took any longer actual development time, rather than development being delayed for long periods of time (as Kaz has stated in interviews).
 
Approximately a week before E3 yeah so whys it so important to discuss once again whats been covered many times before on the forums what did/didnt delay the game?
 
if there is no date Gt5 wont release this year.

quote, and the date will be announced at tokyo GS 2010 and will be march 2011:crazy:

and again will be posticipated.. no this no...:sly:
 
if there is no date Gt5 wont release this year.

that is probably right, or the arse-end of the year at best..

the date is the key really, isnt it? sod a video, its GT, we know what it is and we know what it does - we are all getting it so number of cars / tracks it immaterial, we can wait till we play though ourselves to figure all that out.

just a date
 
One week.. this is the final week. I'm getting more excited by the day. I bet KY and his bored translator are probably already in LA as we speak or on their way. I feel a really cool trailer on the way.
 
Regarding the release date: If they announce a release date within the next 2 or 3 months, it would suggest they really are polishing up and getting ready to bring the game out, and we'll probably have it in our hands when they promise.

However, if they say they say November or December, I wouldn't be at all surprised if it gets pushed into 2011.
 
People still doubt we will see a release date at E3?

I mean, c´mon guys, this year the scenario is different. It´s not like 2007, 2008 or 2009.

We had a release date for japan, we have a number of promotions for "Gran Turismo 5" and we had executives confirming the game will ship this year. It will be at E3 and it will have something substantial.

There´s no need for fear this time:tup:
 
People still doubt we will see a release date at E3?

I mean, c´mon guys, this year the scenario is different. It´s not like 2007, 2008 or 2009.

We had a release date for japan, we have a number of promotions for "Gran Turismo 5" and we had executives confirming the game will ship this year. It will be at E3 and it will have something substantial.

There´s no need for fear this time:tup:

your words are soothing, but even if we know its this year we have to zoom-in a little and start worrying about what month it will be, 3 months is a lifetime when you are counting days
 
Jay
Exactly, 10 months that eats in to development of other titles (GT), which is a drain on resources.

I doubt GT PSP took any longer actual development time, rather than development being delayed for long periods of time (as Kaz has stated in interviews).
Well, I never said it was not a drain, I just downplayed it a bit! You are right, of course, but the drain is not much of one relative to the effort that has gone into GT5.

I'm sure there are lots of reasons why each game took as long as it did, with development conflicts and whatnot. It's largely irrelevant now now though - not long to wait :)

Approximately a week before E3 yeah so whys it so important to discuss once again whats been covered many times before on the forums what did/didnt delay the game?
If you have a problem with the way the discussion is going yeah, report it, because right now your authority around here is zero.
 
That was a weird deal. SONY Japan basically lied to the rest of the SONY regional divisions in order to torpedo sales of FM3. It might have worked, might not, but it did irritate the fans a lot. I've never been able to figure them out, like forcing Kaz to produce GT PSP first. Like, WTH? But you'll have to take that up with them, as if it would do any good. Japan is Japan, and the rest of us are barbarians to the old suits.

Is this just a theory? I'm genuinely curious as to where that was said. As for PSP being made first... it did make sense, really. It was promised ages ago and being such a big title for Sony, spreading some of GT's sales numbers to the PSP made sense. That and it was hardly a new game, anyways. Not like they were starting from scratch. If they had waited until GT5 was done who knows how many years later it would've been.


Hmm... I know people try and make a case that Forza is just as flakey as GT, but you'll have to point me to board riots similar to the ones at the Forza boards. And keep in mind that the official boards are as controlled as the country of North Korea, where you can be banned on a whim.

Well the first problem there is ever going to an official board! ;). I was around the gt.com boards since GT1, and yes, there was quite a bit of hysteria when peoples garages started vanishing.

Let me guess, you haven't played FM1 so you can't recall being ganged up on by the bots in FM1 to crush your car, or one of them deliberately park in the shadows of Sunset Speedway so you would wreck into it. I saved replays. ;)

Played it. While that was annoying as hell, it wasn't their only mode of action. Compare this to GT4 AI which always, ALWAYS does the same thing on a track. GT PSP's is better, but still far from perfect. Did you ever have an entire garage randomly disappear just because you wanted to test your 400M time?

I know a handful of people whine about the tire sounds in GT games. I suppose you could complain that everything whines like a midsized car. However, in FM2 and 3, it's the only time I've heard a Miata sound like it had truck tires. The thing that baffles me is why they changed the sounds from FM1, which were pretty darn nice. Maybe they were too close to Gran Turismo's. Meanwhile, I've routinely heard tire screeches very much like GT4's outside my windows, as I live next to a rather treacherous intersection - at least because of the way the kids drive these days, and it covers everything from small sporties to an occasional Buick, go figure.

Handful? Yeah... I never knew why Forza changed theirs either. First game's had the most realistic sound out of both series, imo.

Frankly, I think it blows, and more people around the planet share my view, because it bombed badly. The game is absolutely nothing, and I mean nothing, like the demo video. It got me excited. Then I tried the game, and tried, and tried, and got very angry. It drives nothing like any racing game, and I don't mean because it's nore realistic. I really appreciate the fact that tires don't begin their whispering "whine" until I'm on my way off the track. Oh wait, no I don't.

What, no way, the majority of people at a board centred on one particular series don't like another one more? Shock! I guess you never played it with a wheel.

So... you hate GT2, but you love it more?? I'm confused. ;)

Reading comprehension? Never said that. I hate all the flaws in GT2, but the only super-obvious advantage 3 had was graphics. Only slightly improved physics weren't enough to make up for everything else we lost. The only reason I played GT3 so long was mk's hybrid program; that's not PD's work, heh.

The bold part reminds me of real life racing. You'll have to clarify. For the rest... wut? For someone who you seem to accuse of being a graphics junkie, you're ignoring how much I remark about the feeeeeeeeeeeeel of a game. Oh well.

Woops, I may be mixing you all up with such similar avatars, haha, my bad. Honest :)

Uhm... *shakes head*

In any case, you can stop whining about online. Last time I checked, Prologue did offer online functionality. Just a head's up.

Because it's almost inexcusable to not have it at this point.

Well... that's a whopping two "broken" promises. But you're right, and the way Polyphony has treated their fans has driven millions of them to other game... well, maybe not... I mean, seeing as most racing fans have more than GT in their game list. I do, of course they mostly gather dust right now...

Frankly, I think you're making points that matter to no one but you and a handful of malcontents who like to complain out of habit. Like I say, PC sim fans are happy to tinker with their handful of cars while they wait for their semi-annual rebadge of practically the same game, and diehard Forza fanz glom onto every iteration of this short lived franchise - however, there are a lot of pitchforks raised in the ranks of Forza gamers, and those are brave souls, let me tell you.

It matters to the people who don't blindly ignore the trend of over-promising PD has. Let's find the interviews from last year where KY said the game was "90% finished", or "we can release any time we want". Broken promises aren't limited to just game features. Maybe it's because you haven't been around long enough to notice the pattern. I don't know. Forza, short-lived? It is the Xbox equivalent of GT, I don't see why they'd cut it off anytime soon.

That Forza is as buggy as Windoze? Or that the 360 for two years had a nearly 70% failure rate? Sorry, I'm not seeing a similarity here...

You're one of those people who thinks their being clever typing M$, right? Though to be fair, I didn't know you were referencing the X360 itself in that comment I quoted. I read it all as exclusively about Forza. So if it's a Yugo... at least it actually *is* released. If we're comparing them to cars, GT has been the sketch the car company shows off... for years ;).

Yep, they reward me with a shiny new copy of Gran Turismo at retail price when the game gets stamped into platters and stuck in little plastic boxes. You got me there. :D

You "all things being equal" guys really are funny. Especially when your last remark, the one I blotted out referring to "time management", has nothing whatsoever to do with your entire rant. Because all things aren't equal. And when every game gets released, the sales pretty much say the last word on the subject. So, rather than grouse about past games and laying it by fiat on GT5, watch the E3 presentation and give us your pearls of wisdom. It's only eight days off, hardly a small eternity. Buy the game - like I will - and get back to us on it.

Going by this argument, that sales = greatness, the Camry is the best car in the world, whichever pop queen is biggest this year is the greatest singer. It's flawed logic. You blotted it out despite it actually having everything to do with the rant; you're still missing my point that I am a GT fan. Like I said, it paid for my tuition, it's the reason I buy systems. It doesn't mean I can't be critical of poor decisions. If you live life under the idea that liking something means being unquestionably optimistic and positive about it, no matter what, then you have a problem.

I'm waiting on E3, and what I can only assume will be the last announced release date. Realize I'm not someone like eastley who's coming in just to wind people up. I want the game to be good, but I also recognize the past faults, in GT and PD in general. Something a lot of you people with blinkers on can't.
 
Well weve been warned to keep it on topic....
Im wondering whats likely to come first this thread getting locked again or E3...
 
People still doubt we will see a release date at E3?

I mean, c´mon guys, this year the scenario is different. It´s not like 2007, 2008 or 2009.

We had a release date for japan, we have a number of promotions for "Gran Turismo 5" and we had executives confirming the game will ship this year. It will be at E3 and it will have something substantial.

There´s no need for fear this time:tup:

Yea, it's pretty much guaranteed. If they could give us a release date in September, I am sure 9 months later they can give an accurate, final one.
 
Agree I see nothing to support the idea that E3 this year will be like previous years...
Its the opposite...

Though I still see a mid-late summer release as possible...
GT PSP got a release date last year at the E3 show so why wont GT5 get one this year?
 
Yea, it's pretty much guaranteed. If they could give us a release date in September, I am sure 9 months later they can give an accurate, final one.

Andrew House said they will be revealing the release date soon and i trust him
 
Andrew House said they will be revealing the release date soon and i trust him

To support this even further:

The first release date was given out when the game was 65% complete. It was given at a time when damage was only 2 months old, and was still very much a work in progress. But the date didn't last. Now, considering the game was about 90% done in January, you'd have to expect that they could provide us with a final release date. At this point, the game is likely 95% done (if his 90% comment was true). Or in the best case scenario, the game is complete.
 
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Im so excited, it's only a week away!!!

I'm confident we see a release date and hopefully it's not too far away, i want to play it so badly! :D
 
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