Gran Turismo 7 1.59 Update Now Available

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It seems that the GT7 game update procedure comes to an end without any serious structural update....
Maybe some good news about an 'upgraded' GT8 release with much more content is in near future...
As for May update i like Ferrari and Corvette and i will test other two cars to have an opinion...
 
I don't get all the obsession with GT3 cars. The game, as a whole, isn't GT3 centric so why would it be a priority to have many (some? lol) current GT3 cars? I enjoy the wide variety of different race cars that PD introduces into the game, even if at times they are super head scratchers in their methods (i.e. only two "official" DTM cars, but from vastly different time periods so impossible to race together)
 
As much as I would enjoy a 720S GT3, as previously noted any new GT3/Gr.3 would just replace an existing one, and its performance would be dictated by the one-size-fits-all BOP. Most will drive and sound very, very similarly, and little would change except knowing that you're in a newer (but still at least two years out of date) car.
I wonder what the new geometric square photo option is exactly. There already is a 1:1 option right?
Yes, which is both how and why I posed the shots a few posts ago.

These curations are just special "versions" of the same location with limits imposed.
 
I don't get all the obsession with GT3 cars. The game, as a whole, isn't GT3 centric so why would it be a priority to have many (some? lol) current GT3 cars? I enjoy the wide variety of different race cars that PD introduces into the game, even if at times they are super head scratchers in their methods (i.e. only two "official" DTM cars, but from vastly different time periods so impossible to race together)
A tough nut to crack. Really can’t wrap my head around that one. Why would people want a modern-ish race car in their racing game? Makes no sense to me. Zero.
 
As much as I would enjoy a 720S GT3, as previously noted any new GT3/Gr.3 would just replace an existing one, and its performance would be dictated by the one-size-fits-all BOP. Most will drive and sound very, very similarly, and little would change except knowing that you're in a newer (but still at least two years out of date) car.

Yes, which is both how and why I posed the shots a few posts ago.

These curations are just special "versions" of the same location with limits imposed.
One new gr3 car would not be enough.
The problem is that most of Gr cars are inherited from the GT Sport with only a few additions. People are force to do dailies in the same bunch of cars for 8 years now. It feels like Gran Turismo stagnated little bit
 
I kinda feel like @Famine just destroyed that whole GT3/Gr.3 argument/discussion. Are you REALLY going to be able to notice the difference between the old cars and new cars. Honestly, I'm shocked PD hasn't tried to pull one over and just copy & paste the new bodies over the old cars.
 
When was the last time we had an update comprised entirely of Brand Central Vehicles?
 
It's just good not having to wait and especially buying an older car when you want to buy it.

Edit: ...and another thing. That update thumbnail looks like someone has a real life fun garage.
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I kinda feel like @Famine just destroyed that whole GT3/Gr.3 argument/discussion. Are you REALLY going to be able to notice the difference between the old cars and new cars. Honestly, I'm shocked PD hasn't tried to pull one over and just copy & paste the new bodies over the old cars.
How does that only apply to GT3s and not basically every car in the game?

I think this is complete nonsense tbh.
 
Because it only works on those race cars. It doesn't apply to all other cars in the game.
My E30 drives different to my E30 SE. Especially when I tune them. They do have the same characteristics, but the difference in engine displacement, wheel size and aero differentiate both cars.

For the casual not-to-enthusiastic about cars like a normal car nut, might not know the difference in performance of an E30 versus an E46. So, it's possible PD could do such things to race cars and players not know it's a new body on an old chassis.
 
Because it only works on those race cars. It doesn't apply to all other cars in the game.
My E30 drives different to my E30 SE. Especially when I tune them. They do have the same characteristics, but the difference in engine displacement, wheel size and aero differentiate both cars.

For the casual not-to-enthusiastic about cars like a normal car nut, might not know the difference in performance of an E30 versus an E46. So, it's possible PD could do such things to race cars and players not know it's a new body on an old chassis.
Fair enough
 
While I highly doubt that the 812 and the CR-V will get engine swaps, I definitely think the C5 and Carry will. Specifically, I bet the former will get the C7 ZR1 engine just like all the other Corvettes sans the C6 ZR1. Meanwhile, I think the Carry could get the K14C from the Swift, as the kei-spec Jimny got it.

Of course, a multitude of engines have gone into other kei cars, like the 13B rotary as well as the K20 from the Civic Type R, so who knows? Plus I don’t recall there being an update where we got less than a quintet of swaps, so I wonder what the other three (or more) could be.
 
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How does that only apply to GT3s and not basically every car in the game?

I think this is complete nonsense tbh.
Because Basically Every Car in the game is not a direct 1:1 replacement of another one, nor does it get pummelled into BOP to define its performance (Edit: in "relevant" offline events and all online events).

The 812 is about as close as it gets in this update; it's close enough to the F12berlinetta that you could argue it's a facelift. A lot's gone into it to update it, to the point you might not notice it's based on fundamentally the same platform - and it's rather different to drive (I'm told; only F-car I've driven is the 488GTB). Otherwise you have three entirely new driving experiences, even if the CR-V isn't necessarily one you'd want to have more than several others.

Any current GT3 car is just a replacement of one we already have. The most different would be the 720S GT3, and that's still pretty similar to the 650S we have already. Otherwise you have the V6 296 instead of the V8 458, and the rear-engined 99x GT3 R instead of the mid-engined (and GTE) RSR, and almost everything else is basically the same size*, layout†, and engine configuration.

For example, if we get the new Mustang GT3, it'll supplant the Gr.3 we already have. Then it'll get BOPped and slot right into the pecking order that the old one occupied (the old one will be BOPped into oblivion at the same time). It'll probably drive quite like the also FR old one, sound quite like the V8 old one, and other than knowing you're in the newer car it'll be quite like driving the old one - and when it's stickered up in your favourite Red Bull/Monster Energy livery it won't even look that different. People who drive cockpit or in VR2 will appreciate the cabin differences, it should be said‡.

There are actually surprisingly few new GT3 cars, as they're largely Evo models. The newer Vantage is the only other obvious one, which we don't have on that platform (but again FR V8 replaces FR V12, so almost aesthetic), that I can think of under current homologation after the above that's "new" new. Off the top of my head, everything else is an Evo, so really it's six actually new cars - mostly very similar to ones we already have. And the Bentley Continental which we don't have (oddly, given GT Academy drivers' successes in it) and that won't move the GTWS needle without a Gr.4, not that we have the brand in the game at all.

And even older GT3s under current homologation can, for example, take pole position at the Spa 6hr:

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Oooh, spooky.

Personally, I don't think we'll ever see another new GT3 or Gr.3 unless another manufacturer - and particularly one which doesn't have any GT3 car - comes on board as a sponsor or has a VGT, and I think that PD is happy with its 27 different brands and... what... 50 cars in the class?

And again, I'd definitely swap to McLaren for a season just to try the 720S if it arrived, but I'll drive the Carry further tomorrow alone than any of the six or seven new-to-GT7 Gr.3 cars combined. Except the Suzuki, which I tried for the Human Comedy 1hr race at Maggiore and found hilarious. And which is BOPped into oblivion.


* The M4 GT3 is only about an inch narrower than the memetastically enormous M6, and about four inches shorter
† Except the Z06 GT3.R, and boy are we never getting that one.
‡ As a fun experiment I'd like to see how many people could be shoved blind into any Gr.3 in bumper cam and say for sure which one it is within a lap. It'd also be fun to do that with any other car too.
 
I don't get all the obsession with GT3 cars. The game, as a whole, isn't GT3 centric so why would it be a priority to have many (some? lol) current GT3 cars? I enjoy the wide variety of different race cars that PD introduces into the game, even if at times they are super head scratchers in their methods (i.e. only two "official" DTM cars, but from vastly different time periods so impossible to race together)
Because we're car enthusiasts. Generational differences, drivetrain layouts, features etc. mean a lot to many of us. True car nerds sweat the details.

Gr3s comprise a LOT of sport mode and championship races. It's completely reasonable for motorsport enthusiasts to want the most recent and relevant versions of the cars they love represented in the game they love. There are many differences between a 458 and a 296 (in fact, a multi-generational skip from NA V8 to Turbo V8, then to an all-new chassis with a turbo-hybrid-V6)... and we can tell.
I kinda feel like @Famine just destroyed that whole GT3/Gr.3 argument/discussion. Are you REALLY going to be able to notice the difference between the old cars and new cars. Honestly, I'm shocked PD hasn't tried to pull one over and just copy & paste the new bodies over the old cars.
No, he didn't. He gave his opinion. An opinion that varies wildly from many of us here. Him not being able to tell the difference between cars isn't relevant to those of us who would be able to. He speaks only of his viewpoint, and that viewpoint is not representative of many others. His argument of "same-chassis" can be completely invalidated by my example above. The Ferrari 458 in GT7 now, and the 296 that exists today share nothing. And that's just one of many examples.
How does that only apply to GT3s and not basically every car in the game?

I think this is complete nonsense tbh.
Precisely. It is crazy that anyone, especially in here, would expect so many hardcore automotive enthusiasts to not care about having the latest metal represented where we can "get our hands" on them. I mean, why read a new issue of Road & Track? They're all the same, right? Why watch a race tomorrow, it's been done before! Hahaha. Noooonsense.

I think I speak for many others here when I say I live cars. I have a fulfilling life filled with many pursuits, but my obsession and love of cars has been a constant that has never waned. I think this is true for many of you reading this comment. I love a Kangoo, or a Civic, or a Focus as much as a Corvette Z06, or an FD RX7, or Aston Valkyrie... and everything in between. I love cars.

Hell, I spent like, 3 hours the other night making a realistic beater Honda Civic livery, and I love it.

To tell me and these other car lovers, people that devour the latest news, follow manufacturer trends, listen to and watch automotive content, root on our favorite drivers and stay up late to watch our favorite race series, build and drive and race and run laps in Gt7 and enjoy our own real cars that we "shouldn't care about new race cars 'cuz they're all the same" is just... ridiculous on many levels.

At the end of it, the lack of these new racers isn't going to make or break my love of GT7, but don't for a second think that wanting them is anything other than a completely founded argument.
 
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Him not being able to tell the difference between cars isn't relevant to those of us who would be able to.
That's not... quite the point I made.
To tell me and these other car lovers, people that devour the latest news, follow manufacturer trends, listen to and watch automotive content, root on our favorite drivers and stay up late to watch our favorite race series, build and drive and race and enjoy our own real cars that we "shouldn't care about new race cars 'cuz they're all the same" is just... ridiculous on many levels.
Nor is that.


As a fun aside, when I did the last GTWS Nations Cup race recently - which was an effective M6 GT3 Sprint (not even M6 GT3, but Sprint specifically) one-make - about a third of the grid had black decals on the nose in the shape of the M4 GT3's "kidneys" :lol:
 
I wonder if the reason there's no event for the Honda is because they are planning on having a special event for it in the weekly challenge🤔 Just a thought.
 
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I wonder if the reason there's no event for the Honda is because they are planning on having a special event for it in the weekly challenge🤔 Just a thought.
Could be a special event for the CUVs. Leaving out the Urus.
 
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