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Best case scenario holiday 2025. Which it means 3.5/4 years of development.
Worst case scenario holiday 2026. Which means 4.5/5 years of development.
Generally the previous game stop being supported at least a year before the release of the successor, which means that GT7 will be stopping to be updated (with new content and improvements) in Christmas 2024 (in worst case scenario), while in best case scenario even in late 2025, if we are lucky. I don't see GT7 being stopping to be updated before the very late 2024, or first or even second half of 2025, I mean in regards to content updates, at least. Do you agree?
 
Generally the previous game stop being supported at least a year before the release of the successor, which means that GT7 will be stopping to be updated (with new content and improvements) in Christmas 2024 (in worst case scenario), while in best case scenario even in late 2025, if we are lucky. I don't see GT7 being stopping to be updated before the very late 2024, or first or even second half of 2025, I mean in regards to content updates, at least. Do you agree?
Their focus from now on will be the online again to convince the FIA to come back in the partnership. Soon they will start the new season and they want to do more live events. Yamauchi said that 2023 season will be rhe biggest in GT history.
 
A twitter post from september, since update will roll out soon enough and it's been such a while...
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"Beloved GT cars"? what can come into your minds? For me it's classic GT1/LMP cars, like Nissan R390 and Toyota TS020 as well as classic JGTC cars, like Honda NSX Castrol '00, RE Amemiya GT300 '06 and such. And some road japanese cars, like the legendary Daihatsu Midget II D-Type '98 and other standard cars


And then there is a database from one infamous thread, which can be a good source, since we got a cars from it (red means already in a game):

  • BMW 2002 TII '75 (2002_TII_75_A)
  • BMW 2002 Turbo '74 (2002_TURBO_74_A)
  • Ferrari 430 Scuderia '07 (430_SCUDERIA_07_A)
  • Mercedes Benz 500 E '91 (500E_91_A)
  • Ferrari 812 Superfast '19 (812_SUPERFAST_19_A)
  • Porsche 904 Carrera GTS '64 (904_CARRERA_GTS_64_A)
  • Porsche 911 Turbo S Leichtbau (964) '93 (911_TURBO_S_93_A)
  • Porsche 918 Spyder '13 (918_SPYDER_13_A)
  • Maserati A6GCS Spider '54 (A6GCS_SPYDER_54_A)
  • Toyota Alphard 3.5 Executive Lounge 4WD '18 (ALPHARD_EL_4WD_18_A)
  • Caterham Seven Super Light R500 '12 (CATERHAM_SEVEN_SL_R500_12_A)
  • Porsche Cayman GT4 '16 (CAYMAN_GT4_16_A)
  • Dodge Challenger SRT Demon '18 (CHALLENGER_SRT_DEMON_18_A)
  • Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454 '70 (CHEVELLE_SS_454_LS6_70_A)
  • Bugatti Chiron '16 (CHIRON_16_A)
  • Chevrolet Corvette Convertible (C1) '58 (CORVETTE_C1_58_A)
  • Lancia Delta HF Integrale Rally Car '92 (DELTA_HF_INTEGRALE_WRC_92_A)
  • Lancia Delta S4 Rally Car '86 (DELTA_S4_RALLY_86_A)
  • DMC DeLorean S1 '81 (DMC12_STAGE1_81_A)
  • Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4 '08 (GALLARDO_LP560_4_08_A)
  • Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA '20 (GIULIA_GTA_20_A)
  • Nissan GT-R '07 (GTR_07_A)
  • Italdesign Exeneo Vision Gran Turismo (IDG_EXENEO_VISION_GT_14_A)
  • Italdesign Exeneo Vision Gran Turismo Offroad (IDG_EXENEO_VISION_GT_14_OFF_A)
  • Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STI '10 (IMPREZA_SEDAN_WRX_STI_10_A)
  • Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STI spec-C (Type-II) '04 (IMPREZA_WRX_STI_04_A)
  • Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR GSR '04 (LANCER_EVO8_MR_GSR_04_A)
  • Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX MR GSR '06 (LANCER_EVO9_MR_GSR_06_A)
  • Lexus LFA '10 (LFA_10_A)
  • BMW M2 Competition '18 (M2_COMP_18_A)
  • Maserati Merak SS '80 (MERAK_SS_80_A)
  • McLaren MP4/4 '88 (MP4_4_88_A)
  • Pontiac GTO Judge '69 (PONTIAC_GTO_JUDGE_69_A)
  • Porsche Vision Gran Turismo Spyder (PORSCHE_VISION_GT_SPYDER_22_A)
  • Audi Sport quattro S1 Rally Car '86 (QUATTRO_S1_86_A)
  • Nissan Skyline GTS-R (R31) '87 (R31_SKYLINE_GTSR_87_A)
  • Audi R8 V10 plus '16 (R8_V10_PLUS_16_A)
  • Lancia Rally 037 EVO '84 (RALLY_037_EVO_2_84_A)
  • Mazda Roadster RF VS (ND) '18 (ROADSTER_RF_VS_18_A) (We have a 2020 version?)
  • Mazda Roadster RS (NC) '07 (ROADSTER_RS_07_A)
  • Mazda éfini RX-7 Type R (FD) '91 (RX7_R_91_A)
  • Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500 '87 (SIERRA_COSWORTH_RS500_87_A)
  • Nissan Skyline Super Silhouette Formula (R30) '84 (SKYLINE_SUPER_SILLETTE_84_A)
  • Audi TTS Coupe '09 (TTS_COUPE_09_A)
  • Bugatti Type 37 A Grand Prix '28 (TYPE_37A_28_A)
  • Volvo V40 T5 R-Design '13 (V40_T5_RDESIGN_13_A)
  • Aston Martin Vantage '18 (VANTAGE_18_A)
  • Jaguar XJ220 '92 (XJ220_GT_ROAD_92_A)

Also we can include a list of GT6 Premium cars, since we got some of them back into present GT title and they require a bit less effort, than making a car from scratch completely (List is quite long, I was too lazy to write it out)


Lastly SEMA awards cars:

  • 2003: Buick Special
  • 2004: HPA Motorsports Stage II R32
  • 2005: AEM S2000
  • 2006: Art Morrison Corvette '60
  • 2007: 2007 HPA Motorsports FT565 twin turbo Audi TT
  • 2008: High End Performance G37
  • 2009: Grand Touring Garage 1970 Ford Mustang Trans-Cammer
  • 2010: Stielow Engineering Red Devil
  • 2011: Pozzi MotorSports Camaro RS
  • 2012: Eckert's Rod & Custom Mach Forty
  • 2013: Chris Holstrom Concepts 1967 Chevy Nova
  • 2014: Roadster Shop Rampage
  • 2015: GReddy Fugu Z
  • 2016: Wicked Fabrication GT 51
  • 2017: Phil Robles' 1992 Honda Civic EX
  • 2018: Greening Auto Company 1971 Ford Maverick

And Pebble Beach awards cars:
  • 2008: Lamborghini Miura P400 Bertone Prototype '67
  • 2009: Alfa Romeo GIULIA TZ2 carrozzata da ZAGATO '65
  • 2010: Abarth 1500 Biposto Bertone B.A.T 1 '52
  • 2011: Plymouth XNR Ghia Roadster '60
  • 2012: Ferrari 500 Mondial Pinin Farina Coupe '54
  • 2013: Aston Martin DB3S CN.1 '53
  • 2014: Maserati A6GCS/53 Spyder '54
  • 2015: Cunningham C-4R Competition Roadster CN.5217 '52
  • 2016: Ferrari 330 P4 Drogo Spyder '66
  • 2017: Mercedes-Benz S Barker Tourer '29
  • 2018: AAR Eagle Indy Car '66
  • 2019: Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 Zagato '31
  • 2021: Ferrari 512 S Berlinetta '69
  • 2022: Autobianchi A112 Runabout '69
 
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Yes? It's a boring and repetitive way to pad out a game's length where it eventually devolves into a grind optimization simulator. The community around loot RPGs and gacha games and the like do little else but complain about abysmal drop rates.

At least in most of those RPGs, you're not limited to only one chance per day to obtain that item.
Yeah that’s true, you could play them as long as your health allows if you want, but this shows the difference in our approach to this game: You are willing to grind over & over and by that put the fun out of the game for yourself. I don’t want to do that, I got the Ferrari invitation at least two times but didn’t used it because at that time I was interested in driving different cars. I would like to have the LaFerrari for example and maybe some day there comes another invitation, but till then I don’t start to grind and stuff, I prefer to enjoy the game. This is by far nothing in which I try to neglect the games shortcomings or make something out of it which it isn’t, but there’s more ways than to see it as a „grind optimization simulator“, this is to a certain point your own decision to view it like that.
And you could do this with all other games if you want including the before mentioned RPGs.

Btw I didn’t talked about some of these modern RPGs which are designed around looting, I meant games like Diablo II etc.. You could argue that you could try it all day to obtain a specific item in opposite to GT7, where you just got one chance a day. But try obtaining that Z-Rune in Diablo II for example (which was sold for thousands of dollars on eBay because it’s so rare) and we can talk again.

Always with the apples and oranges comparisons :banghead:
I think you banged your head too often against that wall, there’s no apples or oranges, it’s both games, and games want to pull you into another world, doesn’t matter if it’s fantasy or something based on the real world.
 
A twitter post from september, since update will roll out soon enough and it's been such a while...
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"Beloved GT cars"? what can come into your minds? For me it's classic GT1/LMP cars, like Nissan R390 and Toyota TS020 as well as classic JGTC cars, like Honda NSX Castrol '00, RE Amemiya GT300 '06 and such. And some road japanese cars, like the legendary Daihatsu Midget II D-Type '98 and other standard cars


And then there is a database from one infamous thread, which can be a good source, since we got a cars from it (red means already in a game):

  • BMW 2002 TII '75 (2002_TII_75_A)
  • BMW 2002 Turbo '74 (2002_TURBO_74_A)
  • Ferrari 430 Scuderia '07 (430_SCUDERIA_07_A)
  • Mercedes Benz 500 E '91 (500E_91_A)
  • Ferrari 812 Superfast '19 (812_SUPERFAST_19_A)
  • Porsche 904 Carrera GTS '64 (904_CARRERA_GTS_64_A)
  • Porsche 911 Turbo S Leichtbau (964) '93 (911_TURBO_S_93_A)
  • Porsche 918 Spyder '13 (918_SPYDER_13_A)
  • Maserati A6GCS Spider '54 (A6GCS_SPYDER_54_A)
  • Toyota Alphard 3.5 Executive Lounge 4WD '18 (ALPHARD_EL_4WD_18_A)
  • Caterham Seven Super Light R500 '12 (CATERHAM_SEVEN_SL_R500_12_A)
  • Porsche Cayman GT4 '16 (CAYMAN_GT4_16_A)
  • Dodge Challenger SRT Demon '18 (CHALLENGER_SRT_DEMON_18_A)
  • Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454 '70 (CHEVELLE_SS_454_LS6_70_A)
  • Bugatti Chiron '16 (CHIRON_16_A)
  • Chevrolet Corvette Convertible (C1) '58 (CORVETTE_C1_58_A)
  • Lancia Delta HF Integrale Rally Car '92 (DELTA_HF_INTEGRALE_WRC_92_A)
  • Lancia Delta S4 Rally Car '86 (DELTA_S4_RALLY_86_A)
  • DMC DeLorean S1 '81 (DMC12_STAGE1_81_A)
  • Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4 '08 (GALLARDO_LP560_4_08_A)
  • Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA '20 (GIULIA_GTA_20_A)
  • Nissan GT-R '07 (GTR_07_A)
  • Italdesign Exeneo Vision Gran Turismo (IDG_EXENEO_VISION_GT_14_A)
  • Italdesign Exeneo Vision Gran Turismo Offroad (IDG_EXENEO_VISION_GT_14_OFF_A)
  • Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STI '10 (IMPREZA_SEDAN_WRX_STI_10_A)
  • Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STI spec-C (Type-II) '04 (IMPREZA_WRX_STI_04_A)
  • Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR GSR '04 (LANCER_EVO8_MR_GSR_04_A)
  • Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX MR GSR '06 (LANCER_EVO9_MR_GSR_06_A)
  • Lexus LFA '10 (LFA_10_A)
  • BMW M2 Competition '18 (M2_COMP_18_A)
  • Maserati Merak SS '80 (MERAK_SS_80_A)
  • McLaren MP4/4 '88 (MP4_4_88_A)
  • Pontiac GTO Judge '69 (PONTIAC_GTO_JUDGE_69_A)
  • Porsche Vision Gran Turismo Spyder (PORSCHE_VISION_GT_SPYDER_22_A)
  • Audi Sport quattro S1 Rally Car '86 (QUATTRO_S1_86_A)
  • Nissan Skyline GTS-R (R31) '87 (R31_SKYLINE_GTSR_87_A)
  • Audi R8 V10 plus '16 (R8_V10_PLUS_16_A)
  • Lancia Rally 037 EVO '84 (RALLY_037_EVO_2_84_A)
  • Mazda Roadster RF VS (ND) '18 (ROADSTER_RF_VS_18_A) (We have a 2020 version?)
  • Mazda Roadster RS (NC) '07 (ROADSTER_RS_07_A)
  • Mazda éfini RX-7 Type R (FD) '91 (RX7_R_91_A)
  • Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500 '87 (SIERRA_COSWORTH_RS500_87_A)
  • Nissan Skyline Super Silhouette Formula (R30) '84 (SKYLINE_SUPER_SILLETTE_84_A)
  • Audi TTS Coupe '09 (TTS_COUPE_09_A)
  • Bugatti Type 37 A Grand Prix '28 (TYPE_37A_28_A)
  • Volvo V40 T5 R-Design '13 (V40_T5_RDESIGN_13_A)
  • Aston Martin Vantage '18 (VANTAGE_18_A)
  • Jaguar XJ220 '92 (XJ220_GT_ROAD_92_A)

Also we can include a list of GT6 Premium cars, since we got some of them back into present GT title and they require a bit less effort, than making a car from scratch completely (List is quite long, I was too lazy to write it out)


Lastly SEMA awards cars:

  • 2003: Buick Special
  • 2004: HPA Motorsports Stage II R32
  • 2005: AEM S2000
  • 2006: Art Morrison Corvette '60
  • 2007: 2007 HPA Motorsports FT565 twin turbo Audi TT
  • 2008: High End Performance G37
  • 2009: Grand Touring Garage 1970 Ford Mustang Trans-Cammer
  • 2010: Stielow Engineering Red Devil
  • 2011: Pozzi MotorSports Camaro RS
  • 2012: Eckert's Rod & Custom Mach Forty
  • 2013: Chris Holstrom Concepts 1967 Chevy Nova
  • 2014: Roadster Shop Rampage
  • 2015: GReddy Fugu Z
  • 2016: Wicked Fabrication GT 51
  • 2017: Phil Robles' 1992 Honda Civic EX
  • 2018: Greening Auto Company 1971 Ford Maverick

And Pebble Beach awards cars:
  • 2008: Lamborghini Miura P400 Bertone Prototype '67
  • 2009: Alfa Romeo GIULIA TZ2 carrozzata da ZAGATO '65
  • 2010: Abarth 1500 Biposto Bertone B.A.T 1 '52
  • 2011: Plymouth XNR Ghia Roadster '60
  • 2012: Ferrari 500 Mondial Pinin Farina Coupe '54
  • 2013: Aston Martin DB3S CN.1 '53
  • 2014: Maserati A6GCS/53 Spyder '54
  • 2015: Cunningham C-4R Competition Roadster CN.5217 '52
  • 2016: Ferrari 330 P4 Drogo Spyder '66
  • 2017: Mercedes-Benz S Barker Tourer '29
  • 2018: AAR Eagle Indy Car '66
  • 2019: Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 Zagato '31
  • 2021: Ferrari 512 S Berlinetta '69
  • 2022: Autobianchi A112 Runabout '69
It could be nothing but looking at the cars that were made into semi premiums in GT6 some of them are included in GT7 as regular car models.
The bolded white ones are already in GT7 but were Semi Premiums in GT6 while the orange ones are cars that I think are possible to show up in DLC, teal are ones that I think are considered iconic GT cars:

Plymouth Superbird
Mitsubishi FTO GPvR '97
Nissan R390 Road Car
Nissan R390 GT1 Race Car

Ford RS200
Jaguar XJ220

RUF BTR
RUF RGT
RUF CTR "Yellow Bird"
RUF 3400S
Alpine A110 1600S '73
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C5) '00
Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 (C4) '90
Ford Mustang SVT Cobra R '00
Ford RS200 Rally Car '85

Jaguar XJ220 '92
Jaguar XJ220 LM Race Car
Mazda MX-5 (NA) '89
Mazda MX-5 Miata (NA) '89
Mitsubishi FTO GP Version R '99
Nissan 300ZX 2seater (Z32) '89
Nissan Fairlady 240ZG (HS30) '71
Nissan R390 GT1 '98
Nissan R390 GT1 Road Car '98

Nissan SILVIA K's AERO (S14) '96
Nissan SKYLINE 2000GT-R (KPGC110) '73
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R V-Spec (R33) '97
Nissan SKYLINE Hard Top 2000GT-R (KPGC10) '70

Opel Calibra Touring Car '94
Plymouth Superbird '70
Suzuki V6 ESCUDO Pikes Peak Special '98 *Already included but it's synonymous with GT.
Tommykaira ZZ-S '00
Toyota COROLLA LEVIN GT-APEX (AE86) '83
Toyota SPRINTER TRUENO GT-APEX (AE86) '83
Toyota SPRINTER TRUENO GT-APEX (AE86 Shuichi Shigeno Version) '00
Toyota SUPERAUTOBACS APEX MR-S '00
Vauxhall Calibra Touring Car '94
 
Best case scenario holiday 2025. Which it means 3.5/4 years of development.
Worst case scenario holiday 2026. Which means 4.5/5 years of development.
Did all of you somehow forget that there were 5 years between GTS and GT7, and 9 years between numbered GT games? And this was before they were calling any of them a "live service." You guys are dreaming if you expect GT8 before 2030.
 
Did all of you somehow forget that there were 5 years between GTS and GT7, and 9 years between numbered GT games? And this was before they were calling any of them a "live service." You guys are dreaming if you expect GT8 before 2030.
Gt sport and gt7 are less then 4 years and half with covid in the mean time and a new console out.
Gt6 has been released after 3 years exactly.
 
Gt sport and gt7 are less then 4 years and half with covid in the mean time and a new console out.
Gt6 has been released after 3 years exactly.
GT Sport came out in 2017 while GT7 came out in 2022. How is that less then 4 years?
 
All of that, and in no way does any of it make the slightest bit of difference to the fact that its a game I've already paid for.
Oh, and none of it is difficult, quite the opposite. But in principle, keeping in 'GAME' pricing of cars to reflect reality is literally anti-escapism, lets not pretend otherwise.
It's a game.

And like all games it is made to appeal to a wide audience. From absolute noobs to elite alien racers. Young and old players. People who want to collect every car. Or every Japanese car. Or American muscle car. Or the car they own. Or that FXXK or DB5. Players who have been around since the first GT and those experiencing it new for the first time. Online only players and career mode players and everything in between. Photographers and tuners and racers.

So there are going to be bits of the game that some people will enjoy more than others. We will usually have to agree to disagree. We won't always like the same things.

The fact that you find something anti-escapism doesn't mean that everyone else will. I like the fact that GT7 (and all the others that came before it) made me work for the rarest cars. You don't. That's okay. It's a free world - well, most of it is.

Opinions are not indisputable facts.
 
So we just gonna ignore that GT Sport hasn't even had its servers shut down yet?
Well, I don't really think it's relevant to be honest.

GT5/6 shut down quickly but we're in a very different era now where PD know their goodwill isn't as strong, and they know that the game is quite literally online-only (with an online focus to boot).
They'd be silly to shut it down, they obviously know this too because it didn't go the way of 5/6 - it'd hurt them more than it'd do anything else. I can see the servers being up another decade or so honestly.

They need to set the precedent that the games are actively kept alive if they're going down the online only route - and GTS is what everybody is looking at to see how they handle their games going forward.
Less people will buy GT7 (and GT8 if it is also online only) if GTS dies in less than a year after 7's release. PD will know this.
 
Well, I don't really think it's relevant to be honest.

GT5/6 shut down quickly but we're in a very different era now where PD know their goodwill isn't as strong, and they know that the game is quite literally online-only (with an online focus to boot).
They'd be silly to shut it down, they obviously know this too because it didn't go the way of 5/6 - it'd hurt them more than it'd do anything else. I can see the servers being up another decade or so honestly.

They need to set the precedent that the games are actively kept alive if they're going down the online only route - and GTS is what everybody is looking at to see how they handle their games going forward.
Less people will buy GT7 (and GT8 if it is also online only) if GTS dies in less than a year after 7's release. PD will know this.
GT Sport been online over 5 years and if they shut it down then i think they want the people that are playing GT Sport to move on to GT7 imho
 
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It's a game.

And like all games it is made to appeal to a wide audience. From absolute noobs to elite alien racers. Young and old players. People who want to collect every car. Or every Japanese car. Or American muscle car. Or the car they own. Or that FXXK or DB5. Players who have been around since the first GT and those experiencing it new for the first time. Online only players and career mode players and everything in between. Photographers and tuners and racers.

So there are going to be bits of the game that some people will enjoy more than others. We will usually have to agree to disagree. We won't always like the same things.

The fact that you find something anti-escapism doesn't mean that everyone else will. I like the fact that GT7 (and all the others that came before it) made me work for the rarest cars. You don't. That's okay. It's a free world - well, most of it is.

Opinions are not indisputable facts.
So in my over 330 hours I haven't worked my hardest to buy a car that's completely base of odds and requires 0 effort since its RNG based.

Gotcha.
 
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I agree with you, the game has no structure to it, i gave up on it a month ago. What was supposed to be a return to the original GT format, has ended up being untrue, It started off by having cars with nowhere to race, Or tracks with hardly again races. And even nearly a year down the road, has anything really changed. I also do believe that content, not necessarily cars but races were kept back to use for updates to keep people playing and maybe hoping there would be bigger monthly updates. If people think that a big update will drop this month, with a track or a bunch of new cars, we’ll i believe the updates will stop completely very soon.
I gave up too. I uninstalled GT7 to make space for GoW Ragnarok. I'm just a tourist on this forum now, checking once a week.
What would make me come back (=a complete, fun, matchmaking system online with all cars and tracks from the game, FM-style) will never happen. So I'm just done. I tried several times to enjoy B races in Sport Mode, but they're always the same. I came back several times to try the new tracks and the few new cars but there's a time when you really get sick of all that.
It's not GT fatigue, I would call it PD fatigue: the way they handle everything.
 
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So true, the game had so much potential, but Sony and PD, have made a big profit and no doubt they will as well with the PSVR2 out now as well, I have played every game, and this is the worst edition by far. It won’t get any better, in fact when i read comments on this forum, it seems a lot of people feel this way, and some hoping it will improve, the game doesn’t need any more cars, just needs more events to use the existing cars in . We started the game with cars that had no races compatible for them, ie VGT and Group 1, where is the logic in that, i know you can detune them but what is the point of that, j would like to use them for the correct races they were meant to be used in, I’m not the first person to highlight this. and i do feel like a stuck record sometimes. But i think it’s time to accept this game is finished.
 
Yeah that’s true, you could play them as long as your health allows if you want, but this shows the difference in our approach to this game: You are willing to grind over & over and by that put the fun out of the game for yourself.
No. I'm not willing to grind over & over. I don't want to grind over & over (and when it comes to the roulette wheel, it's straight up not possible to grind over & over without a glitch that's long been fixed).

I want the cars in the game to be available for purchase at any time. So that a day 1 player and a player who picks this game up from the bargain bin three years later will both have an equal experience collecting cars.

I didn't put the fun out of the game for myself. PD made it so that I can have 100 million credits in the bank and still not be able to purchase an invite car without RNGesus' blessing. How is that fun?

But hey, at least there is a slim chance of getting a random invite ticket. There's no chance at all of getting an Escudo or a Ford Roadster now that PD's removed them from the LCD rotation. Is it a bug? Did their licenses run out? Does PD even know? Not a clue because there's next to no communication.

The invite system itself just feels so...perfunctory. Here's a handful of "special" cars that sit in the same shop with all the other cars only with a bit of text that says no touching without a "special" ticket. How do you get a ticket? Who knows, maybe spin the roulette wheel. How do you spin the roulette wheel? Do a 26 mile commute everyday. And what happens when you randomly win a ticket? You just quietly go back to the shop and buy the car like you would all the other cars. Assuming, of course, that it was a ticket for a car you actually wanted to buy.

Where's the fanfare if these cars are so special? At least the LCD cars have their own shop and cinematics.
 
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So true, the game had so much potential, but Sony and PD, have made a big profit and no doubt they will as well with the PSVR2 out now as well, I have played every game, and this is the worst edition by far. It won’t get any better, in fact when i read comments on this forum, it seems a lot of people feel this way, and some hoping it will improve, the game doesn’t need any more cars, just needs more events to use the existing cars in . We started the game with cars that had no races compatible for them, ie VGT and Group 1, where is the logic in that, i know you can detune them but what is the point of that, j would like to use them for the correct races they were meant to be used in, I’m not the first person to highlight this. and i do feel like a stuck record sometimes. But i think it’s time to accept this game is finished.
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No. I'm not willing to grind over & over. I don't want to grind over & over (and when it comes to the roulette wheel, it's straight up not possible to grind over & over without a glitch that's long been fixed).

I want the cars in the game to be available for purchase at any time. So that a day 1 player and a player who picks this game up from the bargain bin three years later will both have an equal experience collecting cars.

I didn't put the fun out of the game for myself. PD made it so that I can have 100 million credits in the bank and still not be able to purchase an invite car without RNGesus' blessing. How is that fun?

But hey, at least there is a slim chance of getting a random invite ticket. There's no chance at all of getting an Escudo or a Ford Roadster now that PD's removed them from the LCD rotation. Is it a bug? Did their licenses run out? Does PD even know? Not a clue because there's next to no communication.

The invite system itself just feels so...perfunctory. Here's a handful of "special" cars that sit in the same shop with all the other cars only with a bit of text that says no touching without a "special" ticket. How do you get a ticket? Who knows, maybe spin the roulette wheel. How do you spin the roulette wheel? Do a 26 mile commute everyday. And what happens when you randomly win a ticket? You just quietly go back to the shop and buy the car like you would all the other cars. Assuming, of course, that it was a ticket for a car you actually wanted to buy.

Where's the...fanfare if these cars are so special? At least the LCD cars have their own shop and cinematics.
Yeah you want the cars in the game to be available at any time, I’m not. I like the way it’s been designed either the LCD, UCD and Invites. I think we both celebrate different aspects of the automotive world and have different playstyles, that’s why this appeals to me but not to you, you seem to can’t relate to this. If you are a long time fan of GT im sorry that it got into a direction you don’t like in some aspects, but accept that your opinion isn’t the only one and people can like what you don’t.
 
Yeah you want the cars in the game to be available at any time, I’m not. I like the way it’s been designed either the LCD, UCD and Invites. I think we both celebrate different aspects of the automotive world and have different playstyles, that’s why this appeals to me but not to you, you seem to can’t relate to this. If you are a long time fan of GT im sorry that it got into a direction you don’t like in some aspects, but accept that your opinion isn’t the only one and people can like what you don’t.
Sure. I cannot see how locking content purely behind RNG in a racing game (or really any genre where gambling isn't the main focus) is in any way appealing. The invite system is about as mechanically involved as watching a loading bar.

If I wanted to roll gacha, I'd just play Genshin.
 
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Everyone had all of the invites for a month in April 2022 - which is less than a year ago and, as we know, GT7 isn't even a year old yet...
Cmon Famine! It’s 1 years old in 2 weeks. And again. We are discussing the game design problem that is still there. Even Pd doesn’t like this game design choice. They just confirmed what i said with that stupid decision🤦🏻‍♂️
 
Cmon Famine! It’s 1 years old in 2 weeks.
Okay. And?

Everyone got all the invitations for 30 days, starting in mid-April 2022 - which, as we can see from a brief glance at a calendar, means everyone had all the invitations nine months ago (since it expired on May 12 and today is February 11).

You say you've never had some invitations in a year of play. But you're part of everyone, and everyone had all the invitations nine months ago.

That means that reality doesn't agree with at least one of the two facts in your statement; either you had the invitations or, by missing out an entire month of the past 11 months and one week, you've not had a year of play.


The fact that the invitation system, as implemented, is absolutely bollocks isn't connected to your demonstrably at least 50% inaccurate claim.

A simple "Oh yeah, I forgot about that" would have sufficed, rather than the double-down and swerve.
 
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In gt7 we have.

787B 1991
R92CP 1992
962 C 1988
Sauber C9 1989
XJR-9 1988

Is that all of them or are there some missing?
Those are some, if not, the most significant.

You have the 3.5 liter beasts (shame those regulations were used to kill Group C, but they still produced some of the most magnificent cars ever) like the Jaguar XJR-14 which won the WSCC in 1991.
You have the Peugeot 905 Evo B that dominated the WSCC in 1992 and won both the 1992 and 1993 24hr of Le Mans, the last of the Gr.C winners. This 905 was featured in GT4.
And then you have the 905 rival, pretty much it's only rival during 1992 and 1993, in the Toyota TS010 which placed 2nd in Le Mans 1992. The prototype of this Toyota had so much downforce that it broke ribs of 2 drivers trying to reach the "limit" of that car.

Other less significant cars, but still nice to haves, and to add more of them Gr.C cars to other manufacturers, would be the Lancia LC2, the Aston Martin AMR1 and the Ford C100, which are some of the first years Gr.C cars. Of the early years, the most dominant car was the Porsche 956, but that is almost literally the same car as the 962 so it really wouldn't amount too much in adding it.


And after Gr.C, one of the most appealing eras to fans of motorsport were the LM GT1 cars. Of which we already have the Mercedes CLK-LM and the McLaren F1 GTR LongTail.
However, we are still missing a few cars of this era, that have a lot of fanbase, and are significant on their own right, and some have even been part of Gran Turismos in the past (started in GT3 and GT4) like:

Toyota GT-One TS020. This one I'm still incredibly surprised at how it's still not in the game given the following: A very famous japanese race car designed just to win Le Mans and almost had it in 1998 (had a puncture while chasing the leading BMW V12 LMR), a Toyota, a Gran Turismo icon, probably an even bigger icon of the game than the Suzuki Escudo.
Nissan R390 GT1
Panoz GTR-1
And the 1998 Le Mans winner, Porsche 911 GT1. We have a 911 GT1 in the game but it's the road version and from 1997. The 1998 is quite a bit different and... it's the race car that won Le Mans, the only GT1 car to win Le Mans in fact.

Among the Gr.1, GT7 is well stacked in the LMP1 class.

But a few missings from this group (Gr.1, not LMP1) are still notable by us such as:

Bentley Speed 8 (featured in GT4 and won Le Mans in 2003)
Any of the 2000s Audis, either the R8, the R10 TDi or the record breaking distance covered in Le Mans R15 TDi. The first two (R8 and R10) have featured in past Gran Turismos, with the R10 being a premium car in GT5/GT6.
Toyota TS040, which won the WEC championship against Porsche and Audi.
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Everyone had all of the invites for a month in April 2022 - which is less than a year ago and, as we know, GT7 isn't even a year old yet...
We all know why... But I actually understand his statement. Excluding the glitch party we had and also PD's goodwill to offer us invites for 1 month, I personally have never gotten a Ferrari Invite from the roulette. Ever...
Now if he bought the game in May or after... Yeah, I can totally see people, even to this day, not even having gained an Invite for some manufacturer. Unless PD's offer actually extended to even the people who bought the game after that (confirmation needed).
If he bought the game at launch then he's wrong of course.
 
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This invite system takes away my incentive to grind the game and buy all the cars.
I don’t have the time to check the vendors every day, nor to have a good stash of credits ready in case I happen to get the invitation from the horrible RNG tickets. Fair chance I’ll miss opportunities to buy some special ones.

I could be bothered with it a lot, but the system is so weird that I’m beyond that stage. If I can’t obtain some, sod it then.
It’s just a game.
 
Okay. And?

Everyone got all the invitations for 30 days, starting in mid-April 2022 - which, as we can see from a brief glance at a calendar, means everyone had all the invitations nine months ago (since it expired on May 12 and today is February 11).

You say you've never had some invitations in a year of play. But you're part of everyone, and everyone had all the invitations nine months ago.

That means that reality doesn't agree with at least one of the two facts in your statement; either you had the invitations or, by missing out an entire month of the past 11 months and one week, you've not had a year of play.


The fact that the invitation system, as implemented, is absolutely bollocks isn't connected to your demonstrably at least 50% inaccurate claim.

A simple "Oh yeah, I forgot about that" would have sufficed, rather than the double-down and swerve.
It is not that the point. I didn’t forget at all. It’s just broke the system. They just improvised last april just because they completely messed up everything with servers and economy. I have 350 hours of gameplay and i still play almost every day. And again that month was IMPROVISED and not planned. That’s it.
 
It is not that the point. I didn’t forget at all. It’s just broke the system. They just improvised last april just because they completely messed up everything with servers and economy. I have 350 hours of gameplay and i still play almost every day. And again that month was IMPROVISED and not planned. That’s it.
Seems like a long-winded way of saying "I had the invitations for that 30-day period like everyone else but forgot when I was making my exaggerated point".

Everyone forgets stuff from time to time. It's not a hanging offence.

If he bought the game at launch then he's wrong of course.
Which would be the year part of it; without that it's nine months tops.


To repeat, the invitation system as it stands is bollocks. It would be both much better and much more realistic if instead of locking cars behind a randomly delivered invitation, it locked them behind an ownership wall.

For example you can only buy the LaFerrari if you already own the F40, F50, and Enzo - and you can only buy the FXXK if you own the LaFerrari (in keeping with reality). It'd certainly be quite irritating to be held to ransom by the Legends Cars dealer and having... like... nine million credits (given how slow GT7 is with earning them) to buy them all, but it would at least mimic reality and provide an actual path to buying them that doesn't directly depend on a fluke, and an effort/reward gameplay loop.

They could make it more fun too; in the real world you couldn't buy a Mk2 Ford GT unless you had owned other fast Fords, had a social media following, and agreed not to flip it for a year. So how about requiring you own a Mustang, Focus RS, and a Mk1 Ford GT and shared at least 50 photos and five replays of Ford vehicles? And also prevented you from selling it in the car appraisal section for... I don't know, a year seems silly, but a month?

It'd be a ton more engaging that way.
 
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