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"Want", "expect", the difference is trivial here. I understand you're very specific about word choice, but we're getting pretty pedantic about differences that don't really differ much at all.
They differ greatly: neither I nor the post I quoted said one, both said the other.

If I'm responding to specific words - which I was - please don't substitute different ones, pretend they were used instead, and then launch into a tirade based on that.

I don’t think most people would. Especially with the interest in cars dwindling. I’m a car nut and I did not expect to see luxury cars in GT2. Let alone to see Accord, Legnum(I didn’t even know what that was before Gran Turismo-one of my best friends owns one) and Subaru(wagons)estates in the first game.

I don’t expect to see an M4 Touring in GT7 and I guess GT8. That’s only from knowing the recent history of PD adding cars. We all still have no idea what to expect.
Indeed - and there's a gulf between desires and expectations.

Do I want an M5 in GT7? Yep: E60 please (or ideally the almost-M5 Alpina B10 S Touring, for the E39 wagony goodness). Would I expect one? Not exactly, no. I don't think they're on PD's radar exactly - even though one member of staff owned (or owns? The conversation was a while back and some beers in) an Alpina B7.

I'd expect one in Forza Horizon though. Indeed what to expect from a "modern racing game" varies depending on the game. FH yes, FM/GT/ACE/PMR maybe, NFS poooossibly, ACC/F1/TXR/WRC/etc nope.

What I expect from GT7's updates right now is a largely new-to-game set of 3-5 cars comprising some newish and some 1980s-1990s models, often filling in gaps in generations are nameplates, and the occasional really weird thing.
 
"Want", "expect", the difference is trivial here. I understand you're very specific about word choice, but we're getting pretty pedantic about differences that don't really differ much at all.

Except that is literally NOT how those two words work. You also can want something without expecting it and likewise you can expect something without wanting it. That's not pedantic, there's literally a difference between the two words as defined in the dictionary. If you are implying that they are the same thing, there's two literal defined reasons that is incorrect.
 
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Except that is literally NOT how those two words work. You also can want something without expecting it and likewise you can expect something without wanting it. That's not pedantic, there's literally a difference between the two words as defined in the dictionary. If you are implying that they are the same thing, there's two literal defined reasons that is incorrect.
I didn't imply they were the same, I said the difference is trivial in this case. Note the "difference". If you're arguing as to the specifics, it pays to be specific in your refute.

A large number of the people asking for these cars WANT and EXPECT them. Look at the GT7 FB groups for proof.
 
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Am I the only one who cannot drive the Escudo with a wheel (on road at least)? The force feedback is unbearably weird in it. This never used to be a problem, and I'm on the stock tune.
 
M5 would be better suited than many cars we already have in the game. Their is plenty of heavy or slow cars. So that dosent work as an argument,
Its about creating better varity in the game and fill out the missing gaps on more on the brands.

A m5 would be a better addition than another m3 because their is already 5 of them

Are you a M5 owner?? Just curiosity after being how persistant you are using that car in every reply im this thread🤭🤭
 
Am I the only one who cannot drive the Escudo with a wheel (on road at least)? The force feedback is unbearably weird in it. This never used to be a problem, and I'm on the stock tune.
The Escudo is a really softly sprung car. You're likely experiencing torque steer combined with the front tires skipping from the wheelspin. At least, in a straight line/launching it.
 
Just a thing about the invitations. I guess it’s been discussed to death as I don’t pay much mind to it. Thing is, it’s as if Kaz saw how bad it is and just didn’t bother to okay placing “new cars in waiting”. The Mission X, Valkyrie and even the 918 Spyder could be prime candidates for invitations. Veyron is an invitation while the Chiron isn’t. I guess PD really messed up.
 
Just a thing about the invitations. I guess it’s been discussed to death as I don’t pay much mind to it. Thing is, it’s as if Kaz saw how bad it is and just didn’t bother to okay placing “new cars in waiting”. The Mission X, Valkyrie and even the 918 Spyder could be prime candidates for invitations. Veyron is an invitation while the Chiron isn’t. I guess PD really messed up.
Yeah the invitations suck. It took me 2 years to get all of the invite cars. There have been others who got them all when they all the invites available. Some it has taken longer than 2 years. I think out of all the bad ideas they have this is by far the worst
 
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Yeah the invitations suck. It took me 2 years to get all of the invite cars. There have been others who got them all when they all the invites available. Some it has taken longer than 2 years. I think out of all the bad ideas they have this is by far the worst
It's one of multiple things they've implemented in a manner that emulates the exclusivity of real life and creates work in the game. The whole reason we're playing a game is to experience things we can't experience in real life. The invites are the worst but the economics of the pricing scheme is also bad. I don't mind realistic pricing per se, but the rest of the game's economy and prize cars are poorly balanced.
 
It's not a modern "racing" game, it's a modern game that celebrates car culture AND racing. There are many aspects of GT that have nothing to do with running a car around a circuit.
A good amount of complaints the people in this website have regarding GT franchise is that the game doesn't feel racing enough. Though personally for me, while I do want for the racing aspects to be made deeper, but I don't want for them to throw away the car culture aspect.
Are we playing GT6? NO, we are not....
It's just an example of a game where all cars are available.
Just a thing about the invitations. I guess it’s been discussed to death as I don’t pay much mind to it. Thing is, it’s as if Kaz saw how bad it is and just didn’t bother to okay placing “new cars in waiting”. The Mission X, Valkyrie and even the 918 Spyder could be prime candidates for invitations. Veyron is an invitation while the Chiron isn’t. I guess PD really messed up.
There's still 20 mil newly added cars in LCD.
It's one of multiple things they've implemented in a manner that emulates the exclusivity of real life and creates work in the game. The whole reason we're playing a game is to experience things we can't experience in real life. The invites are the worst but the economics of the pricing scheme is also bad. I don't mind realistic pricing per se, but the rest of the game's economy and prize cars are poorly balanced.
As this article says, this'd be what if Invitations actually emulated real life exclusivity, not random RNG.
 
Question for anyone willing to check out, is the word "Midnight" still censored while creating a lobby room? I'd check it out but I absolutely and I mean absolutely dread seeing the "You've been censored" screen message. Thanks.
 
Question for anyone willing to check out, is the word "Midnight" still censored while creating a lobby room? I'd check it out but I absolutely and I mean absolutely dread seeing the "You've been censored" screen message. Thanks.
Based on testing by searching that word on the livery search and looking for someone with anglophone flag (as word filters are on per-language basis), looks like it's no longer the case:
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Of course we can. We can’t mix up treaded compounds. We can definitely add RH to one AI car and the rest of the cars on a grid have default treaded compounds fitted.

I have all 18 AI different Roadsters with RH. Just selected one to have the stock CS.
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Now I'm confused. It has been mentioned here several times that AI in custom races will always use stock tires.
Will try and report back!
 
4 Cars

3 Events:

Sunday Cup
Kyoto Driving Park - Miyabi

Japanese FF Challenge 450
Sardegna - Road Track - C

World Touring Car 600
Autódromo de Interlagos

2 new Sophy Tracks

Interlagos
Mount Panorama
 
Those three races will take you 2 days? :lol:
Haha, hopefully not, but the content will have its life extended beyond the career events in the form of leagues. Especially in the case of the F3500-A I'd imagine.
 
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So weird they added the CH-R in its base spec.
I think it's appropriate and they should almost always do this. Remember GT2? Remember how it had literally hundreds of crappy Japanese economy cars that were pretty gutless until you tuned them? That's the point. If there's one thing that drives me nuts about PD lately it's them adding top specs of cars because that eliminates half of the gameplay.

In other news, is that trailer song already in the game? It's not really my style but it goes hard. If it is I imagine it's race music and I haven't played with race music since GT2.
 
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Now I'm confused. It has been mentioned here several times that AI in custom races will always use stock tires.
Will try and report back!
They will use their stock tires UNLESS you equip them with RH tires(it won't work for RM and RS tires, only RH will do this job)...this is one exception from that rule!

Another exception: If you run a custom race on dirt or snow, the AI will switch to dirt or snow tires automatically, even if they are from your garage and you never bought dirt or snow tires for them!(just found that bit of information out a week ago ;)...)
Just make sure that the car you are using yourself has the dirt/snow tires on before enter the settings-menu for the custom race.The game won't let you start that race, when your car is still on road tires and you might loose all the settings you made for the race if you havn't saved those settings...)
 
What are the odds that there will be no single players event designed for the new 90's F1 car?

Getting Mercedes W196 vibes all over again

Called it...I take no pleasure in this...it's an utter waste of resources in putting the car in the game if the majority of players will never actually find use for it.
 
I think it's appropriate and they should almost always do this. Remember GT2? Remember how it had literally hundreds of crappy Japanese economy cars that were pretty gutless until you tuned them? That's the point. If there's one thing that drives me nuts about PD lately it's them adding top specs of cars because that eliminates half of the gameplay.

In other news, is that trailer song already in the game? It's not really my style but it goes hard. If it is I imagine it's race music and I haven't played with race music since GT2.
When I said I really meant the trim. AFAIK the CH-R hybrid only came with 1 powertrain at first, though I could be wrong. It’s weird seeing those base spec halogens in the back instead of the LEDs that came in the much more popular upper trims.
 
By the February update, we would already exceed a milestone with over 100 cars added from updates. As of this update (1.55), 99 cars have been added to GT7 so far, resulting in 523 cars. That's as many cars as the complete version of Forza Motorsport 3.

100 extra cars in three years, and then I heard that Polyphony are capable of 60 cars a year if I remember correctly...
 
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