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Meanwhile, I just saw a GT-style car reveal trailer released within an hour of GT7's, for another game on the PlayStation YouTube channel which, get this; features race cars.


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Crazy concept I know.
Maybe there's a reason why other racing games seem to be adding the same things?
It's the timing of this trailer I find the most funny.
 
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Meanwhile, I just saw a GT-style car reveal trailer released within an hour of GT7's, for another game on the PlayStation YouTube channel which, get this; features race cars.


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Crazy concept I know.
Maybe there's a reason why racing games seem to be adding the same things?
It's the timing of this trailer I find the most funny.

It's a game that's literally about the top endurance racing events. What else would you expect from it than the racing cars that race in the top endurance racing events?
 
Meanwhile, I just saw a GT-style car reveal trailer released within an hour of GT7's, for another game on the PlayStation YouTube channel which, get this; features race cars.


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Crazy concept I know.
Maybe there's a reason why other racing games seem to be adding the same things?
It's the timing of this trailer I find the most funny.

Only speculation on my part but maybe the license to get the LMDH versions of the wec hypercars is not that hard cause this cars are popping up in alot of racing games now.

My only hope is that PD is saving them for GT8.
 
Only speculation on my part but maybe the license to get the LMDH versions of the wec hypercars is not that hard cause this cars are popping up in alot of racing games now.

My only hope is that PD is saving them for GT8.
Endurance Motorsport Series is said to have a licensed Toyota GR010, but the FIA WEC logos appear to be censored or removed.
 
This is one of my biggest gripes with the game. A singular entry from a specific class with no natural competitor. The Toyota hypercar and audi rs5 dtm being the main culprits
THIS. So much.
Halfway through the year, shared content stats from all 14 cars featured in the updates from January to May up to today:
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  • F3500-A hits the 100 page limit in styles and both types of photos, with Carry also doing so in styles only and Kangoo looking forward to do so.
  • EF Civic is the second-highest non-meme car in the top 5 of average shared content.
  • Japanese SUV trio hovering at average of 15 pages - despite CX-30 being more tunable as a non-hybrid, it hovers around the same numbers as the hybrid C-HR and CR-V. This does confirm the sentiment against crossover SUVs, though.
  • In average, January to May cars all have around 57 pages of styles, 53 pages of scapes, 31 pages of race photos, and 12 pages of replays (as they can be difficult to upload). These average to around 38 pages for all cars and content types.
  • The C5 Corvette is currently the sole American car added this year.

When I heard this issue regarding the Alfa 155 DTM, I somehow jumped to the conclusion that that particular car might as well not be in the game.
Well done on collecting and presenting that data. So no one gives a **** about the crossovers, eh? Who’d have thought? :rolleyes:
 
Oh, that old one. Please. :lol: I’ll quote myself below.
You know you can do more in the game than buy a safety car right? You’re tying to say that because someone hasn’t gone 500kph they then don’t play the single player game? Are you really that ignorant as to what Gran turismo actually is?

Actually answer this right, if sport mode numbers are soo low in comparison why on earth would PD update the cars used in 66% of the races? Maybe if people actually cared about it you’d get the cars you’d want
 
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People like you are the reason why soo many racing games are soo similar!
Not all racing games are sooo similar. NFS completely different, F1 completely different, ACC completely different…

Nothing would change if suddenly PD dropped several Group 5 race cars into the game. It would be exactly the same as it was except we’d have a batch of cars that require no tuning before jumping onto a track to race them. Literally nothing would change about the game.

That was my point, how we have to always spend time tuning to create our own classes because they don’t do that on their end. They pick iconic cars, but ultimately those end up not competing with one another or any other car. Problem could be solved with the muscle cars, if they gave original engine swap options, such as dropping in a 340 into the challenger, or a 427 into the Camaro.

THAT is what I like about other racing games. You pick a car and most of the time they’re all equal from the get go. The beauty with GT7 is there IS tuning so if one car ends up being the clear choice to win, you can detune just a little. Not having to go haywire with parts and constant testing.

Classing up cars better in GT7 isn’t going to change Gran Turismo as a game in any way. If they want to have the crappy GT40 instead of the one that competed with the P4 then so be it. I just think it’s a missed opportunity. Put that GT40 in museum facts and give us the other one.
 
There is nothing that says Gran Turismo's identity should be around modern race cars. There's no sim racing rule that says "must be this GT3 or Hypercar to enter".

However, PD are clearly still saying they want their identity to be around modern race cars, because their entire online offering sans one race and their esports championship are based around them. But they are also saying they don't, because of the vacuum of new ones.

They really need to get their content pipeline team and Sport Mode operations team in a room, and get them to agree either "more modern race cars aren't coming soon, so go add some variety to online" or "we want to keep our online identity focused on GT3/GT300 cars and LMHs, go scan some of those". The biggest problem with the game is that it feels like those two teams are completely siloed from each other, and it causes this dual-identity issue that permeates every discussion about updates.
 
You know you can do more in the game than buy a safety car right? You’re tying to say that because someone hasn’t gone 500kph they then don’t play the single player game? Are you really that ignorant as to what Gran turismo actually is?

Actually answer this right, if sport mode numbers are soo low in comparison why on earth would PD update the cars used in 66% of the races? Maybe if people actually cared about it you’d get the cars you’d want
Of course I know that but they’re examples of easy singleplayer/offline trophies with low achievement percentage, just like your example. And in general the fall off in percentage follows most other games anyway, nothing extraordinary about it. Gran Turismo accomodates (clearly not with great success but with great potential) several kinds of players and it’s pretty pathetic to think one is worth more than the other. As someone who can enjoy both offline and online, road and race cars, I’ve issues with the extremes on both sides, even if the hardcore offline ones strike me as more obnoxious attitude wise.

Race A with road cars is available but the single player crowd seems to think it’s more enjoyable to go around Sardegna for the 394th time winning against bots by a minute despite below par skill.

I don’t know, man. Nakano summarised it fine. There are gaps in what they bring to the game post-release and how they present and let the game play.
 
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There are plenty of games where Kaz is not present to begin with. Instead of playing those you tell him to step down from his own game. Interesting concept.
Changes are needed sometimes. Maybe it will prove me wrong. Maybe it will prove me right. Who knows...
 
It’s pretty pathetic to think one is worth more than the other.
So no one gives a **** about the crossovers, eh? Who’d have thought? :rolleyes:
single player crowd seems to think it’s more enjoyable to go around Sardegna for the 394th time winning against bots by a minute despite below par skill.

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Intrigued as to why. Mind expanding?
  1. Variety of vehicles: while the best choices for Sardegna and Le Mans are race cars (older ones too, those that get killed by BOP), each race is perfectly doable in almost any kind of car (apart from the electric ones) you can drive in this game. I like not being forced to drive a specific kind of vehicle (perhaps the most effective) and still be able to win and most importantly earn credits that fund my never-ending playground sandbox. You can of course race any car in Sport/Online too, but I just don't feel like it's as rewarding trying to offset the disparity with raw skill as you would in other pvp games
  2. More relaxed environment: In Sport mode everyone is (rightfully so) competing for the win, and I happen to play this game while doing other stuff in the mean time and it'd be impossible for me to do the same while racing online.
  3. I'm not much interested in wheel to wheel racing: while it's good to get some I'm mostly here to build cars and test them out and just drive. I do like racing with Sophy or being put at a huge disadvantage with the AI or the Chili pepper races but most of the times I just want to drive the cars I built and getting paid at the same time.
  4. Trivially, being able to pause. My free time is very flexible and I'm a huge fan of being able to just put my PS5 in rest mode and get back to my race when I wake up the console again. Goes without saying that If i wanted to race online i'd have to make sure I'm not gonna quit it or my ratings are gonna drop or whatever happens when you quit one.
  5. Probably the weakest point, but it's fair to add this in my opinion: I've always played GT for its singleplayer content, always used to grind the good, high-paying races and sometimes even replayed through the career or licenses just because I felt like it. It's similar to people going NG+ and levelling up in souls-like games instead of dipping into the PVP. PVP is better in other racing games IMO but that's a discussion for another topic probably.
I'm not the most skilled player out there but i've golded every license in GT7 for the matter. PVP is just not my thing, i've tried getting into it with GT Sport but I like SP more.
 
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Crazy how in over 3 yrs PD hasnt been able to balance modern racing cars and the daily / meme cars that the series has had always. See forza motorsport, they got a bunch of the latest racing cars while also having a lot of meme cars. Why pd can't? Thats the matter. Hope they fix it in GT8. Seems like pd is bipolar. They advertise the GTWS every ****ing chance they got, yet they race with 10 year old cars. And in the next update they add an Volkswagen Caddy, Opel Corsa 1.2 and an base 206. (Just an example) And im not even commenting about the fact that we dont even have an single M5 yet two different s13s. Or an single RS3,4,5,6,7. Not one.
 
Crazy how in over 3 yrs PD hasnt been able to balance modern racing cars and the daily / meme cars that the series has had always. See forza motorsport, they got a bunch of the latest racing cars while also having a lot of meme cars. Why pd can't? Thats the matter. Hope they fix it in GT8. Seems like pd is bipolar. They advertise the GTWS every ****ing chance they got, yet they race with 10 year old cars. And in the next update they add an Volkswagen Caddy, Opel Corsa 1.2 and an base 206. (Just an example) And im not even commenting about the fact that we dont even have an single M5 yet two different s13s. Or an single RS3,4,5,6,7. Not one.
Forza pumps out subpar vehicles that are inaccurate in a multitude of different ways. Same with the tracks. Not to mention the laughably bad physics. If you want that, fine, go play that. PD has a MUCH higher standard for modelling vehicles/tracks, and it takes a long time to do so. I would rather have top quality than the subpar offerings over at Forza Motorsport. So, no they probably won't "fix it for GT8", as it's not necessarily broken.
 
Forza pumps out subpar vehicles that are inaccurate in a multitude of different ways. Same with the tracks. Not to mention the laughably bad physics. If you want that, fine, go play that. PD has a MUCH higher standard for modelling vehicles/tracks, and it takes a long time to do so. I would rather have top quality than the subpar offerings over at Forza Motorsport. So, no they probably won't "fix it for GT8", as it's not necessarily broken.
Yes, thats true. Forza cars are worse in terms of quality. Maybe the word isnt "fix" maybe it is improve. That doesnt invalidate my point, they got 3 years where they choosed to add some cars that we cant even race. To be fair, all of us should be grateful for free updates and stop saying "ohh i would prefer to pay dlc"
 
Yes, thats true. Forza cars are worse in terms of quality. Maybe the word isnt "fix" maybe it is improve. That doesnt invalidate my point, they got 3 years where they choosed to add some cars that we cant even race. To be fair, all of us should be grateful for free updates and stop saying "ohh i would prefer to pay dlc"
I don't get how can anyone like FM in 2025. But yeah you've hit the point perfectly. Forza looks worse than even GT3, and that was a 2001 game!
 
Everyone who is asking for the same generic GT3 cars fail to mention that they won't even be used if they aren't the meta cars. I don't even play Sport mode and even I know 90% of players just use the same meta cars.
 
And im not even commenting about the fact that we dont even have an single M5 yet two different s13s. Or an single RS3,4,5,6,7. Not one.
Huh, looks like a wishlist... If only there was a thread for listing cars you wish for...
Oh look.
Forza looks worse than even GT3
Yeah, Forza vs GT is dumb at the best of times, but when you're making up stuff like this it doesn't do anyone any good. FM2023, generally, looks about a half-step behind GT7 - sometimes closer, sometimes a little further, sometimes quite a bit further with the older assets that are being addressed - but not a quarter of a century out.

Pack it in.
 
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Huh, looks like a wishlist... If only there was a thread for listing cars you wish for...
Oh look.
Not particularly an wishlist. Its an example of an nameplate that in pretty much all its generations its a engineering masterpiece. And in an game like GT7, which represents car culture, it should appear.
 

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