Gran Turismo - Open World Freeroam? (Read OP)

[Griffith500]

You know what isn't fun? Simulating real world driving with real world speed limits and real world traffic laws. If I want to do that, I'll step out of my front door. In a game I want to let loose, drive cars to the limits that I could only dream of owning. I don't want to take a Ferrari 599 and drive along a country road at 60mph, neither clearly do the majority of people that buy car games.

It is daft to be talking about so-called "hardcore players" in such absolutes, but I do think it's important to remember that no one person has the definitive notion of what constitutes "fun".

If you don't think it'd be fun to obey the traffic laws (and honestly, it's something I struggle to do in games, given the lack of feeling of "locality" largely) then I guess you don't have to involve yourself with that. Personally, I'd like those same areas to be deserted of traffic, so I can just amble about without worrying about other idiots getting in my way.

So long as there's a possibility for the rules of the road not to be enforced or punished, I can't see the harm. I'm also not sold on the social side, or the MMO-like aspects that some people are referring to, but I'm not the one making the game.

I just want a massive, sprawling, unending network of interconnected driving roads to keep me entertained, with some sense of distance covered and actually going somewhere (i.e. changes in scenery.)

 

[mangina]

For your imformation Mr. I have no imagination. You never know, PD might make a free roam mode for GT6. Maybe or maybe not, I'll like to try and make the free roam idea as realistic as possible.

I agree with the "maybe, maybe not" part of your post - but how are you going to make this "idea" as realistic as possible? Are you part of the PD development team, whose ideas, excuse me -other peoples ideas (since you have no imagination); may or may not be included in the final game? You are discussing ( occasionally in great detail) something which probably does not and never will exist, and that you have absolutely no control over. Why?

 

[thelvynau]

I agree with the "maybe, maybe not" part of your post - but how are you going to make this "idea" as realistic as possible? Are you part of the PD development team, whose ideas, excuse me -other peoples ideas (since you have no imagination); may or may not be included in the final game? You are discussing ( occasionally in great detail) something which probably does not and never will exist, and that you have absolutely no control over. Why?

Because its fun?

 

[JBanton]

To be honest I've lost hope in free-roam now, the mods are against it.The feedback link is getting no votes plus there doesn't really seem to be much interest any more

 

[another_jakhole]

To be honest I've lost hope in free-roam now, the mods are against it.The feedback link is getting no votes plus there doesn't really seem to be much interest any more

Either I forgot about that or I didn't know that it existed. And the fact that there isn't constant talk and all that doesn't mean people have lost interest with the feature.

I waunt it.

 

[JBanton]

Either I forgot about that or I didn't know that it existed. And the fact that there isn't constant talk and all that doesn't mean people have lost interest with the feature.

I waunt it.

The link is now lost in the thread because it's been merged with an old one. As you'll notice I'm no longer the thread starter, even though I've been putting a lot of effort into free-roam inclusion

 

[another_jakhole]

The link is now lost in the thread because it's been merged with an old one. As you'll notice I'm no longer the thread starter, even though I've been putting a lot of effort into free-roam inclusion

I preferred your thread since there were people making posts that are still regulars on GTP.

I hope I can edit this then http://feedback.gtplanet.net/forums/96709-gt5-feedback/suggestions/2751188-additional-free-roam

Here's the post of the feedback link.

 

[JBanton]

I preferred your thread since there were people making posts that are still regulars on GTP.


Here's the post of the feedback link.

Thanks, I guess I have no choice but to sort of go on a spamming run if I'm to keep the free-roam dream alive.

 

[TokoTurismo]

I agree with the "maybe, maybe not" part of your post - but how are you going to make this "idea" as realistic as possible? Are you part of the PD development team, whose ideas, excuse me -other peoples ideas (since you have no imagination); may or may not be included in the final game? You are discussing ( occasionally in great detail) something which probably does not and never will exist, and that you have absolutely no control over. Why?

Didn't you by any chance read my last post, where I put obeying the speed limit (maybe boring for some others ) and driver's test? Guess you didn't since you're saying (how I'm going to make this idea realistic as possible.)

The sad thing is this is GT. Because its known for being based on track racing, theres sadly no way free roam can be added and I know it won't. It'll never happen since "some" others (such as you) who doesn't want it nor isn't intrested in it because you believe it'll make GT something different, which it won't because it does have a title saying. (The Real DRIVING Simulator.)

No I'm not part of PD's team but I try to make ideas like these fun and intresting for others to like, like everyone here who're intrested in free roam also sharing their ideas too, because sometimes racing or cruising on track becomes less intresting and a bit of bordom. I not wanting any no control over this, but hey, I'll aways like to think up ideas for it whenever I'm bored, cuz its inspiring and it'll gain lots of interest.

Edit: I know you like this idea. Come on, say it. I know you'll agree with having a free roam would be awesome. You can do this in real life too, but that wouldn't be interesting as you crusie with your friends in your dream cars you'll probably never own in the real world.

My idea is too make this free roam an all new GT Life mode. That's what I'm after and wanting to have for GT6 but its maybe to late... Oh well.

 

[another_jakhole]

Thanks, I guess I have no choice but to sort of go on a spamming run if I'm to keep the free-roam dream alive.

So long as you "revise" and come up with ANY new ideas, please, keep this thread going. Like you said, you contributed a lot to your original thread, so why give up?


There was this sound tunnel in Fifth Gear I saw once that was made specifically to augment the sound of the exhaust. Little additions like this in a free-roam map would be great. Underground tunnels
I tried finding that episode, because the drive through the tunnel was a reward for someone, but it wasn't the right episode I was thinking of.

It was being "considered" for GT5 so it's possible that they've had a head start on it for the next GT.

This is something people quite often don't seem to get about PD. They appear to have a list of features they want, and they plug away at them as prototypes until they're "good enough", at which point they'll convert them to work in whichever game is being made at that time. What that means is that certain features can be in development for multiple iterations of the games before actually making it out into the light of day, e.g. weather.

Having this long-term development scheme is good, because you effectively have unlimited computing power and enough time to just throw things together and see if they work. What doesn't, gets axed or sidelined; what does, gets refined to the point it can be included.
It's bad because you're not necessarily planning for certain features, and your development timeline is far less rigid. Unexpected difficulties can delay a game if a certain feature is already implemented into its core, or there can be obvious disparity between a collection of features and a complete game set around those features.

It's riskier, probably more expensive, but in the long run you get a lot of nice goodies out of it, especially with iteration.

👍

quoted for the truth

 

[1241Penguin]

Seems like I'm the only idiot that likes obeying traffic laws in open-word games.

And it's not to say that you're following the rules the entire time, you might occasionally do some street racing. Compared to games like NFS where you're constantly breaking the rules.

 

[JBanton]

Seems like I'm the only idiot that likes obeying traffic laws in open-word games.

And it's not to say that you're following the rules the entire time, you might occasionally do some street racing. Compared to games like NFS where you're constantly breaking the rules.

Post 302 gave the idea that there was no population besides GT players, meaning that we made the rules, meaning that we could speed as much as we like and it wouldn't be illegal.

 

[1241Penguin]

So, what, all GT players in one server? Would be hard to control any 10 year olds.

If not, chances are that there will be only 16 guys running around. What fun would that be?

 

[Earth]

Seems like I'm the only idiot that likes obeying traffic laws in open-word games.

And it's not to say that you're following the rules the entire time, you might occasionally do some street racing. Compared to games like NFS where you're constantly breaking the rules.

In a video game I want to do things I cant do in real life. I obey traffic laws and dont speed every day. Im not interested in doing that in a game when I do it every day.

 

[1241Penguin]

You don't speak for everyone. 💡

 

[JBanton]

So, what, all GT players in one server? Would be hard to control any 10 year olds.

If not, chances are that there will be only 16 guys running around. What fun would that be?

🤬 no

That would be horrible, I think I might have nightmares now

16 player lobbies is probably all the ps3 and peripherals will be able to handle properly. GTA IV & EFLC had 16 as the max and is still very fun.

 

[mikecustom]

Askiing for a free roam mode in GT is like asking for realistic physics for NFS games, whats the point?, some people seriously need to wake up

 

[Theace37]

Askiing for a free roam mode in GT is like asking for realistic physics for NFS games, whats the point?, some people seriously need to wake up

Bingo

 

[1241Penguin]

Askiing for a free roam mode in GT is like asking for realistic physics for NFS games, whats the point?, some people seriously need to wake up

Hmm... I'd love to hear your reasoning on this.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Askiing for a free roam mode in GT is like asking for realistic physics for NFS games, whats the point?, some people seriously need to wake up

I am honestly sick and tired of hearing comments like these. The hell can't you explain as to why can't GT could at least have a small free roam mode in a small city, instead of saying "ITS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN BLAH BLAH BLAH." All the time. It may not happen yes, but than why Kaz himself said he wanted one? Do you have anything to say about that?

Tell me several reasons why GT can't have free roam, and don't be so typical saying "its a racing game or free roam is for arcade racers, or even say go outside and drive there instead." I got a good one. Why does it clearly say "DRIVING" between REAL and SIMULATOR in the title below Gran Turismo, instead of RACING?

If no one can give me any good answers at all, then you obviously can't hand out any good reasons or explanations and really need to shut up...

 

[thelvynau]

I am honestly sick and tired of hearing comments like these. The hell can't you explain as to why can't GT could at least have a small free roam mode in a small city, instead of saying "ITS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN BLAH BLAH BLAH." All the time. It may not happen yes, but than why Kaz himself said he wanted one? Do you have anything to say about that?

Tell me several reasons why GT can't have free roam, and don't be so typical saying "its a racing game or free roam is for arcade racers, or even say go outside and drive there instead." I got a good one. Why does it clearly say "DRIVING" between REAL and SIMULATOR in the title below Gran Turismo, instead of RACING?

If no one can give me any good answers at all, then you obviously can't hand out any good reasons or explanations and really need to shut up...

this +1

 

[Gabtremblay]

i am honestly sick and tired of hearing comments like these. The hell can't you explain as to why can't gt could at least have a small free roam mode in a small city, instead of saying "its never going to happen blah blah blah." all the time. It may not happen yes, but than why kaz himself said he wanted one? Do you have anything to say about that?

Tell me several reasons why gt can't have free roam, and don't be so typical saying "its a racing game or free roam is for arcade racers, or even say go outside and drive there instead." i got a good one. Why does it clearly say "driving" between real and simulator in the title below gran turismo, instead of racing?

If no one can give me any good answers at all, then you obviously can't hand out any good reasons or explanations and really need to shut up...

+2

 

[mangina]

I am honestly sick and tired of hearing comments like these. The hell can't you explain as to why can't GT could at least have a small free roam mode in a small city, instead of saying "ITS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN BLAH BLAH BLAH." All the time. It may not happen yes, but than why Kaz himself said he wanted one? Do you have anything to say about that?

Tell me several reasons why GT can't have free roam, and don't be so typical saying "its a racing game or free roam is for arcade racers, or even say go outside and drive there instead." I got a good one. Why does it clearly say "DRIVING" between REAL and SIMULATOR in the title below Gran Turismo, instead of RACING?

If no one can give me any good answers at all, then you obviously can't hand out any good reasons or explanations and really need to shut up...

Uh for the same reasons they didn't make all the cars premium, or include all the tracks from previous versions. Unless you want your free roam world to look like a pice of shart, Im guessing there simply isnt the processing power, disk space, time or inclination to include such a feature over and above what the game is really all about. It doesn't matter if I want it or not. I have no control over it and discussing it such great detail (more than just a yes or no answer) is pointless although possibly inevitable. Let's just remember we have no control over what will and what won't be in the final version. Otherwise some of you might be severely disappointed when your expected features are absent.
Is it too early to start a "what's wrong with GT6" thread?

 

[thelvynau]

Uh for the same reasons they didn't make all the cars premium, or include all the tracks from previous versions. Unless you want your free roam world to look like a pice of shart, Im guessing there simply isnt the processing power, disk space, time or inclination to include such a feature over and above what the game is really all about. It doesn't matter if I want it or not. I have no control over it and discussing it such great detail (more than just a yes or no answer) is pointless although possibly inevitable. Let's just remember we have no control over what will and what won't be in the final version. Otherwise some of you might be severely disappointed when your expected features are absent.
Is it too early to start a "what's wrong with GT6" thread?

I dont see a problem with discussing it in detail this forum would be pretty boring if it was just wish list threads and yes and no answers.

Isnt it what a forum is about? discussing things or putting across your ideas and opinions?

 

[ICEYOU]

Well as long as we're able to run over civilians like in Midnight Club 2 I'm okay with it.

 

[goukipau]

NO, the real driving simulator, so NO!

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Well as long as we're able to run over civilians like in Midnight Club 2 I'm okay with it.

You're really making enemies, bud. Asking people to change things that they like, and replacing them with silly ideas will always do that.


If you enjoy running people over, maybe Gran Turismo 6 isn't the game for you. I've heard that Grand Theft Auto V is coming out. That will be a much better fit, for someone who wants to run people over.

 

[ICEYOU]

Well as long as we're able to run over civilians like in Midnight Club 2 I'm okay with it.

You're really making enemies, bud. Asking people to change things that they like, and replacing them with silly ideas will always do that.


If you enjoy running people over, maybe Gran Turismo 6 isn't the game for you. I've heard that Grand Theft Auto V is coming out. That will be a much better fit, for someone who wants to run people over.

Relax I'm just bluffing.lol

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Relax I'm just bluffing.lol

As you were on the NASCAR 2012 thread? It doesn't take much, to find whether someone's trolling, on GTPlanet, because every post you make is archived. I don't believe that you're taking any of our discussions seriously.

 

[1241Penguin]

Uh for the same reasons they didn't make all the cars premium, or include all the tracks from previous versions. Unless you want your free roam world to look like a pice of shart, Im guessing there simply isnt the processing power, disk space, time or inclination to include such a feature over and above what the game is really all about.

Because unlike content (versus features), a free roam mode has the potential of actually improving the game. All you're doing when you add cars, or even motorcycles for that matter, is wasting your time because if the content can't be put to good use, you may as well have 100 cars as opposed to 1000.