Gran Turismo Spec IV Thread: Autumn Ring, Sugo Circuit, and More

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Did someone say drift battle????? Our M5 time is now!!!!!!

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I think You are definitely overdoing it, mate. I am grateful and always was. Check my earlier comments before you are going to pass your judgement. And also I was not criticizing it, never said it is bad as I am sure that for someone it is good. I merely said that I am not excited about this specific update and what is wrong with that? You might not like something but it doesnt make you negative or not grateful.
This is clearly not me on a Friday night lol!!! :D

 
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I think You are definitely overdoing it, mate. I am grateful and always was. Check my earlier comments before you are going to pass your judgement. And also I was not criticizing it, never said it is bad as I am sure that for someone it is good. I merely said that I am not excited about this specific update and what is wrong with that? You might not like something but it doesnt make you negative or not grateful.
Deciding you're not excited for two new tracks because you do not know them, is jumping the gun a bit. And the cars also do not interest you either. It doesn't matter what you posted previously. You outlook is negative. And you've posted on an open forum where me others have the right to comment on it. I guess we won't be seeing your opinion posted on the matter once both DLC's are available, as you're adamant it's not for you, already.

Ciao! ✌🏼
 
Excitement is a prediction; gratitude is a disposition — conflating the two isn’t insight, it’s just impatience wearing wisdom’s coat. You’re asking me to reserve judgment on tracks I haven’t seen, while reserving none on a person you don’t know. That’s not a small inconsistency — it’s the whole argument, working against itself. And you’ve made it on an open forum, where, as you rightly pointed out, everyone’s free to notice. Ciao!

Deciding you're not excited for two new tracks because you do not know them, is jumping the gun a bit. And the cars also do not interest you either. It doesn't matter what you posted previously. You outlook is negative. And you've posted on an open forum where me others have the right to comment on it. I guess we won't be seeing your opinion posted on the matter once both DLC's are available, as you're adamant it's not for you, already.

Ciao! ✌🏼
 
The concierge service sounds like a way to "schedule" a purchase of a car in LCD or UCD, so you don't have to be there when it comes up in the rotation. I guess it's a way to resolve some of the FOMO. Kinda funny how they keep stripping all the dumb roadblocks for car purchases they introduced at launch. First the invites, now this. Not that I'm complaining.
Looks like we can’t, but it would be great if we could select the number of the same car we want to buy.
May be :

Mazda Roadster RF VS '18
Lexus Sport Concept '25
I was thinking December would bring the GNX as a car from the USA and the 500 E from Europe. Leaving one car open while the final three being Super GT cars. That’s me dreaming though.

I also thought about the Ascari circuit since he has all the cars currently in the game on the shelves.

30th Anniversary smells like Mid-field will finally be added. That’s circuit would be glorious in GT7.
 
Excitement is a prediction; gratitude is a disposition — conflating the two isn’t insight, it’s just impatience wearing wisdom’s coat. You’re asking me to reserve judgment on tracks I haven’t seen, while reserving none on a person you don’t know. That’s not a small inconsistency — it’s the whole argument, working against itself. And you’ve made it on an open forum, where, as you rightly pointed out, everyone’s free to notice. Ciao!
Not like they're two original never seen before tracks though. One is a real driver's track, real racing pedigree, amazing to drive in the rare sim it pops up in - and Autumn Ring is a hood classic with a fantastic original layout. They're out there already for you to go and delve into if you so desire.
 
Do not read too much into my „not excited”. Lets say these are not my first choice if I could, but never said it will be bad. Maybe it is a language thing and English is not my first. But when I hear someone is „not excited”, I do not see it negative. It is just some things make people click and some not. Not all tracks in GT7 I like, but I tace them all. Appreciate a good explanation, thought:-)

Not like they're two original never seen before tracks though. One is a real driver's track, real racing pedigree, amazing to drive in the rare sim it pops up in - and Autumn Ring is a hood classic with a fantastic original layout. They're out there already for you to go and delve into if you so desire.
 
I can imagine GT8 being revealed during the SoP and then Kaz hosting a few minute long deep dive in the Japanese version.

Maybe unpopular opinion but I don't think Spec IV is ever happening at this point. Spec III had good marketing and generated hype for the game but barely introduced anything new feature wise.
This post aged well... :lol:
If I’m reading the signs right I think it will…
By reading the signs, did you mean reading all of Jordan's hints over the last few weeks ? :lol:
This is the discussion thread for an article on GTPlanet:

Gran Turismo 7 Spec IV: Autumn Ring, Sugo Circuit, 12 Cars, Shuffle Racing, and More

As revealed in today’s PlayStation State of Play, Kazunori Yamauchi has announced the next major update for Gran Turismo 7: Spec IV. The update is so large it will arrive in two parts, this October and December.
Got that article out quickly @Jordan 👍
Almost like you knew what was coming ;) :lol:
I can‘t think of any other game that just keeps getting better and better as time goes on.

Like a good whisky! 😂
Many recent driving games have had a tendency to improve after release due to GAAS (not to mention some are barebones at release cough FM23 cough). The Crew Motorfest is about to have a big year 4 improvement judging by the leaks. PMR, Rennsport etc all improved since release. Even TDUSC had improved prior to the latest Season 7 disaster.
 
That's what it sounded like to me. Which surprises me, I bet it's more memorable to most people than the full version. But I guess it doesn't fit with the current car list....
I have a glimmer of hope that, because all of the images used in the announcement seem to be of autumn ring mini, that when Kaz says original layout, this is referring to mini, and that the larger layout is a reworking of the old track with the spiral as this would fit with making original circuits more practical. I imagine that’s misplaced hope though.
 
What is shuffle racing btw? Not a gran turismo 5 player.
It was essentially PD’s first go at an online matchmaking system, but it was only a game mode in the Lobby area. Basically you set a performance window and a track and the game would pick a selection of stock cars from GT5’s massive roster that would be randomly assigned to everyone in the lobby, and could reset or reassign on the next race.

The fantastic bit about it was the customizability - you could shrink or widen the performance range for a closer or wider spread of speeds, and set the selection based on the previous race’s finishing order, which quickly cycles slower cars to more skilled players, and faster cars to newbies, and you could basically tune it to the skill level of the lobby. Then you could go so far as to let it randomize the track selection, and auto start on a timer, so you’re given a random car, a few minutes of practice time, and then dive in and see if you could figure out your car better than the others. I have vivid memories of people being deathly afraid of getting assigned the Shelby Cobra, which was one of the hardest cars to control back then.

Due to its simplicity it was super quick to just open a lobby and go, and adjust its parameters based on how people were feeling. Nothing like now where we have to wait a week for the 3 sport mode combos to cycle, you can just pick from the full track list on the fly, or just let it randomize.

Ok but december has 21 days of Autumn and we don't know the day the update will come.

And are we asking the update to come the exact day the leaves will look like that? C'mon.
If we get Autumn Ring in the final week of December I’ll be pissed. In fact, if we get Winter Ring in April, Spring Ring in July, and Summer Ring next October I’m gonna riot.
 
I would not be opposed to big Spec type updates once a year. For all GT games going forward. And in the meantime it's mostly cars and world circuits/single player events. I also wouldn't mind getting smaller/fewer feature updates that are more common over the year. It is fun though when we all get excited about a big update.
 
Excitement is a prediction; gratitude is a disposition — conflating the two isn’t insight, it’s just impatience wearing wisdom’s coat. You’re asking me to reserve judgment on tracks I haven’t seen, while reserving none on a person you don’t know. That’s not a small inconsistency — it’s the whole argument, working against itself. And you’ve made it on an open forum, where, as you rightly pointed out, everyone’s free to notice. Ciao!
You be as condescending and aloof as you like and get high on your words, but I made no judgement on you as a person in any of my previous comments, but just commented on your opinions on the two tracks that were revealed. You having a lack of anticipation or excitement for something is negative. You can rightly comment on anything I posted. I didn't comment anything to the contrary of that. So don't think you're getting one up on me in that respect. It's extremely puzzling for someone who has no excitement for this new update that you still are hovering around here trying to dice your words. Surely you can join a forum on a subject you're excited about? Or maybe you're just bored and enjoy the attention by trying to stand out by giving a divisive and I'll repeat, negative opinion.

I'm happy and looking forward to this update. Hope you find a game or game content that you can feel the same for, as you've made it clear on a number of occasions that it's not GT7 Spec IV. But the only way you'll be able to do that if you actually try instead of hovering like a dark cloud over this post.

And here's another term you can use, since you have no imagination of your own: Au revoir!
 
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or there's British autumn, which is usually just a couple of weeks in October before winter sets in :nervous:
Looking at Britain from Finland, I'd say you only have autumn between summer and spring..
 
Can't wait to give the shuffle races a try. Never played GT5 but have seen them on YouTube and they look great fun (especially as most lobbies are 90% the same car on sport mode.)

Also, I was very interested in the wording regarding Autumn Ring:

'You can race Autumn Ring with it's original layout and scenery faithfully recreated. We've also expanded the track into a larger scale racing circuit. So you can race it the way you always have, or experience it as a much larger circuit that offers a variety of new ways to drive. These are the two course layouts available.'

Seems like it'll be Autumn Ring Mini + Autumn Ring OR There'll be two locations like Sardegna Road circuit and Sardegna Windmills (rally). That's my take on it anyway. Really curious to see what he means by 'new ways to drive.'
 
Forgive me if someone has mentioned it but interesting when he says the celebrations for the milestone year start with the Spec IV update, does make me wonder what 2027 will be like for updates.

Until then, very exciting looking update and cant wait to see the interesting predictions for the other 6 cars too!
 
You don’t really know. I wouldn’t talk so bad about users of ps+.
Me not being interested in PS+ at the moment should in no way imply, that i would have any reason to talk bad about it's users.

My comment was not meant cynical. A company has a reason that playtime gets more and more important and it's money. Of what use would it be for Polyphony/Sony to have so many ongoing players if not that some of them use microtransactions and many use PS+ and the ongoing media content still attracts some new buyers. Without that the many hours people sink into GT7 would even be a bad thing as it would block people from investing in more PlayStation games.
 
Loved getting caught off guard by this announcement this morning. Loved the "but wait, there's more!" feeling as well as everybody noticed new details like "the next evolution of Sophy," the new car collector cap, etc.

Random thoughts:
- Both tracks are AWESOME because they're so out of left field. Sugo is awesome because when has it ever been featured in a (sim) racing game apart from 3rd party mods? Autumn Ring will look incredible in its remastered form.

- The first 6 cars are slightly underwhelming if only because previous "Spec" updates had so many classics like the LFA, FTO, Espace F1, 296 GT3, 911 GT3 etc. We already knew of the Mazda GT3 Evo and the Xiaomi VGT, the minivan and the 2CV are cute but novelties, the Civic is cool but also a lone wolf race car. Don't mistake this as a complaint, but maybe this means they're saving a few bangers for the 2nd half of update?

- Seems the "vintage" dealership will allow us to see all colors on the used/legendary cars without having to do the livery editor trick?

- Curious about the logistics of the "concierge." Do we get the car right away, after a few days, or when it shows up in the regular rotation? And can Stephanie source cars in a particular color or is that getting too greedy?

- Will the new collector cap mean we'll finally stop with the stupid 5,000cr and 10,000cr daily workout tickets?

- Wonder what the next evolution of Sophy looks like. We're almost caught up on Custom Race car compatibility; will they add a wave of new tracks? More work on pit strategies and endurance driving? No more rubber banding?
 
Me not being interested in PS+ at the moment should in no way imply, that i would have any reason to talk bad about it's users.

My comment was not meant cynical. A company has a reason that playtime gets more and more important and it's money. Of what use would it be for Polyphony/Sony to have so many ongoing players if not that some of them use microtransactions and many use PS+ and the ongoing media content still attracts some new buyers. Without that the many hours people sink into GT7 would even be a bad thing as it would block people from investing in more PlayStation games.
Well, they realeased GT7 and used the occasion to celebrate the franchise's 25th anniversary

We're approaching the 30th and this update will "kick off the celebrations", so it's easy to speculate the culmination being a new entry in the series, it does sound fitting
 
No. I really do not like this BMW:-) My fav is the one I had:-)

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Had so hopefully that means you sold it for an E39 M5? :sly:

Funny that I got on this weird kick last weekend to make a spreadsheet of cars I think they should add to GT7. I was tired of always thinking of cars, being amazed they still don't have something, then forgetting about it, rinse repeat. I spent hours putting the list together (it's about 195 cars) and it was enjoyable and felt completely useless at the same time. While doing it, I was very surprised that most of them were already in GT2/4/6 and I'd forgotten. I'd share the link if I didn't think Famine would get mad at me and tell me to go vote on cars lol I've done that! It doesn't feel like it's helping.

Anyway, one of the cars I put on the list was this V10 M5. I've never been a fan of it but it felt like it deserves to be here. Maybe my list is manifesting. Although, based on the other 5 cars.. eh, not so much.

E39 M5 pleeeeeease!

I'm also more inclined to believe in a GT8 announcement next year now. With the current state of the industry, hardware costs, etc.. They really just need to make a hard cut off of PS4 support and then focus on PS5 which will then just cross-gen into PS6 for sure. They didn't make GT7 a PS5 exclusive even back then in that market, and now it seems far worse and highly doubt they'd make GT8 exclusive to some $1000+ console people can't afford. Calling it GT8 would just be a formality. GT7 is pretty great as is. More new content and features is excellent. If they actually want to redo the single player structure, then launching something called GT8 thats still based on GT7 is fine.

PS5 Pro is still perfectly fine and looks great. Don't need new hardware. Don't need PD to reinvent the wheel with even more photorealistic looking cars. Essentially GT8 just needs to be a big Spec V update where they redo the single player structure.
 
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Can't wait to give the shuffle races a try. Never played GT5 but have seen them on YouTube and they look great fun (especially as most lobbies are 90% the same car on sport mode.)

Also, I was very interested in the wording regarding Autumn Ring:

'You can race Autumn Ring with it's original layout and scenery faithfully recreated. We've also expanded the track into a larger scale racing circuit. So you can race it the way you always have, or experience it as a much larger circuit that offers a variety of new ways to drive. These are the two course layouts available.'

Seems like it'll be Autumn Ring Mini + Autumn Ring OR There'll be two locations like Sardegna Road circuit and Sardegna Windmills (rally). That's my take on it anyway. Really curious to see what he means by 'new ways to drive.'
Maybe the translation of the “ways” are the new path choices? We can drive the longer configuration clockwise or counterclockwise. Won’t have long to find out.
 
Well, they realeased GT7 and used the occasion to celebrate the franchise's 25th anniversary

We're approaching the 30th and this update will "kick off the celebrations", so it's easy to speculate the culmination being a new entry in the series, it does sound fitting
I don't reeeeally see the connection to my posting. If you mean that players who play GT7 long time would be very likely to be consumers of the next title... yeah of course... but I don't have to play Witcher 3 for 11 years to be very much looking forward to Witcher 4. Players playing a game for an extended time period need to make the developer money, not with the next entry but the current one. Or it's not interesting for the developer and they would be a lot more focused to bringing more new titles faster and not supporting one for so many years.
 
Beautifully refined physics, new (and new old) circuits, an M5, Sophy updates, Shuffle Races and maybe a Porsche 928?!?!?!?!
Superbly written news splash @Jordan !! Bravo!!
And to Uncle Kaz, thank you my man. You just gave Christmas a magical shine and sparkle. You absolute beauty!!
 
Well it seems there listening, return of a original track (Autumn Ring) that seems to imply that it will stay close to it's original layout, but creating a alternate layout for modern needs. Car Viewer, with all the detail PD put into the cars, not being able to look around the garage cars was always something I felt lacking, instead we enter the garage and it starts a screen saver, I do hope they bring back 'get in car' to the garage menu, currently while in the garage you only want to look at a garage car, not get in it, but instead it puts you into the car, you have to got back to the car you where in and re-select it, frustrating. It is a surprise that it took almost 30 years to get Sugo into the game, it's been on wish lists for many years.
 
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