Gran Turismo Spec IV Thread: Autumn Ring, Sugo Circuit, and More

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To me the Espace F1 is definitely a legend but then I played GT2 a ton as a kid.

I am absolutely delighted about Autumn Ring returning, and in (allegedly) original form too. Out of all the original circuits in the GT franchise I wanted to see in GT7, Autumn Ring was top of my list.

SSR5 and Red Rock Valley next PD? 🥹

I'm guessing at least one of the remaining six cars will be blatant nostalgia bait. I would like to see the R390 most but I wouldn't object to the 88C-V or the Yellowbird. Now the car list is quite broad I'd like to see PD branch out a bit from their "all generations of the most iconic model" approach and add something like a Porsche 944 or Mitsubishi Starion - something a bit different.
 
Now the car list is quite broad I'd like to see PD branch out a bit from their "all generations of the most iconic model" approach and add something like a Porsche 944 or Mitsubishi Starion - something a bit different.
Here here! This is something that the game has sort of struggled with IMO, with many brands being carried by 1-2 model lines (911 for Porsche, Corvette/Camaro for Chevy, AMG GT for Mercedes, etc.)

Funny enough is despite this, some brands somehow escape this hole. Of course the JDM makes come to mind, but to me PD have done a really good job of diversifying the car lists of the French brands, and I'd like to see that level of variety and esotericness added to the other major auto makers.
 
Here here! This is something that the game has sort of struggled with IMO, with many brands being carried by 1-2 model lines (911 for Porsche, Corvette/Camaro for Chevy, AMG GT for Mercedes, etc.)

Funny enough is despite this, some brands somehow escape this hole. Of course the JDM makes come to mind, but to me PD have done a really good job of diversifying the car lists of the French brands, and I'd like to see that level of variety and esotericness added to the other major auto makers.
I agree.

As much as I love the addition of the M5, unfortunately, its competitors are missing — and probably won’t be added.

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I have a feeling the Yellowbird is going to be added in December for the following reasons:

1) It's a datamined car
2) It's historically significant
3) It's the perfect car for the whole anniversary thing.

I'd be pretty surprised if Spec IV doesn't contain such a popular car. Thinking the original R35 GT-R could also be in the update for the same reasons.
 
I have a feeling the Yellowbird is going to be added in December for the following reasons:

1) It's a datamined car
2) It's historically significant
3) It's the perfect car for the whole anniversary thing.

I'd be pretty surprised if Spec IV doesn't contain such a popular car. Thinking the original R35 GT-R could also be in the update for the same reasons.
And I would also add that PD collaborated on a event in Japan with RUF some months ago
 
And I would also add that PD collaborated on a event in Japan with RUF some months ago
Yes, and as I mentioned earlier, December will mark nine months since the event took place. That is the time required to model a car. If the Ruf Tribute is scheduled for December, it makes sense that we didn't see it in the trailer.


Edit : The car that won the GT300 category at Sugo GT 300km back in 2008 :

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Autobacs Garaiya GT300 '08 , on the datamined car list.

Also, just 8 months ago :


Just saying....
 
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I agree.

As much as I love the addition of the M5, unfortunately, its competitors are missing — and probably won’t be added.

2007-mercedes-benz-e63-amg-audi-s6-and-bmw-m5-photo-527639-s-986x603.jpg
Yeaaa.. bunch of sport saloons ended up on my wishlist. And, to my surprise, one of them piqued my interest enough that I'm already trying to go buy one.

W202 C43 AMG. The car was in GT2. The first AMG car built after they were brought in house by Mercedes-Benz (the W202 C36 AMG with the inline 6 was a joint project I believe?) The 4.3 was the all aluminum V8, 305 hp/305 tq. Sort've the basis for the DTM car at the time? I'd guess you know far more about it than me in the US. I can't believe how "cheap" they are relative to what they are. Also rare here in the States. It sounds like fairly reliable if maintained. Currently frustrated waiting on a loan approval :banghead:

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So yes, it makes total sense for the M5 to be added and there should be more like it. Less Hot Wheels looking fantasy cars. (Hot Wheels Unleashed 2, good game, go check it out)
 

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The track was opened in 1975 and is one of the largest motorsports facilities in Japan, with a total area of 2.1 million m². It offers four specialized race courses - a road racing course, a motocross course, a trials course, and a go-kart course. The track is owned by the Yamaha Motor Company. The total length is 3.704 km (2.302 mi) with the longest straight of 704.5 m (2,311 ft). Width is 10–12.5 m (33–41 ft) and has a total elevation change of 69.83 m (229.1 ft) per lap.



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One of the funny things to do with real world tracks in GT7 is to race different cars, same type or class, and including the 'outrageous' VGT cars to see how fast we drive a lap compared to real world times.
 
C63 W204 507 edition would be great too ! Unless they can’t get the sound right ! 😂🫣
They have the cobra close and some other ones but not all. Gotta love the gear whine in the Daytona though.
 
Know what's weird? No drag racing. I understand drifting is big, but drag racing online would be cool.
From type of cars to bone stock cars to full on built cars. The way drifting is a precision driving, so is drag racing. The staging and reflexes, throttle application and when applicable, shifting. Surprised PD haven't done more with it.

Something interesting I've been thinking about are Kaz' cars. Over the past games and updates, GT7 feature cars he's owned and still owns:
  • R32
  • 350Z
  • Ford GT
  • 996 GT3
  • FTO
  • S2000
  • Lancer Evo V
I don't know the years of the Corolla and Supra he's owned.

Two cars from past games are missing in GT7. The first R35 and the SL55 AMG.

The GT-R as mentioned more than a few times, is in the datamine, but the SL55 AMG hasn't been seen since GT6. Wonder if the AMG would make the car list this year or during next year's journey to the 30th anniversary.
 
Know what's weird? No drag racing. I understand drifting is big, but drag racing online would be cool.
From type of cars to bone stock cars to full on built cars. The way drifting is a precision driving, so is drag racing. The staging and reflexes, throttle application and when applicable, shifting. Surprised PD haven't done more with it.

Something interesting I've been thinking about are Kaz' cars. Over the past games and updates, GT7 feature cars he's owned and still owns:
  • R32
  • 350Z
  • Ford GT
  • 996 GT3
  • FTO
  • S2000
  • Lancer Evo V
I don't know the years of the Corolla and Supra he's owned.

Two cars from past games are missing in GT7. The first R35 and the SL55 AMG.

The GT-R as mentioned more than a few times, is in the datamine, but the SL55 AMG hasn't been seen since GT6. Wonder if the AMG would make the car list this year or during next year's journey to the 30th anniversary.
It is odd since majority of regular dudes racing in real life would be drag racing on the street. Not around a track. It also doesn’t seem like it’d be that hard to do. If they dropped a track editor/maker with a point A to B option it would get done.
 
I really hope that Spec IV would add at least some more Championships to the World Circuits mode.
Unfortunately I don't think that the career mode layout supports them enough to add more. They kind of closed that chapter with the current set, and it would have made such a great way to add a lot of new ones to help enjoy the new cars.

They could add them as missions though. There's a missing space there for new challenges but I think that is also something that should be expanded upon, or at least enable you to continue to make money off of them.
 
I could understand 'hopelessly waiting for Monaco or Silver Stone' but Sportsland Sugo??? I've never heard of the track.
It's part of the Super GT / Super Formula calendar and very unrepresented in games, think of note it's only been in the Project CARS games. I've been really hoping for it too, it's a great flow and length for GT7 and because it's not commonly used is something new for everyone.
 
Sugo is also in Ride 4, and maybe its successors, but I haven't got those.
 
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no b-spec no party
B-spec is mostly for grinding. Which means it's the payout problems for some gamers who don't spend a lot of time grinding, I think very few players thought it was really fun in GT4&GT5&GT6. If it is easy to implement, say a total of <50 coding hours, I wouldn't complain about it, but there's tens of other factors, options, and choices and changes to be had and which would really make GT7 great again!
 
It's part of the Super GT / Super Formula calendar and very unrepresented in games, think of note it's only been in the Project CARS games. I've been really hoping for it too, it's a great flow and length for GT7 and because it's not commonly used is something new for everyone.
I will rarely complain about a track if it’s pavement and has a decent flow. Eiger was a bit of a disappointment for me, but its flow is really not that great. You get used of tracks but I would have preferred many other originals over that one. When they announced it I got excited and then realized it was a different track that I was thinking of once it made its way to the game.

Unfortunately it sounds like Autumn Ring Mini isn’t going to make its way to GT7, only the original and the expanded. Sucks because that Mini track is great for karts and lower pp cars. We have two Spa circuit layouts that are identical despite pit and grid. But we can’t get both Autumn Ring layouts? I really hope they just forgot to mention it haha

Sugo, can’t remember it from Project Cars but that game had a lot of DIFFERENT tracks which was nice.
 
no b-spec no party
Super GT races at Sugo later this month. Wonder if we’ll get newer GT500’s perhaps?
I asked Kaz directly for a few of the newest {meaning newer than 2020} GT500/Super GT cars. Might get'em in December or in 2027? Not the best cars to ask for, but some cars are very difficult to be licensed and might be less popular among conventionalists, but PDI have good relation with the Japanese manufacturers [who participate in this class of race cars] so it should be less difficult wish to come true.
 
Do... do you think this actually had any bearing on anything?
There's some correlation & association. I think I maybe influenced if not convinced Kaz to do some improvements, that many players here & other social media sites also wanted. There's not much on the specifics, I guess it is rather framework aspects + some type & sort kinda thing, aka similarity factors. I think I'm the only one in the world [gaming world] who believes this, and I'm fine {& fun} with it.
 
There's some correlation & association. I think I maybe influenced if not convinced Kaz to do some improvements, that many players here & other social media sites also wanted. There's not much on the specifics, I guess it is rather framework aspects + some type & sort kinda thing, aka similarity factors. I think I'm the only one in the world [gaming world] who believes this, and I'm fine {& fun} with it.

I did the same to Lewis Hamilton. I tweeted him once to say he’d look good in red. Few years later, his driving for Ferrari.

Coincidence? I think not…
 
There's some correlation & association. I think I maybe influenced if not convinced Kaz to do some improvements, that many players here & other social media sites also wanted. There's not much on the specifics, I guess it is rather framework aspects + some type & sort kinda thing, aka similarity factors. I think I'm the only one in the world [gaming world] who believes this, and I'm fine {& fun} with it.
you should me admin
 
I think you are aiming at the wrong spot, as you are comparing Private/Community/League racing with a Public Ranked system.

Of course a well run community/league will have better races than being matched up against randoms, because with a community event you can set your own ground rules and have live stewards in every race, and eventually know which drivers are trustworthy or not .

In comparison, most public ranked online races, such as Sport Mode, iRacing, LMU etc. have to find a solution that can work for any driver, at any time, from anywhere, of any skill, without the guarantee that you can spare a real human being to officiate every lobby.

It's not even a issue limited to racing games, as public matchmaking lobbies in any game will inevitably have a wider range of quality. It's the risk you take when you throw a bunch of unrelated players with different objectives and abilities into a blender.

As someone who has plenty of Team Fortress 2 experience, I've run the gamut of public lobby quality. It's just something you have to deal with when you are participating in that kind of matchmaking
It's amazing how quickly we all forget. Until GT Sport, ALL rooms were run totally without any auto stewarding. That's a mere nine years ago. A lifetime maybe for a young teenager, but it seems like yesterday to those of us that have been playing GT (and other racing games) for decades.

It might, given where driving standards have gone in Sport Mode, be very difficult to imagine this, but once upon a time we used to have a MASSIVE user lobby system that was run by hosts. Yes, there were organized leagues, but of course, you had to race at their schedule, in their car and track choices. But the 'casual' lobbies weren't all wreckfest demolition derbies. How was that achieved?

Firstly, you titled your room. Clean, no rules, stock, tuners, Shuffle, whatever. Secondly, back before the horror of Spirt Mode, the de facto standard for clean racing was the GT Planet Online Rules (GTP OLR). And even there, in casual rooms, a bunch of the more league focused rules were ignored.

But the primary contact rules were easy to understand, and revolved around SELF stewarding. The rules usually expected the driver to return position for passing with contact, cutting track, forcing another driver off, etc.. Not a timed ghost penalty. Return position. Easy to understand, easy to serve. Flagrant violators got kicked and the lobby system blocked their re-entry for 24 hours (if the lobby stayed open that long!).

There were rules that governed defense (no weaving, no moving in the braking zone, one defensive move only) that are completely ignored in sport Mode and quite honestly, completely break any degree of realism to the sport of racing! It's like a soccer game that allows players to pick up the ball and throw it in the net... It might be a video game, but it sure as heck ain't soccer!

The real tragedy is that there is a new generation of sim racers that can't even CONCEIVE that a community could police themselves in casual lobbies and provide years of good clean racing. I can only assure you that we did. And I feel sorry for those so lost in the current travesty they can't see themselves doing it again.
 
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