GT Sport Driver Coaching

Discussion in 'Gran Turismo Sport' started by RaceFace85, Mar 20, 2018.

  1. vvise

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    here's yesterday's race, sorry the quality is really grainy. unusually bad internet yesterday.


    I drive 2/7 - 3 is a bit too heavy for my wrists, and 7 is about the sweetspot at that torque for telling the difference between different types of feedback (imo).


    For Gr3 cars try MR like the Ferrari, set a rear brake bias to raise the challenge.
     
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  2. RaceFace85

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    This is really a smooth work with the brake pedal! Unbelievable :bowdown:

    You must have a good control of your muscles.
     
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  3. vvise

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    you're still much faster than me but thank you.
     
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  4. RaceFace85

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    I don't think so. Your driving really looks great.

    I needed a longer break in GT Sport and lost some pace I think.
    The addiction to success was too extreme. I lost the fun and the focus what is really important in my life.
     
  5. schnick

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    Eyyy I use the same too, I bump up torque to 4 if I feel like a bit of a workout. Not as strong as other wheels but it's all relative.
    I also took a break after last year. Used the 2019 exhibition seasons to get back up to speed.
     
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  6. RaceFace85

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    Sometimes you need a break to get the fun back.
     
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  7. Alpha Cipher

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    I agree with you. I think having G29 pedals mean you just have to go about your braking in a different manner. When I tried out Thrustmaster pedals one time, I had difficulty braking smoothly since I got used to the rubber stopper.

    But still, I'd love me some GTEYE Springs given all the reviews I see for it are positive :D
    Here's a lap of mine from a while back

    Keeping up with the thread's title, advice is always appreciated!
     
  8. RaceFace85

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    There is not much to improve I think. You can cut the left entry corner of the first chicane much more.
     
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  9. dabz343

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    The best exercise to get our left foot in shape has been to drive using the left foot only--to build up the sensitivity and quickness. Frustrating/challenging at first, but you will be surprised how quickly improvements come.

    Btw, good to see RaceFace85 back here helping others, cheers!
     
  10. sdi_03

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    I have misplaced 2 sec also. I have T300RS wheel and G29 pedals with home made solid stoppers for brake and throttle. Shorter throw in both.
    I hit 50% brake when pedal touch the stopper, so basicly 50-100% is on the rubber stopper.
    I strugle with the turn in grip, that causes me not to hit late apex.
    Sample is qualy lap from this weeks race C

     
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  11. RaceFace85

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    You also have issues with the rubber buffer. Like you said you use the brake the most time at max or at 50% when you hit the buffer. This is exactly the same braking as in LeMoRis video. You are one like me, who can not handle the G29 brake pedal. This costs a lot of pace.
     
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  12. sdi_03

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    Removed the rubber stopper, was 2/10ths faster. I think that the improvement is bigger on slow cars. The braking distance was slightly smaller with out the rubber. Will need more practice for sure.
    I did modify the stopper and put it back there. Now its somewhere near 75% brake when pedal hits it. Made the feeling a bit better. Like it would be tru brake pedal
     
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  13. LeMoRi

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    Thank you (specially @RaceFace85 and @dabz343), your tips are being very helpful. I bought and installed the mod GTEYE lol It may be my impression but I think I'm being more consistent and faster, let's see:

    This is my first run: (I could get that same 1:30.0 (gr.3 at red bull) but far easier)



    I also tried Gr.4 daily and I could get a 1:54.029 (2.5s from top 10th) within a few laps (without looking at any replay to see where I can push harder):



    And just for fun I ran daily slow car of the week lol



    Anyway, I liked the exercise suggestions for improvement, things like take a gt3 ferrari put the brake bias all to rear and try to be smooth on brake release.

    If I know where I can work more (or be more conscious), like your braking smooth, your entry speed these stuffs I can try to pay attention or do some exercices to improve that, thank you.
     
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  14. RaceFace85

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    Thank you for your feedback. I saw, that you wanted to release the brake slowly but you couldn't. You knew how to do it right.

    Now with the new springs your braking is so much smoother and you have much less problems with understeering in corner entry.

    It looks really good!
     
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  15. thiago89q

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    Hi Christian, I did the video you suggested me to do. Some additional informations:

    - I'm using Logitech G29 wheel and pedals
    - The selected car is SLS AMG GT3
    - The video was recorded after 30 minutes of practice in the track
    - It's easy to identify that if take some additional minutes I can decrease one or two seconds on my time, however I guess the video is enough for you to identify my worst failures. If it's not, let me know and I'll prepare another one better

    Thanks in advance for the help.
    Thiago de Quadros

     
  16. RaceFace85

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    Hey, there is a problem with braking and you don't use the whole track where it is needed.

    When you look at your brake indication bar you can see that you release the brake instantly before the corner. You have to release the brake slowly until you reach the apex especially when you drive a car with a front engine. Releasing the brakes slowly and start steering should be done at the same time. You need the weight of your car on your front tyres when you turn in. You can also brake later with this technic. But this is not very easy with the plastic buffer of the G39 pedals. You can read a discussion about this issue above your post.

    The other problem is that you don't use the outside curbs at corner entry and sometimes you don't use the curbs at the inside. There is no need to lift the gas at the first corner of the bus stop chicane.

    Maybe you should train with default setup to see the difference because I think that you adjusted the setup of the car to match your driving style without braking into the corner.
     
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  17. thiago89q

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    Thanks for all the recommendations. I'll practice them for the next days and I'll share the results soon. They are extremely important to me. Thanks a lot!
     
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  18. Bivittavus88

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    This looks like a very handy little thread. Currently sat at 2:01.539 at Suzuka. Didn't save my replay, though. I'll crack on tonight, and better that time, then upload that video here. I'd like to get as close to a 2:00.000 as possible. But, can't figure out/see where I'm going to make 1.5s.
     
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  19. Jpelias305

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    What is your PSN i need help badly!!!
     
  20. RaceFace85

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    Please post a video of a lap here and we can talk about it.
     
  21. twitcher

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    The technique @RaceFace85 is describing is called Trail Braking. Here is a video about Trail Braking that explains things in more detail, maybe help you visualize what to aim for.



    The video is part 2 of a series that covers all aspects of the corner, from Initial Braking to Trail Braking, Apex, and Corner Exit, with an additional video to discuss some of the nuance of Chicanes with high curbs.
     
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  22. RaceFace85

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    Great video!
     
  23. Killrob

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    Hello! I'm a newbie to both the forums and Gran Turismo as a whole. Recently purchased the game (Collector's Edition :)), and I've only gone through the Driving School. So far, I am loving the game! I will admit I am a terrible driver, but I've golded all of the Driving School with some practice.

    I have extensive knowledge of the inner workings of a car and of handling characteristics, so I guess the theory is there, I just don't have the speed! :lol:

    If this thread is still active, I will upload a video today for @RaceFace85 to review and hopefully give me some good tips! Thanks in advance, hopefully I can do well in my first Sport Mode race; whenever I may do it. :cheers:
     
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  24. RaceFace85

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    You can upload it here and we can talk about the lap.
     
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  25. Killrob

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    Thank you. Still at work at the moment, but once I get home, I'll be sure to do just that! Cheers! :cheers:
     
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  26. Trone_Colby

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    Although this is an actual race, I wanna see how I can improve this. Depending on the track I’m usually 2-5 seconds behind the top 10. Here last time I checked I’m 5 seconds behind. I’m at 2:16.272 and top ten has 2:11 and change. I did hit a 2:16 once in this race. If this doesn’t help then I’ll share something else

     
  27. Vegard

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    Moar revs.

    You're short shifting like it's a fuel saving race. Try shifting at 7000.
     
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  28. Trone_Colby

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    I didn’t notice I was doing that. I guess its a habit.
     
  29. Vegard

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    TBF the shift lights are set too low in this car.
     
  30. Killrob

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    Here it is! A video of a lap, at last. And you´ll all think I´m a terrible driver and that is exactly what I am! :lol:
    It felt like a good lap for me at least, but let´s see what you guys who are more experienced think I can improve in. Cheers! :tup: