GT5 demo December 17 !

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SETWAVE
This is a quote about some bike tyres, but may also apply to car tyres on track and especially for a rwd car which the 370z happens to be...

"The main forces acting on a front tyre act in basically the opposite direction (braking) to those acting on a rear tyre (acceleration) therefore the primary tread grooves are arranged accordingly . By arranging the front pattern in this way the tyre gets much improved "even wear" characteristics, especiallly in high speed/circuit use. There is no deterioration in wet grip as a result, in fact , if anything, water drainage is improved."
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In this case there is no way wet weather performance would be any better, the grooves would channel water into the centre of the tyre. Also note on a Bike the rear brakes are hardly used and when they're much less than the front.
 
R1600Turbo
GT isn't really what it is because of us or the general public. It is what it is because of Kaz. I for one see no problem with the tread being backwards. Just people being nit-picky.
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i for two agree with you and see no problem...

There may be actually a reason for everything... if what SETWAVE found is right, PD would have done something that few of us knew about...
With their racing knowledge, they might have been even more accurate than us fools :p

I guess we are all so anxious :scared: and hungry :drool: for GT5 information, we have become so needy :dopey: and neat-picky 💡.
 
SETWAVE
This is a quote about some bike tyres, but may also apply to car tyres on track and especially for a rwd car which the 370z happens to be...

"The main forces acting on a front tyre act in basically the opposite direction (braking) to those acting on a rear tyre (acceleration) therefore the primary tread grooves are arranged accordingly . By arranging the front pattern in this way the tyre gets much improved "even wear" characteristics, especiallly in high speed/circuit use. There is no deterioration in wet grip as a result, in fact , if anything, water drainage is improved."
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Not a mistake then? Maybe someone else can help clear that up...
 
great news guys.unfortunately my coundry is not in the
list but we can still play this demo and have a challenge time trial.
good luck everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
*crosses fingers and hopes for Spa*
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Dravonic
Not a mistake then? Maybe someone else can help clear that up...
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Here's some info on the A048:

On the outside, the ADVAN A048 molds a race-ready compound that provides dry grip over a wide range of temperatures into a 6/32-inch deep, "single block" tread design that increases tread stiffness and features a wide center area that stays in continuous contact with the track to enhance cornering stability, on-center feel and steering response. As the tire's outer shoulder tread wears from hard cornering, the ADVAN A048's directional tread design and symmetric internal construction allows worn tires to be remounted "inside-out" on their wheels to help prolong their life. We suggest shaving ADVAN A048 tires to between 3/32" to 4/32" of tread depth for competitive road racing.
 
I'm going to brace myself for the barrage of game-forum threads like:

"So dissapointing"
"They ruined it!"
"Still bumper cars"
"Five years for THIS!?"
"Still sterile"
"Not realistic anymore"
"I'm leaving GT"
"What a letdown"
"It wasn't worth the wait"

It happens with every hyped game, even if it's good or not :indiff:
 
evilfoxhound
I'm going to brace myself for the barrage of game-forum threads like:

"So dissapointing"
"They ruined it!"
"Still bumper cars"
"Five years for THIS!?"
"Still sterile"
"Not realistic anymore"
"I'm leaving GT"
"What a letdown"
"It wasn't worth the wait"

It happens with every hyped game, even if it's good or not :indiff:
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The one in boldfaced is inevitable, so just get used to it. I'm going to be anal myself when judging the game after a few days of play, but I won't make any unnecessary threads about it.
 
evilfoxhound
I'm going to brace myself for the barrage of game-forum threads like:

"So dissapointing"
"They ruined it!"
"Still bumper cars"
"Five years for THIS!?"
"Still sterile"
"Not realistic anymore"
"I'm leaving GT"
"What a letdown"
"It wasn't worth the wait"

It happens with every hyped game, even if it's good or not :indiff:
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👍 That's exactly what happened at FM3 forum. I've learned to not visit game forum until I've finish it.
 
evilfoxhound
I'm going to brace myself for the barrage of game-forum threads like:

"So dissapointing"
"They ruined it!"
"Still bumper cars"
"Five years for THIS!?"
"Still sterile"
"Not realistic anymore"
"I'm leaving GT"
"What a letdown"
"It wasn't worth the wait"

It happens with every hyped game, even if it's good or not :indiff:
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LOL It's so true ...

i know you will be paying for the game and i understand you might want the most of your money, but at this point, you have to realize they (PD) have done their best... so just learn to appreciate what you have...

and if you cannot, then just dont buy it...

I realize my statement could very well be applied to FM3, and that's exactly why i didnt buy the combo... i knew in advance i was not going to appreciate it to it right value... so i prefer to skip it... too bad for me, but i assume it.
 
myke6699
Here's some info on the A048:

On the outside, the ADVAN A048 molds a race-ready compound that provides dry grip over a wide range of temperatures into a 6/32-inch deep, "single block" tread design that increases tread stiffness and features a wide center area that stays in continuous contact with the track to enhance cornering stability, on-center feel and steering response. As the tire's outer shoulder tread wears from hard cornering, the ADVAN A048's directional tread design and symmetric internal construction allows worn tires to be remounted "inside-out" on their wheels to help prolong their life. We suggest shaving ADVAN A048 tires to between 3/32" to 4/32" of tread depth for competitive road racing.
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Good info.
It's logical for it to be for even wear reasons.
 
myke6699
Here's some info on the A048:

On the outside, the ADVAN A048 molds a race-ready compound that provides dry grip over a wide range of temperatures into a 6/32-inch deep, "single block" tread design that increases tread stiffness and features a wide center area that stays in continuous contact with the track to enhance cornering stability, on-center feel and steering response. As the tire's outer shoulder tread wears from hard cornering, the ADVAN A048's directional tread design and symmetric internal construction allows worn tires to be remounted "inside-out" on their wheels to help prolong their life. We suggest shaving ADVAN A048 tires to between 3/32" to 4/32" of tread depth for competitive road racing.
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Running tires "inside-out" is actually referring to countering camber wear. It is remounting the tires (not the rims) from one side of the car to the other. Which means the contact patch which was on the inside of the rim is now facing out while still keeping the tread facing in the proper direction.
 
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CTznOfTime
i know you will be paying for the game and i understand you might want the most of your money, but at this point, you have to realize they (PD) have done their best... so just learn to appreciate what you have...
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Oh, I'll be appreciative. I'm still in love with Prologue. Any improvements will make the game even more of an uncanny "I'm there" experience.

Yeah, I know it's just a game, but the advancements Prologue has over GT4 are superb, and this is as close as most of us are going to get to racing these amazing cars. For me, it's close enough to be heavenly.
 
taiyei
Running tires "inside-out" is actually referring to countering camber wear. It is remounting the tires (not the rims) from one side of the car to the other. Which means the contact patch which was on the inside of the rim is now facing out while still keeping the tread facing in the proper direction.
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"You can flip-flop (rotate from side to side) for tires that have directional and symmetrical tread patterns...like the Yoko AO48."

"You cannot do it with directional tires that have asymmetrical patterns, because each sidewall is specific to (and marked accordingly for) an inside or outside location per the manufacturers' mounting specs (for wet use / water evacuation, dry cornering, etc.)."
 
cletus 669
Ok you got me there. I will just hate it if I have to do any drifting to be able to see that 100% complete on my gamesave. I already said that if that is the case then GT5 is the last time PD will see any of my money!:grumpy:
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Most likely it would use something like Forza 3 (i.e. You dont do drifting, you dont have them pop up on schedule)
 
Hi guys, can this demo be downloaded via logged on to the PSN from a lap top, and then installed to your ps3 via USB....???

It would have also been nice if we could race this on arcade mode against other new machines.
 
evilfoxhound
I'm going to brace myself for the barrage of game-forum threads like:

"So dissapointing"
"They ruined it!"
"Still bumper cars"
"Five years for THIS!?"
"Still sterile"
"Not realistic anymore"
"I'm leaving GT"
"What a letdown"
"It wasn't worth the wait"

It happens with every hyped game, even if it's good or not :indiff:
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Let me add, Forza 3 rules , LOL!!! By the way i hope Gt5 will feature damage on the tires which you can really see, tire deform, discolor, etc.
 
Almost 300 posts in one night?! Pathetic!:lol:

Let me add another.:p

WOOOOOOOOOOOTTT!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Awesome news!

People moaned so much about the release date around March, hopefully this will quash the dissident voices for a while.

Thanks PD
 
I'm not so sure about Jordan's reasoning in the News section regarding which track it could be for the academy. Jordan has inside information that it will be either Spa or Indy and ...

However, Sony described the track as a “specially created section of a new Gran Turismo 5 circuit”, which suggests to me it’s the Indianapolis GP Circuit
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The Indy F1 track is not specially created, it has been part of the Indy circuit for years. The way I read it, is that the section was specially created for the Academy and that it may even not exist in real life. Perhaps they created a shortcut on Spa. Who knows......
 
Denur
I'm not so sure about Jordan's reasoning in the News section regarding which track it could be for the academy. Jordan has inside information that it will be either Spa or Indy and ...



The Indy F1 track is not specially created, it has been part of the Indy circuit for years. The way I read it, is that the section was specially created for the Academy and that it may even not exist in real life. Perhaps they created a shortcut on Spa. Who knows......
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Or the section itself may not be special, but they did have to make it specifically for the Academy trial. There's a bunch of ways that *could* be read. The simplest is probably that it's the Indy F1 circuit, but there's the possibility that it's something else.
 
One track and two (similar) cars...whoopeee do. I'd rather they spent time on making the actual game than releasing demos.
 

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