GT6 The real forza emulator.

[Tornado]

Oh my, so GT5 isn't perfect. That's not what this thread is about, so stop arguing about it.

Don't bring it up then. You made it a point to say in your "leave PD alone" thread that you were well aware of what was being said by PD while the game was in development, yet I'm not seeing that supposed understanding when you post nonsense like this:

Why do you all blame PD? If you geniuses would open up your eyes and ears, you'd recall that you kept blasting Kaz, and all of PD whenever they delayed it. Yet, now you're saying they rushed it.

Well, I wonder why they felt the need to do that.

Because it very likely had to do with the fact that they repeatedly announced that the development was going swimmingly and yet the game wasn't getting any closer to release as time went and Sony got sick of it more than it did because the game's development was becoming an internet joke.
If PD wanted two more years to develop the game, they probably shouldn't have gone out of their way to say that the game could be released at any time and then sit on it for over a year because they needed to tweak it, or announce release dates before missing them by 8 months, or draw massive attention to features that would be in the game and then not do them nearly as well as they originally implied.

 

[KinLM]

fanboy alert.

I'm not a fanboy, I own both games and neither of them compare to the possibilities of a game like rFactor, but they're still good games.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

Oh my, so GT5 isn't perfect. That's not what this thread is about, so stop arguing about it. If it was perfect then you wouldn't need to buy GT6, end of story.

Are you serious? You were the one who brought up "perfection" in your initial post.

None of you understand how much time they put into it I guess. They made 2 other games in that 5 year span, and they obviously were at a point where they could release it because they did, although as mentioned above, KY does say that they would like to keep working on it to make it better. They don't have an army of people, only 1/3 as many as Turn 10.

Do you know when he said that? A year and half ago before GT5's release. Going by what Kaz said, GT5 was ready at that time and they had 1 1/2 years to keep working on it so it could be released in November 2010.

So he got the time like he wanted. Maybe not as much as he wanted, but the bottom line is, he said the game was ready, so I don't see the point in making these excuses for them.

Maybe this time for GT6, he won't make such overconfident statements.

 

[KinLM]

You all truly hate me don't you? I guess I'll just stay quiet from now on so as not to upset any of you from now on.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

Hate you? Dude, you seriously need to relax. You're taking other people's view of GT way too seriously. No one's even insulted you.

 

[GTP_Gearhead]

Woah my...
Relax, no one hates you. Your clearly in PDs corner, and that's fine. Give the community a chance to respond to your opinion, and take in theirs. Getting defensive just closes the conversation.

 

[KinLM]

Okay.. Thank you. I'm still new to forums and especially new to GTP, thank you for your helpfulness. I'll try to keep a more open mind myself.

 

[sumbrownkid]

Don't sweat it. We all have our moments.

You just have a passion for the game is all.

Now as for the fanboy thing.

I'll give you all a fanboy statement: Forza 5 is the real GT3 simulator....Wait did I do that right?

 

[Smuttysy]

In response to the original question - No

What PD need to do is take a good hard look at what all of their opposition have accomplished over the life of the PS3. Every single games developer have upped their game considerably, with many features now considered a necessity. PD are seemingly stuck in 2005, completely unwilling to budge from their happy place, which is also cut off from the outside world and all the negativity that their consumers may have.
I'm completely hoping that it will be better than the XBox's dramatically more enhanced clone of GT although my doubts have been fuelled by GT5 that they are not capable of producing a modern game, with features that people actually want, rather than those that Kaz & co like. Expecting a GT Academy style front-end interface with a massive copy and paste of GT5. I would be massively surprised with anything else making it in.

 

[HuskyGT]

Yes. I want a Forza clone but with GT physics. How can anyone say no?

 

[dr_slump]

Yes. I want a Forza clone but with GT physics. How can anyone say no?

Cause I personally don't like Forza?

 

[lebes14]

Yes. I want a Forza clone but with GT physics. How can anyone say no?

+1, with the exception of the physics forza is near perfect.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Forza has 0.5 Ridge Racer physics; the cars slide WAY too much. Also, Forza physics seem to be based on the way that old WWI fighter planes turned (upon turning in, there's a delay, a wobble, and then it starts to turn.)

GT5 has decent physics. I can almost forget that I'm playing a game, while hammering about in a 100 hp FF car, (because I know what it's like to drive a 100 hp FF car.) Forza always feels like I'm driving a piece of rubber, with metal tires, instead of the other way around.


Finally, pornography: Turn 10 created a monster by letting men paint anything on their cars. We all knew a guy who was banned for creating pornography on a car, back in my Forza days. Oh, and, if they weren't banned for that, they were killed when their car rolled over for no apparent reason.


No, no one should want to see Forza Turismo 6. You don't know how bad it is!

 

[C_Raccoon23]

Forza has 0.5 Ridge Racer physics;

Oh brother. Exaggerating much? And I actually find it funny people keep saying Forza's physics is lacking when GT5's has problems too.

 

[Patrick]

Finally, pornography: Turn 10 created a monster by letting men paint anything on their cars. We all knew a guy who was banned for creating pornography on a car, back in my Forza days. Oh, and, if they weren't banned for that, they were killed when their car rolled over for no apparent reason.

No, no one should want to see Forza Turismo 6. You don't know how bad it is!

You very, very rarely see that on cars.

Stop over exaggerating.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

You very, very rarely see that on cars.

Stop over exaggerating.

Oh brother. Exaggerating much?

I'm not exaggerating.

There are like 30,000 XBL members banned for pornography... That's pretty much every person in some countries! That's like 50,000 Pitcairn Islands!

And, MuoNiuLa, go watch Forza Horizon trailers. Every car drives as flamuoyantly as Graham Norton, as a host of Top Gear.

 

[1241Penguin]

[citation needed]

 

[machschnel]

Finally, pornography: Turn 10 created a monster by letting men paint anything on their cars. We all knew a guy who was banned for creating pornography on a car, back in my Forza days.

So you state the pornography was a "monster", yet also mention people were punished for it. So what's the problem again?

I much prefer having creative freedom with the "threat" of maybe having to go through the chore of seeing some scantily clad women to the alternative.


Hey, at least paint chips are child safe!

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

So you state the pornography was a "monster", yet also mention people were punished for it. So what's the problem again?

I much prefer having creative freedom with the "threat" of maybe having to go through the chore of seeing some scantily clad women to the alternative.


Hey, at least paint chips are child safe!

The alternative, being heterosexual, is also alarming.

Either way, should my little cousin come over, while I'm just playing a racing game, she shouldn't see anything out of place; it's a racing game.

In the famous words of Famine, (I think) "You want to see boobs? You're on the fricking internet."

I shouldn't have to worry about it.

If you guys want to paint inappropriate things on your cars, drive them somewhat sideways, & flip over abnormally, I recommend staying away from Gran Turismo. Please, just go, stop contributing to the atrocious online lobbies.

 

[ProjectVRD]

I don't want a clone, but there is a lot that GT5 should have that Forza does. It is features that should have been included from the release day of GT5:

Better online for instance, why can't we properly share custom tracks and then search for them by Rating, Length, Downloads, Date, Course Type, Difficulty. Granted, Rating and Difficulty would be voted upon by the GT5 community.... but that should be included as well.

Is it wrong to want these things which are part and parcel of virtually every game that allows users to create their own maps and tracks from C.O.D. (PC) to Mod Nation (PS3)?

 

[Samus]

I'm not exaggerating.

There are like 30,000 XBL members banned for pornography... That's pretty much every person in some countries! That's like 50,000 Pitcairn Islands!

And, MuoNiuLa, go watch Forza Horizon trailers. Every car drives as flamuoyantly as Graham Norton, as a host of Top Gear.

Where are those numbers from?

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Where are those numbers from?

A half-asleep approximation, based on the number of "Under Review" auctions I saw in the Forza Auction House, when I last-played.

 

[Samus]

A half-asleep approximation, based on the number of "Under Review" auctions I saw in the Forza Auction House, when I last-played.

That is quite the approximation. Stop posting false information.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

That is quite the approximation. Stop posting false information.

AUP says "You will not knowingly post misleading or false information."

AUP doesn't say "you will not post information."


If I don't have an exact number (and I quote...) "Who the heck cares?"

 

[Samus]

They are misleading and false. Who cares? Well you're using the numbers to benefit your argument FM4 is full of pornography, so we care because it's wrong.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

That number's probably modest, compared to the real numbers.


Problem is, Micro:censored: wouldn't allow Turn 10 to post the number of banned users. I'll let you try to find that info.

Considering that it's Micro:censored:, you'd probably have an easier time getting onto the roof of the white house with a bomb. We know about the hour-long wait times for customer service etc.

 

[Samus]

You're STILL making things up, you have no idea on the real number. Whatever the number they're not all for people painting pornography on their cars so it's irrelevant to your original point that FM4 is full of pornography.

PS Censoring Microsoft just makes you look childish and further biased.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

I'm not exaggerating.

There are like 30,000 XBL members banned for pornography... That's pretty much every person in some countries! That's like 50,000 Pitcairn Islands!

And, MuoNiuLa, go watch Forza Horizon trailers. Every car drives as flamuoyantly as Graham Norton, as a host of Top Gear.

1) I'm talking about Forza 4, not Horizon.

2) Even if I were talking about Horizon, how the heck are you going to compare a full game like GT5 to a game that doesn't even have a demo yet? No one knows what the final product will play like. Biased much?

 

[Exorcet]

And, MuoNiuLa, go watch Forza Horizon trailers. Every car drives as flamuoyantly as Graham Norton, as a host of Top Gear.

How about trying the game? Forza does a much better job of capturing reality than GT. In Forza, suspension matters for one thing, and the tires are actually tires.

 

[another_jakhole]

I don't want a clone, but there is a lot that GT5 should have that Forza does. It is features that should have been included from the release day of GT5:

Better online for instance, why can't we properly share custom tracks and then search for them by Rating, Length, Downloads, Date, Course Type, Difficulty. Granted, Rating and Difficulty would be voted upon by the GT5 community.... but that should be included as well.

Is it wrong to want these things which are part and parcel of virtually every game that allows users to create their own maps and tracks from C.O.D. (PC) to Mod Nation (PS3)?

Nope. You'll just have to be realistic. I was with you until the last paragraph.