GT6 The real forza emulator.

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Do you want Gran Turismo to become a clone of forza?

  • Yes

    Votes: 24 12.9%
  • No

    Votes: 162 87.1%

  • Total voters
    186
Race tires aren't exactly anchors. If you go over the limit, the car isn't going to behave very nicely. I've never had any issue with drifting even on road tires anyway. Meanwhile in GT, there are cars like the Speed 12 and S7 that apparently have butter coated rear tires (and this was carried over from GT4). I've never found a Forza car with ridiculous grip values like that.

In any case, I don't see much random sliding here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iCOcPOWZNs
 
Having features that are in Forza will not make GT6 a Forza clone, it will just make GT6 a better game. Also many of these features have been in other games that were released before Forza, so really it would be just GT giving people what they want.

I will answer yes on the poll, because I want these features and I don't really care if fanboys have arguements about who copied who.
 
MrMelancholy15
If you guys want to paint inappropriate things on your cars, drive them somewhat sideways, & flip over abnormally, I recommend staying away from Gran Turismo.

Funny you should mention flipping over.
Is this possible yet online in GT? Or are the invisible stabilisers still active?

Thanks.
 
Funny you should mention flipping over.
Is this possible yet online in GT? Or are the invisible stabilisers still active?

Thanks.
It is possible (or at least was, not sure if an update changed it), but only offline.
 
Finally, pornography: Turn 10 created a monster by letting men paint anything on their cars. We all knew a guy who was banned for creating pornography on a car, back in my Forza days.

Wait, wait, what? You mean I could race and watch porn at the same time?
That'll require a set of skills I've yet to master.

Seriously, I guess there are ways around that (the often mentioned 'show no livery' option) and personally I doubt a PD-designed livery editor would even give us the option to import images in the first place, and if it does see above.
Can't wait to design my own liveries even if that means stumbling upon offensive ones once in a while.
 
dr_slump
It is possible, but only offline.

I thought so, IT hasn't been patched in yet.

I was just referencing the chap who rediculed Forza's roll over. When GT doesn't even try ( online ).

As for inappropriate paints, yes I'm sure they exist. Not seen any myself but if I did I would report and block the user from my console.

I have seen many thought provoking livery's.
breast cancer awareness, help for heroes, tributes to Fallen icons,Senna etc.

Maybe it's not cool to point those out though.

If the game allows you a powerful tool to reproduce almost anything is it right to banish that medium?
What's next? Ban members from GTplanet who say negative comments?. Do away with freedom of speech?

What is the mindset of GT users who face rammers online? Is the answer to stop all online play? Or simply find a group of like minded people who share the same passion and avoid the idiots.

Sum up. The offensive livery argument is a moot point. We have morals and offensive content is put in our way in all aspects of life TV, Internet, newspapers etc.
TV, Internet and newspapers also promote positive aspects too.

Maybe the naysayers should stay indoors in bubble wrap.
 
The alternative, being heterosexual, is also alarming. :yuck:

Either way, should my little cousin come over, while I'm just playing a racing game, she shouldn't see anything out of place; it's a racing game.

In the famous words of Famine, (I think) "You want to see boobs? You're on the fricking internet."

I shouldn't have to worry about it.

If you guys want to paint inappropriate things on your cars, drive them somewhat sideways, & flip over abnormally, I recommend staying away from Gran Turismo. Please, just go, stop contributing to the atrocious online lobbies.
That is not a problem, make the custom liveries a toggle-able option.
 
One thing I hope GT doesn't implement is Unicorns. I don't have a problem with cars with special liveries being used as incentives for certain things (using cars like GT's Stealths and Chromelines, for example), but some of my favorite cars in Forza are Unicorns (Challenge Stradale, RX-7 Spirit R.)

I guess what I'm saying is that if you're going to have a program of this sort, it should be with special liveried cars already in the game (which, I know it can be argued that some of F4's Unis are that) instead of seperate models.

Some people seem to like the Unicorn program, I personally find it to be one of Forza 4's few failings. Hell, if they would just let me buy the cars as a seperate pack, I wouldn't have a problem doing so at all. I just find that having to jump through hoops for the Turn 10 staff to get a couple of cars to be distasteful.

Well, that's the end of my Unicorn rant, one thing I hope GT doesn't emulate. Have a good day.
 
I also do not like Unicorn cars, nor exclusive pre-order cars. If you model X amount of cars then give everyone X amount of cars, not X for some people and X-y for others. Not completely unique models anyway.
 
Having features that are in Forza will not make GT6 a Forza clone, it will just make GT6 a better game. Also many of these features have been in other games that were released before Forza, so really it would be just GT giving people what they want.

I will answer yes on the poll, because I want these features and I don't really care if fanboys have arguements about who copied who.

True. I share the same point of view. I play way more Forza 4 than GT5, not because of physics or graphics, but because of the nice features that are well thought out and very excellent implemented in the Forza franchise. Things like a working car class index (LI), painting, auction house, leader boards, rivals mode, etc. Most of those things were in other games before, but have been implemented very well to the series. GT could also benefit from adding such features and making the experience better.

Things like an auction house would even make more sense in GT, because of the massive car collection. If you find a rare car in the used dealership and already own it, then you can pick it up and sell it for a fortune on the auction house. A rivals mode would be great too. The seasonal events every month would'nt be just for earning money, but also for competing with your friends or players worldwide. GT racers are very competitive, so it would be really cool to have things like the GT academy time trials more frequently through rivals. Just some examples to show you that GT can not just benefit from those features, but also improve them.

And for the physics I think that both games are nearly on one level now. But also with some problems physics wise in both. A big problem with GT is the lack of locking your tyres while downshifting too hard in or before a corner. Because this is quite good shown in Forza. Oh and you should try the cars not with sports soft or race soft (even sports medium has way much grip) and then we will see how they are not sliding in GT5. In Forza you have to drive right to get the grip, with racing/sports softs GT5 gives you the grip automatically.
 
Spagetti69
I thought so, IT hasn't been patched in yet.

I was just referencing the chap who rediculed Forza's roll over. When GT doesn't even try ( online ).

As for inappropriate paints, yes I'm sure they exist. Not seen any myself but if I did I would report and block the user from my console.

I have seen many thought provoking livery's.
breast cancer awareness, help for heroes, tributes to Fallen icons,Senna etc.

Maybe it's not cool to point those out though.

If the game allows you a powerful tool to reproduce almost anything is it right to banish that medium?
What's next? Ban members from GTplanet who say negative comments?. Do away with freedom of speech?

What is the mindset of GT users who face rammers online? Is the answer to stop all online play? Or simply find a group of like minded people who share the same passion and avoid the idiots.

Sum up. The offensive livery argument is a moot point. We have morals and offensive content is put in our way in all aspects of life TV, Internet, newspapers etc.
TV, Internet and newspapers also promote positive aspects too.

Maybe the naysayers should stay indoors in bubble wrap.

+1, I will lose all hope in PD if inappropriate liveries keeps them from making an editor.
 
lebes14
+1, I will lose all hope in PD if inappropriate liveries keeps them from making an editor.

Agreed. Although Kaz has stated he would like to see that feature in game himself.

If they did use the offensive content as an excuse I would have to remind him of the standard cars that some found offensive. It didn't stop him including those.
 
One thing I hope GT doesn't implement is Unicorns. I don't have a problem with cars with special liveries being used as incentives for certain things (using cars like GT's Stealths and Chromelines, for example), but some of my favorite cars in Forza are Unicorns (Challenge Stradale, RX-7 Spirit R.)

A valid point, indeed. However...

I guess what I'm saying is that if you're going to have a program of this sort, it should be with special liveried cars already in the game (which, I know it can be argued that some of F4's Unis are that) instead of seperate models.

...As of 4 it's a hell of a lot easier to acquire a Unicorn (trust me, I know :P) as all you have to on the easiest of days is answer a question on the official forums, regardless of how many people have answered before you... even with the correct answer, and request whichever Unicorn you want.

Then there's the Rivals mode events (both in-game and community specific). But, again, it's an incredibly valid point. My point is my zeal with the whole idea is nowhere near as great as it was prior to 4.
 
I hate Unicorns and any kind of exclusivity as well. One thing that both Forza and GT should go for is completely open content in some mode (which includes online). Forza almost went there with the open arcade mode, but without the ability to tune, paint, or race those cars online it's basically a glorified test drive.
 
Finally, pornography: Turn 10 created a monster by letting men paint anything on their cars. We all knew a guy who was banned for creating pornography on a car, backForza days. Oh, and, if they weren't banned for that, they were killed when their car rolled over for no apparent reason. :odd:

PD created a monster by letting men write anything while in a lobby, causing it to show up way more prominently than if there was car with pornography on it racing. Unless of course, it was your car, or you were deliberately looking at it...

[/I]42807]Either way, should my little cousin come over, while I'm just playing a racing game, she shouldn't see anything out of place; it's a racing game.

Should my little cousin come over while I'm just playing a racing game, he shouldn't read anything out of place, its a racing game.
 
Exorcet
I hate Unicorns and any kind of exclusivity as well. One thing that both Forza and GT should go for is completely open content in some mode (which includes online). Forza almost went there with the open arcade mode, but without the ability to tune, paint, or race those cars online it's basically a glorified test drive.

I think Forza is pretty open as it is.
Every car is unlocked to race stock online.

You do have to earn credits to purchase and modify the car though. Many would be dissapointed if it were made redundant.
I could live with it though.

I don't like the GT rpg levelling though. That's just a grind.
 
A valid point, indeed. However...



...As of 4 it's a hell of a lot easier to acquire a Unicorn (trust me, I know :P) as all you have to on the easiest of days is answer a question on the official forums, regardless of how many people have answered before you... even with the correct answer, and request whichever Unicorn you want.

Then there's the Rivals mode events (both in-game and community specific). But, again, it's an incredibly valid point. My point is my zeal with the whole idea is nowhere near as great as it was prior to 4.

I agree with you that it is pretty easy to get Unicorns right now. I have 11 different ones and have only had the game about 2 months now. However, if Johniwanna wasn't there, I believe that besides rivals there would almost zero chance of getting any Unis. Plus nowadays it seems like even the rivals are having trouble getting Unicorns. There have been a few threads about it over at FM.net.

The whole concept just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. If they wanted to make these cars hard to get, why not just set up some tough challenges in the game, with these cars as the prize? At least then when you passed the challenge, you would get your prize immediately, instead of waiting for a Turn 10 employee to finally decide to pass out some Unicorns one day.
 
GT has fallen from grace in the console world and now Forza holds that top spot, we'll see if PD gets their **** together for GT6 and delivers some MUCH NEEDED features.
 
TURNIP
GT has fallen from grace in the console world and now Forza holds that top spot, we'll see if PD gets their **** together for GT6 and delivers some MUCH NEEDED features.

If they were in the same platform then it would be a lot more interesting.

As it stands the only competition between these, is for owners of both consoles.
Arguably the best people to criticise either one.
 
However, if Johniwanna wasn't there, I believe that besides rivals there would almost zero chance of getting any Unis.

That wouldn't be the case at all. Even before then they were relatively easy to obtain: Photomode competitions, Race with Devs, and whatever else they had/have going on over there.

Plus nowadays it seems like even the rivals are having trouble getting Unicorns. There have been a few threads about it over at FM.net.

There's been a few minor hiccups since they've been tasked with all of the other car giveaways they have going on.
 
That number's probably modest, compared to the real numbers.


Problem is, Micro:censored: wouldn't allow Turn 10 to post the number of banned users. I'll let you try to find that info.

Actually, that's not how these things work. If you want to pull random numbers out of thin air, don't try to pass them off as anything other than convenient filler to try and serve your point. The onus is not on us to do your research for you.

Considering that it's Micro:censored:, you'd probably have an easier time getting onto the roof of the white house with a bomb. :dunce: We know about the hour-long wait times for customer service etc.

Sony is hardly a shining example of customer service either. Considering the size of both company's online gaming networks, I sort of expect that, actually.
 
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