GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[TechnoIsLove]

The first one was just really bad luck. I don’t think the game can ghost that quick, it’s a Bitter pill when you get hit and then it ghosts so everyone else can go through though.
The ram at the end. Jesus. ‘Top
Split’ too. What a joke

I bet he's a communist! 😂

 

[r_epp]

Been away camping this week, didn't get much of a chance to do any qualifying or racing till yesterday evening. Sticking with Race C this week, I don't seem to enjoy higher speed courses in Gr 4 cars terribly much. I've only managed to get my qualifier down to 1:34.2 so far in the RX Vision GT3 which isn't quite good enough in B/S for any good starting positions, but I'm definitely still improving my times as I think the optimal time I'd theoretically be able to get with my best sectors is a mid 1:33 which I'm hoping to nail down this weekend yet.

 

[TechnoIsLove]

Been away camping this week, didn't get much of a chance to do any qualifying or racing till yesterday evening. Sticking with Race C this week, I don't seem to enjoy higher speed courses in Gr 4 cars terribly much. I've only managed to get my qualifier down to 1:34.2 so far in the RX Vision GT3 which isn't quite good enough in B/S for any good starting positions, but I'm definitely still improving my times as I think the optimal time I'd theoretically be able to get with my best sectors is a mid 1:33 which I'm hoping to nail down this weekend yet.

The M6 and Supra are faster but twitchier in the chicanes. CLK, Corvette and the new Legend Skyline Silhouette are much more stable but around 0.7 seconds slower per lap, at least for me. Give them a go and see how they feel for you. You definitely can improve your time, I'm a simple guy and am down to a 1:32:3 in the M6 🙂

 

[RacingGrandpa]

It depends on the way they're approaching the corner. A dive bomb is usually where they dive into the inside line but to the point where the car who was leading now cannot take the corner without slowing well beyond a reasonable amount - if you're both pretty much side-by-side or near enough, and the car dives to the inside but leaves enough room for you to continue around the outside without significant loss, then that's essentially a clean move. It's all down to the event, but that's my rough description of it.

I would say that even with significant loss it's still a clean move, as long as the car diving in can make the corner without hitting the other car and leaves room enough on the outside.
If there's a car width on the outside it's clear

 

[Winnie847]

I’ve really enjoyed lapping and racing Watkins Glen this week. Never raced this track before GT7 and now that I’ve spent some time learning it in both Gr.3 and Gr.4 cars I can say it’s now one of my favorites. Such a great flow to it and I love all the elevation changes and camber.

I spent a couple hours qualifying Wednesday night and only managed a 1:53.8, ran a couple races then went to bed. I was definitely happy with that time but I knew there was more in it. Then last night was supposed to be reserved for racing and out of nowhere I improved my lap time to a 53.5 in between Sport Mode entries! Couldn’t believe it. I Didn’t even realize I was on a good lap until the final few corners, I was just zoning out. Pretty good qualifying for me, relative to where I normally am. It was starting me ahead of people with pace slightly better than me, and it’s usually the other way around. I guess I tend to hit a decent lap then move on to the racing and feel a little less pressure knowing I can race at least as quick as my time suggests if not better. Anyway, had to save that lap so here it is.


By the end of the night I did find some nice race pace though. Had one very consistent race and lapped all in the 54’s for my best finishing time of 9:37.6, and on my final lap of the night I managed a 1:54.4 in the race which was comparable to some pretty quick alien-like drivers I was racing with earlier in the night. So I ended my week with a bag full of wins and slept like a baby last night. Couple more vids below. 😬

Fastest lap in-race


9:37.6 Total Time

 

[Fezzik]

I think I’m going to just concentrate on the longer race Cs. Single lap speed isn’t good enough so I’m always starting near the back in B lobbies, and 5 lap sprints aren’t long enough for me to recover (I have decent consistent race pace).

 

[Bullwinkle]

I’m loving the A race this week. I didn’t expect it to be so much fun. It’s engaging, challenging, and more rewarding than I thought it would be.

But can anyone explain to me the suspension height glitch?! What is the deal with that? It’s just so basic, how could it be screwed up so badly?!

 

[MidnightRun85]

I would say that even with significant loss it's still a clean move, as long as the car diving in can make the corner without hitting the other car and leaves room enough on the outside.
If there's a car width on the outside it's clear

My meaning by "significant loss" is where the inside line car cuts off the outside line car so they have to significantly reduce their speed (beyond a reasonable amount) to stay on track or within limits. Kind like this poorly drawn sketch, blue being car 1 who's marginally ahead, and red being car 2 who's diving up the inside, late braking and cutting off the lead car to the point where the lead car will almost need to stop to stay on track or avoid collision.

A dive up the inside where both cars can stay on the tarmac is a fair move. If the inside car has the balls or the brakes to brake later and make the corner with fair space, then they're fully entitled to!

 

[Leon Kowalski]

Third time's a charm. Finally... a decent race B. Pure B/S lobby due to the fact that my recent destruction derby had knocked down my DR a bit. Pole position, clean race, though a bit overly cautious in the chicane and at the heel, but got away with a win. P2 was threatening for three laps, then I was able to open the gap a bit. Would have been extremely boring for any spectator, but I was sweating...😅

 

[JDM_GT7]

You didn't disconnect when you blew by me just now! I finally had a clean race, but the load cell pedals I got today are making me relearn everything, which is slowing me down. I was 18" back at P3!

yeah I watch you and some else battle/do tandem drifting while I fought for 2nd,3rd and 4th while Sturk was 15-20 seconds up the road. Thanks for sharing your tune sturk.

 

[r_epp]

The M6 and Supra are faster but twitchier in the chicanes. CLK, Corvette and the new Legend Skyline Silhouette are much more stable but around 0.7 seconds slower per lap, at least for me. Give them a go and see how they feel for you. You definitely can improve your time, I'm a simple guy and am down to a 1:32:3 in the M6 🙂

I did a few 4-5 lap qualifying stints in a few different vehicles last night, but the Mazda RX was the best for me at the time. I had originally picked the Ford GT LM racecar and had a 1:34.4 early on, but haven't gone back to it yet to see if the repetition in other vehicles has improved my time in that yet or not.

I think I’m going to just concentrate on the longer race Cs. Single lap speed isn’t good enough so I’m always starting near the back in B lobbies, and 5 lap sprints aren’t long enough for me to recover (I have decent consistent race pace).

My thoughts exactly. It would just be nice if there was some pit strategy involved in the slightly longer race. I'd love a race that was longer yet, 24 laps with a fresh race every 45 minutes or so would be fun.

 

[benjoi84]

My meaning by "significant loss" is where the inside line car cuts off the outside line car so they have to significantly reduce their speed (beyond a reasonable amount) to stay on track or within limits. Kind like this poorly drawn sketch, blue being car 1 who's marginally ahead, and red being car 2 who's diving up the inside, late braking and cutting off the lead car to the point where the lead car will almost need to stop to stay on track or avoid collision.

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A dive up the inside where both cars can stay on the tarmac is a fair move. If the inside car has the balls or the brakes to brake later and make the corner with fair space, then they're fully entitled to!

This all seems totally fundamental. I think the biggest risk with 'diving' (even cleanly) is that the guy on the outside doesn't see you and they don't make the necessary adjustment, carry the same line they would it you weren't there. Due to their lack of awareness, they turn into you, blaming you for the contact and probably react in an inflammatory way. Chances are they lost the position too, so it's a double threat to their composure.

This is a big hole in race-craft knowledge, IMO. Many people who react badly in this hypothetical but very real situation are just unaware of how to prevent the initial manoeuvre from being available in the first place.

 

[NikNakTobasco]

This all seems totally fundamental. I think the biggest risk with 'diving' (even cleanly) is that the guy on the outside doesn't see you and they don't make the necessary adjustment, carry the same line they would it you weren't there. Due to their lack of awareness, they turn into you, blaming you for the contact and probably react in an inflammatory way. Chances are they lost the position too, so it's a double threat to their composure.

This is a big hole in race-craft knowledge, IMO. Many people who react badly in this hypothetical but very real situation are just unaware of how to prevent the initial manoeuvre from being available in the first place.

Like this?

 

[r_epp]

This all seems totally fundamental. I think the biggest risk with 'diving' (even cleanly) is that the guy on the outside doesn't see you and they don't make the necessary adjustment, carry the same line they would it you weren't there. Due to their lack of awareness, they turn into you, blaming you for the contact and probably react in an inflammatory way. Chances are they lost the position too, so it's a double threat to their composure.

This is a big hole in race-craft knowledge, IMO. Many people who react badly in this hypothetical but very real situation are just unaware of how to prevent the initial manoeuvre from being available in the first place.

To be fair, it's quite difficult to know who's behind and to the side of you without being able to check mirrors. I hope that there's VR support in the future and that this would be something that can be alleviated (at least for me, as I plan on getting PSVR2 ASAP).

 

[WRP001]

I’ve really enjoyed lapping and racing Watkins Glen this week. Never raced this track before GT7 and now that I’ve spent some time learning it in both Gr.3 and Gr.4 cars I can say it’s now one of my favorites. Such a great flow to it and I love all the elevation changes and camber.

I spent a couple hours qualifying Wednesday night and only managed a 1:53.8, ran a couple races then went to bed. I was definitely happy with that time but I knew there was more in it. Then last night was supposed to be reserved for racing and out of nowhere I improved my lap time to a 53.5 in between Sport Mode entries! Couldn’t believe it. I Didn’t even realize I was on a good lap until the final few corners, I was just zoning out. Pretty good qualifying for me, relative to where I normally am. It was starting me ahead of people with pace slightly better than me, and it’s usually the other way around. I guess I tend to hit a decent lap then move on to the racing and feel a little less pressure knowing I can race at least as quick as my time suggests if not better. Anyway, had to save that lap so here it is.


By the end of the night I did find some nice race pace though. Had one very consistent race and lapped all in the 54’s for my best finishing time of 9:37.6, and on my final lap of the night I managed a 1:54.4 in the race which was comparable to some pretty quick alien-like drivers I was racing with earlier in the night. So I ended my week with a bag full of wins and slept like a baby last night. Couple more vids below. 😬

Nice! I am still at 53.8. Best race is 9:39 can’t seem to do a 54 in race because I am scared of chicane. Lol.

Speaking of chicane I was in lead today (A+ to B lobby) and got bumped and run braking into chicane. Saved it and only lost a few seconds, but guy took lead and kept it. I ended up losing by less than a second. The guy said sorry in chat and I told him he should have waited… he said “next time” lol. Don’t bother saying sorry if you are going to take advantage of your own mistake. Just glad I didn’t completely lose it and saved a good result.

After a good 7-8 races with all top two finishes I hit curb wrong entering chicane and visited Barry R all on my own. Ouch. Once in the middle of the pack this race changes a lot. Lol.

 

[Machinist757]

Anyone have good races with something other than the GTR in race B?

 

[Bullwinkle]

I usually don't post videos of my races, but I had the most amazing series of races at A today. I mean, the absolute BEST racing I've ever been a part of. This is so much fun, and everyone is more cooperative and pleasant to be around when DR/SR isn't at risk. I LOVE that we can tune cars but without a broken PP system. This is the best way to do it as of now.

In the video below is the best example of one of my races today. The top 4 cars were a tight knot for most of the race. Even when the first two cars pulled away, I was in such a tight battle with P3 that we drafted and caught up with the first cars for the final lap, which was flat out frantic racing. And not a dirty move to be seen! This has been such a great way to learn how to race! It took me most of the day to get used to my new load cell pedals, but once I got them calibrated to where I want, they are a complete game changer! It's probably why I was able to have such a good time racing today.

 

[ILLEAGLE_34]

Anyone have good races with something other than the GTR in race B?

The viper is nice to drive around there. Great gearing for the track. 🍻

 

[Leon Kowalski]

Anyone have good races with something other than the GTR in race B?

G70.

 

[benjoi84]

I usually don't post videos of my races, but I had the most amazing series of races at A today. I mean, the absolute BEST racing I've ever been a part of. This is so much fun, and everyone is more cooperative and pleasant to be around when DR/SR isn't at risk. I LOVE that we can tune cars but without a broken PP system. This is the best way to do it as of now.

If charging around a fictional countryside circuit in a tuned BMW one-make race isn't the perfect marriage of old-school Gran Turismo and considered online motor sports then I don't wanna know what is!

 

[DK]

Don't you just love getting a better exit after going around the outside at Heel, only for the asshole on your right to force you onto the grass all the way up to T9, getting off scot-free while landing you with a cut track penalty? 👎

 

[Roggers]

My meaning by "significant loss" is where the inside line car cuts off the outside line car so they have to significantly reduce their speed (beyond a reasonable amount) to stay on track or within limits. Kind like this poorly drawn sketch, blue being car 1 who's marginally ahead, and red being car 2 who's diving up the inside, late braking and cutting off the lead car to the point where the lead car will almost need to stop to stay on track or avoid collision.

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A dive up the inside where both cars can stay on the tarmac is a fair move. If the inside car has the balls or the brakes to brake later and make the corner with fair space, then they're fully entitled to!

I think with divebombing it’s always a controversial subject, as everyone has different views on what is a clean pass and what isnt a clean pass.
With regards to the image you have drawn to me that is borderline in just been a clean pass for me, as long as no contact was made or the blue driver had to go off track.


This video I think shows some good verity of divebombs.
Clip 10 and 9, these in my view are not safe passes and both drivers should have to give the position back. clip 10 Stroll driver Ricciardo off the track, and clip 9 Albon is coming in way to hot, makes some contact whIch I think help him make the corner.
Clip 6 Ricciardo and Kimi this too for me is a fair move. It’s borderline but Ricciardo get the car stopped in time, but also leaves just enough space for Kimi.

This all seems totally fundamental. I think the biggest risk with 'diving' (even cleanly) is that the guy on the outside doesn't see you and they don't make the necessary adjustment, carry the same line they would it you weren't there. Due to their lack of awareness, they turn into you, blaming you for the contact and probably react in an inflammatory way. Chances are they lost the position too, so it's a double threat to their composure.

This is a big hole in race-craft knowledge, IMO. Many people who react badly in this hypothetical but very real situation are just unaware of how to prevent the initial manoeuvre from being available in the first place.

Your right with this. With the lack of a rear view mirror (on 3 of the camera views) and the fact your unable to see in the wing mirrors, its hard to judge who is steaming in behind you and trying to make that divebomb. Plus you can’t always watch the radar leading up to the apex of the corner.
My view on this is if you more 0.500 behind me a divebomb is unlikely to come off and we’re going to make contact. 99% of the time when they that far back I will normally take my normal racing line while having a quick glance at the radar when possible. When the driver behind is within the 0.500 I will be prepared for that move to come and then always leave room on a corner as I know 80% of the time I’m likely going to get overtaken.

 

[zaxs]

Anyone have good races with something other than the GTR in race B?

I'm driving only Alfa 155.
Lacking some straight speed, but I'm also lacking talent since in DR B

 

[brockie]

Anyone have good races with something other than the GTR in race B?

I am mostly in the gtr but having some good racing against the g70, alfa and Porsche

 

[Roggers]

Did the big manufacture race today and had a really good race. This put me I quite a decent mood about GT7. Did a few daily c tonight and they all been pretty fun (apart from one driver who been getting on my tits).
So the 2 races I’ve done have been daily c.
Race 1 was a close race from P2 to me in P6. Around lap 6 a few cars are battling and 2 end up off in the grass, so I’m right behind P3 now. Going through the S’s in S1 I’m close on the tail of the car and in the long left hander they run wide on exit and over the grass. They rejoin the track asap but then drive slap bang in the middle of the road so I cant pass and in the chicane they run wide again and rejoin unsafely by rejoining in the middle of the corner and i tap the rear which then sends me into a spin. Finished the race P7 in the end.
Race 2 P9 start and nothing goes wrong at the start. Lap 2 the same driver lose it again on the long left hander in S1 and this time they rejoin and the small right kink they go to close the door on me so I move to the left and they move to the left also so I end up rear e ding them. And once again at the chicane they make an error and I’m the one paying the price for there errors. I’m thinking of switching back on ASM and Counter steer. Seems to be the ones who cause the crashes are the ones that use the assist. Finished race 2 in P6 so not too bad.

 

[Cherryturbo]

…….and i tap the rear which then sends me into a spin. Finished the race P7 in the end.

……so I end up rear e ding them. And once again at the chicane they make an error and I’m the one paying the price for there errors.

Many years ago, in RL, I get rear-ended turning right off a busy road. Family is ok but there are bits of car everywhere so the Police get involved. I’m giving my view of events and the guy who has hit me blurts out “but he braked suddenly!” The policeman stops writing and gives the bloke a long hard stare…….. “but you didn’t!”.
No more interruptions.

I’m thinking of switching back on ASM and Counter steer. Seems to be the ones who cause the crashes are the ones that use the assist.

You’re switching them back on to cause crashes?

 

[Machinist757]

The Mustang feels pretty good around Watkins Glenn.. Wish I woulda started using it sooner

 

[Chris30]

I’ve really enjoyed lapping and racing Watkins Glen this week. Never raced this track before GT7 and now that I’ve spent some time learning it in both Gr.3 and Gr.4 cars I can say it’s now one of my favorites. Such a great flow to it and I love all the elevation changes and camber.

I spent a couple hours qualifying Wednesday night and only managed a 1:53.8, ran a couple races then went to bed. I was definitely happy with that time but I knew there was more in it. Then last night was supposed to be reserved for racing and out of nowhere I improved my lap time to a 53.5 in between Sport Mode entries! Couldn’t believe it. I Didn’t even realize I was on a good lap until the final few corners, I was just zoning out. Pretty good qualifying for me, relative to where I normally am. It was starting me ahead of people with pace slightly better than me, and it’s usually the other way around. I guess I tend to hit a decent lap then move on to the racing and feel a little less pressure knowing I can race at least as quick as my time suggests if not better. Anyway, had to save that lap so here it is.


By the end of the night I did find some nice race pace though. Had one very consistent race and lapped all in the 54’s for my best finishing time of 9:37.6, and on my final lap of the night I managed a 1:54.4 in the race which was comparable to some pretty quick alien-like drivers I was racing with earlier in the night. So I ended my week with a bag full of wins and slept like a baby last night. Couple more vids below. 😬

Fastest lap in-race


9:37.6 Total Time

So, I haven't raced there yet, so what should I look out for on the track? Are there any turns/corners that are hard to master. And what are the best driving lines to get the highest amount of speed?

 

[WRP001]

So, I haven't raced there yet, so what should I look out for on the track? Are there any turns/corners that are hard to master. And what are the best driving lines to get the highest amount of speed?

Search YouTube for “ gran turismo 7 watkins glenn track guide Gr 4” and pick your favorite. The easiest place to lose time is chicane but entire track is challenging and fun. TT is one thing but in race the chicane plays with your mind… the curb can turn a seemingly good entry, off by a few pixels, into a visit with Barry R. You can gain time if you risk it or play it safer. Your pick lol. I vary my approach based on race situation but it’s definitely in my head haha

 

[Leon Kowalski]

I just tried Race C on my second account (without qualification time), just to see what it is like. Two observations:
1. Dirty air.
I've never experienced it that much before, but in the Genesis X, it's obviously a thing. Quite a big thing. In my first race, three times when I was close behind another car, twice in the esses and once after the chicane, my rear snapped and I spun. The Genesis X is usually very stable at higher speeds, so I was really caught off-guard. I still managed not to finish last, due to at least a dozen spinouts by other drivers. Behind me finished a guy in a Supra who was extremely fast (gained almost two seconds per lap on me), but went lawnmowing four times.
2. There is always at at least one idiot in an otherwise fair race.
Second try, I started from P 13, won a position, but then made a mistake, braked to late and pushed P11 onto the grass in the hairpin. Not 100% sure if it was my mistake, but I waited for him and let him pass again, but of course found myself dead last after that. I played catch-up from then on and had a quite enjoyable race. Until reaching the final corners, of course. I had climbed back to P9, P8 was right in front of me and a bit slow in the final chicane, but I decided that one position was not worth ruining both our races and stayed behind him. But because that meant going slow through the chicane, P10, a frenchman with a Mazda, caught up, and as I went defensive in the final right-hander, he pushed me into the grass to overtake, and I lost several positions before the finish line. Well done, mon ami! Hope you're happy now.🤬🤣