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Don't get me started. I've been experimenting for Race B and as far as I can tell everyone's going to be in the Alphard. Ridiculous BoP.
Don't get me started. I've been experimenting for Race B and as far as I can tell everyone's going to be in the Alphard. Ridiculous BoP.
I've always been in lobbies like that (recognize a few names there). It's why my DR trickles upward, pixel-by-pixel, but always seems to plummet downwards.You'd think that by now I would completely understand the whole DR thing. And I pretty-much do. I just need someone else to look at this, and say what I probably already know (if that makes sense).
I'm a B at 68%. So nowhere near the top of Bs. In this race I started P13 - HANG ON, I KNOW where I start doesn't matter to how my DR is affected, but just hear me out. As I said, I started P13 with a couple of Bs ahead of me. I finished P10, with only one B in front of me, all the rest were As. I even had one A finish behind me.
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So this was a decent race for me. I expected to gain a few DR points, because of how well the race went for me.
But my DR stayed exactly the same (to the pixel, anyway).
So is the issue just that too many people finished in front of me, even though they're mostly all As and I'm nowhere close right now? The reason I mentioned where I started was that (obviously) I would probably score better if I started higher up in the race (duh), so I know I need to improve my QT.
But anyway, yeah, there it is. I thought a good finish like this (for me), would have helped, but it didn't.
As an aside, it would REALLY be nice if more people were racing, so I didn't end up at the end of a mostly A lobby. But I guess those days are long gone. The shine is off, and people have moved on. Sigh. It's unfair for PD to get me solidly hooked on their drug, then have the distribution channel start to dry up. I guess that's life.
Just call me a ramblin' man. Trying tomake a livingplay some racin' and doing the best I can. (with apologies to the Allman Brothers)
Disclaimer: I know nothing. Let's assume that you lose the following points when these folks finish ahead of you (given you are B):
I need some help guys. And opinions. Starting P6, I had a good fight for a podium. But to be fair, my last lap last turn overtake is a bit questionable. I feel like the driver in front hits the brake a bit too soon, so I had to move to the left to avoid contact. By doing so, I pretty much launched it into the hairpin and did the overtake for P3 which was not intentional at first. I didn't missed my brakingpoint, I didn't missed the apex and also really did not hit him... At the end of the race I’ve been called dirty by the driver I overtook. Now, I don’t think I agree with that, but maybe I'm missing out on something. So I was wondering how you guys look at a situation like this? You don't need to watch the whole race, the incident is on the last lap at the hairpin.
I see what you mean, thank you for this point of view. I also understand where you are coming from. But would you consider it as a dirty move?I mean it was an absolute send - and it was past where you normally start braking (see pics). Couple that with the extra speed from the slipstream and you do unfortunately qualify for Dive Of The Century.
I personally would not consider it a very sportsmanlike move, you only made the apex because you cut across to it and parked on it, if the car ahead were anywhere else you'd either piledrive them or shoot off to the end of the earth.
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I wouldn't say it was dirty necessarily, but certainly overzealous.I see what you mean, thank you for this point of view. I also understand where you are coming from. But would you consider it as a dirty move?
I wouldn’t necessarily say it was dirty, you missed your braking point and in avoiding P2 you basically divebombed him. He did well to notice it and dodge you but the only thing I’ll say is… he could have defended even just slightly coming up to the braking zone which would have left you diving outside of him instead (or punting him if you didn’t make it) and him keeping position.I see what you mean, thank you for this point of view. I also understand where you are coming from. But would you consider it as a dirty move?
I did this in one of the first races of the week; missed the braking in the slipstream and the only place to go without crushing someone was the inside (there were three of us). Slowed down, and said 'sry 4 dive!' in the chat. Everyone was cool about it.I wouldn’t necessarily say it was dirty, you missed your braking point and in avoiding P2 you basically divebombed him. He did well to notice it and dodge you but the only thing I’ll say is… he could have defended even just slightly coming up to the braking zone which would have left you diving outside of him instead (or punting him if you didn’t make it) and him keeping position.
I think in a real race you’d say it was a little aggressive but Max Verstappen has been getting away with late braking like that for years! No contact, probably no penalty but you’d get chewed out by the other driver in the cool down room!
I understand. I did saved the replay of the race, and checked it from his point of view. And it looked like he braked sooner than he did on the other 4 laps. Also he moved a bit to the left in the brakingzone, but just slightly. It might not be the cleanest overtake, I agree on that. But I don't think it is a dirty move too. Thanks for sharing your opinion with me. It helps me to become a better driver. I appreciate it!I wouldn't say it was dirty necessarily, but certainly overzealous.
It's the type of move that if I did it I would definitely go "ah oops" and hand it back. But I'd welcome others takes on it.
I mean, it just depends on their DRs vs yours, both the players who finished ahead and behind you. The A+s won't take much from you, but just as an example, let's say the As ahead are very low As and the Bs behind are very low Bs. Being a 2/3rds B, the low As will take a chunk from you but you won't take a lot from the low Bs. I know this is kind of an extreme example but it always helps me visualize. Going a step further, like how you can theoretically finish P2 and lose DR. If you're an A+ rated driver and get in a lobby with all E rated drivers, finish P2, you will take virtually nothing from P3-P16 but P1 will take a lot from you.You'd think that by now I would completely understand the whole DR thing. And I pretty-much do. I just need someone else to look at this, and say what I probably already know (if that makes sense).
I'm a B at 68%. So nowhere near the top of Bs. In this race I started P13 - HANG ON, I KNOW where I start doesn't matter to how my DR is affected, but just hear me out. As I said, I started P13 with a couple of Bs ahead of me. I finished P10, with only one B in front of me, all the rest were As. I even had one A finish behind me.
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So this was a decent race for me. I expected to gain a few DR points, because of how well the race went for me.
But my DR stayed exactly the same (to the pixel, anyway).
So is the issue just that too many people finished in front of me, even though they're mostly all As and I'm nowhere close right now? The reason I mentioned where I started was that (obviously) I would probably score better if I started higher up in the race (duh), so I know I need to improve my QT.
But anyway, yeah, there it is. I thought a good finish like this (for me), would have helped, but it didn't.
As an aside, it would REALLY be nice if more people were racing, so I didn't end up at the end of a mostly A lobby. But I guess those days are long gone. The shine is off, and people have moved on. Sigh. It's unfair for PD to get me solidly hooked on their drug, then have the distribution channel start to dry up. I guess that's life.
Just call me a ramblin' man. Trying tomake a livingplay some racin' and doing the best I can. (with apologies to the Allman Brothers)
DR is solely determined by your race finishing positions: a straightforward exchange of points between you, the people you beat, and people who beat you, scaled according to the relative difference in points between you.
But you do. The further ahead they are of you in terms of raw DR points, the less you lose, but you do lose points to them unless the difference is enormous.
For every car you finish in front of you gain:
80 - ((Player DR - Rival DR))/500)DR
For every car you finish behind, you lose:
80 + ((Player DR - Rival DR))/500)DR
As you can see, unless the difference is in excess of 39,500pt, you'll lose at least one point.
In a race where everyone has identical DR, this is the change in points after the race:
1: +1200
2: +1040
3: +880
4: +720
5: +560
6: +400
7: +240
8: +80
9: -80
10: -240
11: -400
12: -560
13: -720
14: -880
15: -1040
16: -1200
In the words of James Hunt "Big Balls"How do the aliens pull those low times at Goodwood? The 1'27.000 club is insane, don't know how they pulled those times off. And sometimes i'll drive a good lap and that durn obstacle before the finish line gets me.
You have to be really brave, and take lots of chances. As you will know, if you go off here it takes a long while to get back on track.How do the aliens pull those low times at Goodwood? The 1'27.000 club is insane, don't know how they pulled those times off. And sometimes i'll drive a good lap and that durn obstacle before the finish line gets me.
Good to see an opposite view from me. I watched the video again. I am unsure though if I agree with your view.I personally would not consider it a very sportsmanlike move, you only made the apex because you cut across to it and parked on it, if the car ahead were anywhere else you'd either piledrive them or shoot off to the end of the earth.
I've been on GTPlanet too long, I saw your name in his latest video and thought "Damn, I'm pretty sure I've seen that guy on GTPlanet before."So would I, I edited those bits out 🙈
I'm a bit worried that Super GT has enough ammo to make me look like a right amateur after last night 😂
He got lucky with it really as he was reacting to his own mistake and not really in full control of the car.Good to see an opposite view from me. I watched the video again. I am unsure though if I agree with your view.
What I see is that @AmateurDriver unintentionally braked slightly late (maybe by not taking slipstream into account), and in attempt to avoid hitting the gold Italia, he changed the lane. So “if the car ahead was elsewhere” was never going to apply.
Given AmateurDriver hit the apex, he unintentionally made a legit pass. It is the gold Italia who is at fault for hitting him by being too slow to react (not saying it is possible to react that fast) (more falls under racing incident).
I need some help guys. And opinions. Starting P6, I had a good fight for a podium. But to be fair, my last lap last turn overtake is a bit questionable. I feel like the driver in front hits the brake a bit too soon, so I had to move to the left to avoid contact. By doing so, I pretty much launched it into the hairpin and did the overtake for P3 which was not intentional at first. I didn't missed my brakingpoint, I didn't missed the apex and also really did not hit him... At the end of the race I’ve been called dirty by the driver I overtook. Now, I don’t think I agree with that, but maybe I'm missing out on something. So I was wondering how you guys look at a situation like this? You don't need to watch the whole race, the incident is on the last lap at the hairpin.
Haha yeah what happened?? Two updates ago people were creaming themselves over this car coming to the game, now it seems the rose coloured glasses have come off or something cause I'm seeing a lot of people whinging that its gonna be up in daily race B 🤷♂️I'm not seeing enough Alphard love in this thread.
Embrace the van and it shall carry you (and your family, very convenient and spacious!) to many victories.
what I read there was "you only made the apex because you did the things you needed to do to make the apex" which is like yeah kinda how racing works.I mean it was an absolute send - and it was past where you normally start braking (see pics). Couple that with the extra speed from the slipstream and you do unfortunately qualify for Dive Of The Century.
I personally would not consider it a very sportsmanlike move, you only made the apex because you cut across to it and parked on it, if the car ahead were anywhere else you'd either piledrive them or shoot off to the end of the earth.
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He ended up parked on the apex facing the outside of the corner because of the dive. I'm not sure of the universe wherein that's how you usually take a corner.what I read there was "you only made the apex because you did the things you needed to do to make the apex" which is like yeah kinda how racing works.
It was a spicy dive but ultimately successful. I do think the gold Ferrari hit the brakes earlier than needed, trailing car later than optimal, and then gold Ferrari jukes slightly to the left causing trailing car to have to pull hard left and at that point might as well go for the bomb.
There was slight contact on the part of the Ferrari on corner turn in but in GT racing I would not call that intentional contact or worthy of a penalty on either cars part.
Savvy bomb, almost perfectly executed, very spicy.
I need some help guys. And opinions. Starting P6, I had a good fight for a podium. But to be fair, my last lap last turn overtake is a bit questionable. I feel like the driver in front hits the brake a bit too soon, so I had to move to the left to avoid contact. By doing so, I pretty much launched it into the hairpin and did the overtake for P3 which was not intentional at first. I didn't missed my brakingpoint, I didn't missed the apex and also really did not hit him... At the end of the race I’ve been called dirty by the driver I overtook. Now, I don’t think I agree with that, but maybe I'm missing out on something. So I was wondering how you guys look at a situation like this? You don't need to watch the whole race, the incident is on the last lap at the hairpin.
Well where I'm from parking on the apex is legal, legit, and in situations like this required for a pass. Top screenshot is still under braking at that point and would have made it around the corner in my opinion. Wide yes, but made it around. Ferrari like Sturk said could have braked harder, not turned in where they did, and undercut the diving car and re-passed headed into the straight.He ended up parked on the apex facing the outside of the corner because of the dive. I'm not sure of the universe wherein that's how you usually take a corner.
He only made the corner properly because the gold Ferrari knocks him loose and helps him round, else he's taking an awful line and compromising his exit entirely.
Look at the difference in orientation between the two exits. You aren't making the corner normally with the first line whatsoever.
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