GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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General question: we still don't have to worry about oil/motor in Boped online races, right?
Nope, BOP overrides tunning oil etc.
Despite knowing that, Im still changing my oil at the start of each session :lol:

It is like checking the knob of your door when you are going out of your home even knowing that you properly locked the door.
 
Gotta say, this is a thoroughly garbage experience! Gonna settle in and watch a few videos you guys made of race A.
Race A is like visiting hell & coming back out in tears. I'm happy CGV has come but this isn't an apt race to welcome the track.

Mostly sticking with Race B & C.
 
General question: we still don't have to worry about oil/motor in Boped online races, right?
Depends, are you getting answers from the people who are convinced clean oil/new motor does nothing or are you getting answers from the people who are convinced that changing oil/changing motor has noticeable impact?

Personally I'm convinced it does and nobody can argue me out of that position. I'm sure someone else will come along shortly who says completely the opposite of me :D
 
Depends, are you getting answers from the people who are convinced clean oil/new motor does nothing or are you getting answers from the people who are convinced that changing oil/changing motor has noticeable impact?

Personally I'm convinced it does and nobody can argue me out of that position. I'm sure someone else will come along shortly who says completely the opposite of me :D
:D

In this case i have to watch more of Tidgneys videos again. The only one i would trust with that. Well, and Famine.
 
Depends, are you getting answers from the people who are convinced clean oil/new motor does nothing or are you getting answers from the people who are convinced that changing oil/changing motor has noticeable impact?

Personally I'm convinced it does and nobody can argue me out of that position. I'm sure someone else will come along shortly who says completely the opposite of me :D
I believe it does for two objective reasons with a bonus 3rd.

1. It’s in the game specifically to model certain engines performance characteristics, specifically revving and power performance that isn’t tied to weight or BHP

2. Bop only levels weight and power, it’s a sledgehammer approach that has to compete with the other systems. No hubris or ego, I can run at a consistent enough pace to feel and see the difference in my lap times

Bonus 3rd point:

When we are losing seconds to the top guys it’s not oil it’s ability, for them they can easily drive round the 1/10th here or there be see it more clearly as we aren’t even hitting their marks as clearly.

Summary:

I think it makes a negligible difference and that fast guys are just fast, it’s also a bit black box so we will never know but we can notice these things, I notice when I should go check my oil because it doesn’t “feel” right and in a game if something feels off it’s because of impact mentally or mechanically
 
Had a decent Daily Race C at Fuji, was good fun battling with the 296 GT3, but the 458 is still a very hefty Meta car and the Citreon for sum reason also! One dodgy german driver was pusshing, shoving and bumping past in a white AMG GT3 but he got his karma in the end!!

Might try the F-type Jag next!! In this, Managed a solid 5th place starting from the back of the grid.


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Had a decent Daily Race C at Fuji, was good fun battling with the 296 GT3, but the 458 is still a very hefty Meta car and the Citreon for sum reason also! One dodgy german driver was pusshing and buming past in the AMG GT3 but he got his karma!!

Might try the F-type Jag next!! In this, Managed a solid 5th place starting from the back of the grid.


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Apart from the both of the Ferrari cars, I prefer F-Type. You'll be surprised how much fun this car is, not to mention speedy on the straights with good acceleration. Calster 25 summed this car well saying it's an underrated car.

I'll try the Citroen as well today.

P.S. - Any of the daily races can be fun or not depending on the drivers present on the grid. One dirty driver is enough to spoil the entire race. I find it surprising some users pay subscription fee for being dirty!
 
Depends, are you getting answers from the people who are convinced clean oil/new motor does nothing or are you getting answers from the people who are convinced that changing oil/changing motor has noticeable impact?

Personally I'm convinced it does and nobody can argue me out of that position. I'm sure someone else will come along shortly who says completely the opposite of me :D

Whether it’s impacted or not isn’t an opinion. It’s objective fact. Anyone who thinks they need to be argued into accepting a fact is just admitting they’re willing to deny reality.

Do the experiment, and accept the results. It’s not that hard.
 
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I have a hard time with consistency in the racing line and the amount of braking in Fuji's last turn. It's so hard to brake consistently on a controller when you don't need 100 % braking.

I am braking 50-ish % from the moment the red barrier on the right leaves my screen, and I am taking quite a wide line (maybe a car's width from the kerbs). In some cases I go way too wide because my speed is still too high, in other cases I end up way too narrow so I'm having a very poor exit. Maybe once a race I nail the corner by pure chance. Taking a corner from the outside extremes of the track is clear to me, but that's not the quickest way in this particular corner. So my place on track during corner entry also varies a bit every time.

I have been looking at top time replays and some telemetry, but it's not so easy for me to copy it every corner. Maybe it's just a matter of keeping at it, until I am braking and cornering at the same speed and place every time.

On Tuesday I did 4 races: a P7, P8 and P9 finish despite several spins or punts in all of these races. One race I switched from hard tires to hard tires :banghead: and ended up last.
 
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This is exactly what I did for Race A, few races on alt account. I just wanted to try this combo, because I like SF cars, but on this track is total chaos...
People parking on apexes, crashing each other in front of you that you can't avoid them and you getting penalty for contact(!!!),
people forgetting that there are breaks in the car and sending you far far away... geez... SR straight from S to C within 5 races... 🤦‍♂️😵
And that GT7 collision physics...
Maybe if cars had proper damage, like wheels falling off, people would be less aggressive.
 
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I have a hard time with consistency in the racing line and the amount of braking in Fuji's last turn. It's so hard to brake consistently on a controller when you don't need 100 % braking.

I am braking 50-ish % from the moment the red barrier on the right leaves my screen, and I am taking quite a wide line (maybe a car's width from the kerbs). In some cases I go way too wide because my speed is still too high, in other cases I end up way too narrow so I'm having a very poor exit. Maybe once a race I nail the corner by pure chance. Taking a corner from the outside extremes of the track is clear to me, but that's not the quickest way in this particular corner. So my place on track during corner entry also varies a bit every time.

I have been looking at top time replays and some telemetry, but it's not so easy for me to copy it every corner. Maybe it's just a matter of keeping at it, until I am braking and cornering at the same speed and place every time.

On Tuesday I did 4 races: a P7, P8 and P9 finish despite several spins or punts in all of these races. One race I switched from hard tires to hard tires :banghead: and ended up last.
Keep at it dude you will master soon, the best way I mastered it before Calsters video posted in this thread is use the Circuit exprience to master that last corner, at Fuji. I was the same like you for a long time on Fuji, fudging up that corner, but the way I mastered is with the Slow-in > Fast out principle. Use the controller trigeer wiht gradual brake control and always adjust the balance of brakes. I managed this when we had a NSX GT2 TT at Fuji a while back, and noticed I got faster every time I exited that corner and applied it to other cars liek GT3 gorup cars.

Now when I do it, I am much quicker in GT3 cars, I can fumble it sometimes if I get bumped by another driver or my entry speed is too fast. But now we have the Data logger you can analyse your laps and really nitpick the details on your entry and exit speeds. I defo recommened Calsters video as he is so quick on a controller and his guides very useful.
 
I thought it was a bit odd that there's was no BoP update with Spec 3, but they've done it now in the bug fix 1.66 patch. Mostly weight drops for the Gr3s.
Are there still people testing and analyzing the performance of racecars after the BoP updates?
 
Looks like some of the older cars are getting big changes: DBR9, WRX, Atenza, McLaren F1, Mustang.

Weird that the RCZ and 911 are getting such big buffs, though. I thought they were already pretty competitive.
 
Found a (little) new love for Sports Mode, racing odd Gr.4 cars in daily races. Currently the Mustang and Jag at Yas Marina. Next up i I'll try the Viper and Vette.

After that Update I'll probably take my favourites to the green hell to get my personal performance analysis. But I'm not very consistent, so this isn't worth anything for anyone.
 
Found a (little) new love for Sports Mode, racing odd Gr.4 cars in daily races. Currently the Mustang and Jag at Yas Marina. Next up i I'll try the Viper and Vette.

After that Update I'll probably take my favourites to the green hell to get my personal performance analysis. But I'm not very consistent, so this isn't worth anything for anyone.
Good training as it looks like it might be Green Hell Gr4 next week.
 
Ah. Forgot about that. But I'm not sure if the Nordschleife in lower B lobbies is especially fun. :scared:

Especially when i arrive there. :lol:
 

Looks like some of the older cars are getting big changes: DBR9, WRX, Atenza, McLaren F1, Mustang.

Weird that the RCZ and 911 are getting such big buffs, though. I thought they were already pretty competitive.
Looking at the cold numbers for high speed bop the NSX, RCZ and WRX are now serious choices (The RCZ already was) but the surprise (for me at least) is that they give even more power to the F-type wich was a rocket in straight line.
I think it could turn into the META for the rest of the week at Fuji
 
the surprise (for me at least) is that they give even more power to the F-type wich was a rocket in straight line.
I think it could turn into the META for the rest of the week at Fuji
That is in the high-speed BoP. In the mid-speed one, the F-type is getting an increase in power and weight, which appear to be mostly cancelling each other out. Isn't Fuji classified as a mid-speed track? Maybe that car won't be affected much this week.
 
That is in the high-speed BoP. In the mid-speed one, the F-type is getting an increase in power and weight, which appear to be mostly cancelling each other out. Isn't Fuji classified as a mid-speed track? Maybe that car won't be affected much this week.
My bad. I assumed Fuji was classified as a high speed track but you are right, is a mid one so the F-type shouldnt stand out here.

The car wich might appear in the top leaderboards now is the R8 given it was already good in Fuji and now it had some weight reduction and max power increase.

I dont know if I will find the time tonight to check it so Im eager to read the comments of the people here doing daily C.
 
My bad. I assumed Fuji was classified as a high speed track but you are right, is a mid one so the F-type shouldnt stand out here.

The car wich might appear in the top leaderboards now is the R8 given it was already good in Fuji and now it had some weight reduction and max power increase.

I dont know if I will find the time tonight to check it so Im eager to read the comments of the people here doing daily C.
Yep - filtering the leaderboards down to the last 6 hours, 5 of the top 7 times at Fuji are in the R8.
 
On the struggle bus at Yas Marina, 5 seconds off the fastest time in the world!

To avoid destroying what’s left of my DR, I’ve been over at Fuji where my QT is the usual 2-3 seconds off the top times.

One question - are you all starting on softs if you’re at the sharp end of the grid? I’ve noticed in recent multi-tire races that some drivers choose the harder compound even if they’re at the front. I assume this is because the early laps are crowded and you can’t use the pace of the faster tire? Otoh, maybe softs allow you to get away and not get caught in the opening laps melee?

I started on softs last night (I was P2) and escaped the chaos, but then got caught by soft runners at the end of the race.
 
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On the struggle bus at Yas Marina, 5 seconds off the fastest time in the world!

To avoid destroying what’s left of my DR, I’ve been over at Fuji where my QT is the usual 2-3 seconds off the top times.

One question - are you all starting on softs if you’re at the sharp end of the grid? I’ve noticed in recent multi-tire races that some drivers choose the harder compound even if they’re at the front. I assume this is because the early laps are crowded and you can’t use the pace of the faster tire? Otoh, maybe softs allow you to get away and not get caught in the opening laps melee?

I started on softs last night (I was P2) and escaped the chaos, but then got caught by soft runners at the end of the race.
Softs are useful only if you're in 1st row and you wanna try to gain a significant margin before pitting, whilst others are fighting behind you. Still, your tyres saving ability is vital in this case. It's recommended btw to always start race C on the harder compound, regardless. At race start the car is heavy, so keeping the softer for 2nd stint can maximise their usage.
Better to stay in the slipstream of someone on softer compound (basically exploiting the slip to cancel their tyre's advantage), cause they need to pit earlier, but the undercut will not work 95% of the times.
 
One question - are you all starting on softs if you’re at the sharp end of the grid? I’ve noticed in recent multi-tire races that some drivers choose the harder compound even if they’re at the front. I assume this is because the early laps are crowded and you can’t use the pace of the faster tire?
You can´t use the pace of the softs because of traffic but also the tyre wear is much worse with full tank.
I can guarantee you that even starting in pole with softs you wont build a gap big enough to not get caught by the pack in the second stint (unless they fight each other like crazy on the first stint)
 
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