GTE Grand Touring Endurance - Smuffy, Furinkazen, Ferrari Champions!

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Also going to say that RPH tested all cars at new specs and got them within a second of each other at Le Mans :)
 
Whats with the stealth Furi?:sly: I'll be putting the Vette through its paces today someone kindly sent me one.:p Whats the tyre wear level normal??
 
V8-Johnboy
Whats with the stealth Furi?:sly: I'll be putting the Vette through its paces today someone kindly sent me one.:p Whats the tyre wear level normal??
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Normal. Weather change at 5, time progression 12.
 
Corvette results for Sarthe 2009.

Test carried out using a draft gearbox and 2 wheels on track at all times.:sly:

Zero Aero 4'08.889

Full Aero 4'10.017

I only did one out lap followed by one hot lap on each setting but both laps felt like I had squeezed all I could working within the boundaries.:)
 
I realise Furi is trying to balance the cars but I have to agree with Snow. If your going to spec a car, for God's sake stick to it.

What has been forgotton here is fuel consumption. The Vantage does drink a lot of fuel, thus come the pit stops it will be sat there longer than other other cars, hence dropping the BHP will disadvantage it further.

The Vantage was always going to be fastest at Le Mans that goes without saying, and dicking about with specs at every race is just stupid in my opinion.

600Bhp at Laguna?
 
FlyingFox
I realise Furi is trying to balance the cars but I have to agree with Snow. If your going to spec a car, for God's sake stick to it.

What has been forgotton here is fuel consumption. The Vantage does drink a lot of fuel, thus come the pit stops it will be sat there longer than other other cars, hence dropping the BHP will disadvantage it further.

The Vantage was always going to be fastest at Le Mans that goes without saying, and dicking about with specs at every race is just stupid in my opinion.

600Bhp at Laguna?
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502 for everywhere else.
 
FlyingFox
I realise Furi is trying to balance the cars but I have to agree with Snow. If your going to spec a car, for God's sake stick to it.

What has been forgotton here is fuel consumption. The Vantage does drink a lot of fuel, thus come the pit stops it will be sat there longer than other other cars, hence dropping the BHP will disadvantage it further.

The Vantage was always going to be fastest at Le Mans that goes without saying, and dicking about with specs at every race is just stupid in my opinion.

600Bhp at Laguna?
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The Vantage is fastest on the straights only. I don't even want to know how much other cars (mainly the mid-engine ones) are faster through the first sector and through the Porsche curves.

Fuel consumption is one more part of the equation. From what CJ said yesterday about the Ford's fuel consumption, there might be some cars being able to run a full hour in Le Mans. Evora, anyone? Apart from the longer standing times when you're on the same pit strategy (we'll see pitstops that will vary as much as 5 seconds, which is half a second a lap already), the Aston might even need one more pitstop than some other cars. That, you will never be able to catch up.

Having a Le Mans-only regulation is less bad than being penalised for the whole series, but I still think it's not exactly fair when you consider all factors. Plus, in yesterday's test we've seen pretty much every car do 4:08's. What was so bad about the Aston and the Ford doing them that they had to be penalised? 4:08's in the Aston are pretty much out of the question now, even when pushing like in qualifying. The Aston is therefore a midfield-car (speedwise) with worse fuel consumption for Le Mans now.

And what about the aliens in the Corvette that weren't at the test? The Corvette is just as fast on straights. I bet we will see surprises there now that the Vette can continue unrestricted.

If you want to balance performance from race to race, why not use success ballast?

Also, if the Aston had such a big advantage overall, why didn't anyone pick it from the get-go?
 
snowgt
The Vantage is fastest on the straights only. I don't even want to know how much other cars (mainly the mid-engine ones) are faster through the first sector and through the Porsche curves.

Fuel consumption is one more part of the equation. From what CJ said yesterday about the Ford's fuel consumption, there might be some cars being able to run a full hour in Le Mans. Evora, anyone? Apart from the longer standing times when you're on the same pit strategy (we'll see pitstops that will vary as much as 5 seconds, which is half a second a lap already), the Aston might even need one more pitstop than some other cars. That, you will never be able to catch up.

Having a Le Mans-only regulation is less bad than being penalised for the whole series, but I still think it's not exactly fair when you consider all factors. Plus, in yesterday's test we've seen pretty much every car do 4:08's. What was so bad about the Aston and the Ford doing them that they had to be penalised? 4:08's in the Aston are pretty much out of the question now, even when pushing like in qualifying. The Aston is therefore a midfield-car (speedwise) with worse fuel consumption for Le Mans now.

And what about the aliens in the Corvette that weren't at the test? The Corvette is just as fast on straights. I bet we will see surprises there now that the Vette can continue unrestricted.

If you want to balance performance from race to race, why not use success ballast?

Also, if the Aston had such a big advantage overall, why didn't anyone pick it from the get-go?
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As a compromise, 493hp?
 
Does anyone have a good set-up for the Ferrari? I'm using some set-ups from the GT5 Tuning subforum, but I can't go any faster than high 1'54s. :grumpy:
 
snowgt
The Vantage is fastest on the straights only. I don't even want to know how much other cars (mainly the mid-engine ones) are faster through the first sector and through the Porsche curves.

Fuel consumption is one more part of the equation. From what CJ said yesterday about the Ford's fuel consumption, there might be some cars being able to run a full hour in Le Mans. Evora, anyone? Apart from the longer standing times when you're on the same pit strategy (we'll see pitstops that will vary as much as 5 seconds, which is half a second a lap already), the Aston might even need one more pitstop than some other cars. That, you will never be able to catch up.

Having a Le Mans-only regulation is less bad than being penalised for the whole series, but I still think it's not exactly fair when you consider all factors. Plus, in yesterday's test we've seen pretty much every car do 4:08's. What was so bad about the Aston and the Ford doing them that they had to be penalised? 4:08's in the Aston are pretty much out of the question now, even when pushing like in qualifying. The Aston is therefore a midfield-car (speedwise) with worse fuel consumption for Le Mans now.

And what about the aliens in the Corvette that weren't at the test? The Corvette is just as fast on straights. I bet we will see surprises there now that the Vette can continue unrestricted.

If you want to balance performance from race to race, why not use success ballast?

Also, if the Aston had such a big advantage overall, why didn't anyone pick it from the get-go?
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I'm going to assume this alien you speak of is me, and I've already posted my times. But everyone thinks I'm a liar, which doesn't sit well with me.
 
R1600Turbo
I'm going to assume this alien you speak of is me, and I've already posted my times. But everyone thinks I'm a liar, which doesn't sit well with me.
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Niop is also in the corvette, and he has a very good track record round here. He was faster than me when we were testing for another series round here in the same car, this could be the another 'alien'. Not to mention Jet, who is in div 1 gold, so he could also come under the 'alien' category.
 
Basically, Furi has penalised the Astons because me and Kartman had very fast setups on, won't even be able to use them in race because of rain and tyre wear.
 
R1600Turbo
I'm going to assume this alien you speak of is me, and I've already posted my times. But everyone thinks I'm a liar, which doesn't sit well with me.
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Hey, I certainly did not say anything of that sort. I did not say nor did I mean to insinuate your posted times were not accurate. Nevertheless, my apologies, if you took it that way.

My reasoning was that we practically didn't have any indication of how fast the Vette was in the test, and given the fact there are some pretty fast people in it (I use the word "alien" appraisingly, not accusingly), it doesn't make sense to cut some cars' power and not others that are just as fast on the straights.

That's all there was.
 
snowgt
Hey, I certainly did not say anything of that sort. I did not say nor did I mean to insinuate your posted times were not accurate. Nevertheless, my apologies, if you took it that way.

My reasoning was that we practically didn't have any indication of how fast the Vette was in the test, and given the fact there are some pretty fast people in it (I use the word "alien" appraisingly, not accusingly), it doesn't make sense to cut some cars' power and not others that are just as fast on the straights.

That's all there was.
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👍

Likewise.
 
gokartman78
Niop is also in the corvette, and he has a very good track record round here. He was faster than me when we were testing for another series round here in the same car, this could be the another 'alien'.
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Say what? :lol:
 
R1600Turbo
I'm going to assume this alien you speak of is me, and I've already posted my times. But everyone thinks I'm a liar, which doesn't sit well with me.
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Chill man there is no one like that here. We're all good.

"Alien" is a relative term, meaning that the person is exceptionally good at driving in GT
 
Trux is final AM class Aston 👍

Will be releasing a final entry table soon, and taking a bit of time off :)
 
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FlyingFox
Chill man there is no one like that here. We're all good.

"Alien" is a relative term, meaning that the person is exceptionally good at driving in GT
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I know that.
 
Not going to be able to make this now. Apologies :(
Please give my seat to someone else.
 
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Trux
Not going to be able to make this now. Apologies :(
Please give my seat to someone else.
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Just as well I never updated thread title :lol:
 
Some questions about procedure:

About full course yellow on Le Mans: Cars will race towards start/finish or End of Mulsanne, but the yellow phase will still last a full lap, to allow damaged cars to pit and join at the back of the pack, right?

Also, is the starting formation a staggered 2x2 or real side by side? If it's the latter, what's the appropriate distance between rows? 1-2 car lengths?

What's the speed under yellow / on warm-up lap?

If I may make a suggestion, I think it's advisable for Le Mans to have a really slow starting speed, because otherwise the grid will not be able to form itself quickly enough after the last chicane.
 
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