GTP Cool Wall: 1965-1969 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint 1600 GTA

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1965-1969 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint 1600 GTA

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Since we now have America and the V8 in the thread.

V8 EVERYTHING!!!

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1970 GTV with a 2.6 V8 from a Alfa Montreal.
 
JMoney689
still only 170 hp
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"Only 170 hp" gets a superbike to nearly 200 miles an hour. (okay, off by twenty mph or so... you need 190 or more to break the mark. ) Horsepower ain't nothin' but a number. Weight ain't nothing but another number. You can have cars with little of both that perform brilliantly. You can also have cars that have an excess of weight that perform incredibly (R35 GT-R comes to mind). This is why I don't really care about numbers.

JMoney689
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Or this one?

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Sports car / roadster. Not a muscle car. And half-British, thus, like many half-bloods, incredibly sub-zero.

Sports car. Muscle car lovers give it lots of respect, though. I've read a Hot Rod* editorial detailing why, even though the Corvette really isn't, no... really... a muscle car, it deserves respect, anyway.

JMoney689
Everyone here is voting SZ or cool just because it's an old lightweight Alfa. That's not good enough reasoning.
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I didn't. I voted sub-zero because I think it's very cool.

JMoney689
Not knowing what something is isn't cool.
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JMoney689
And here you are talking about some mystery reason for the Alfa Magic BS that almost everyone but me here feels makes this car cool. And then you're going on and telling me what that reason isn't.
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As @SlipZtrEm noted... people who have no idea what a car is can take one look at a cool car and automatically declare "it's cool."

And that, basically, is what coolness is all about. It's your gut reaction, whether you possess an encyclopedic knowledge of the car or just see it passing on the street.

I am loathe to quote Clarkson on anything, but this line, from one of his books, seems particularly apt (paraphrased for brevity):

I've never driven one, and to be honest, I don't know very much about it. I don't know who designed it, or why Lancia decided to make it. I don't know if it was a rot box or a little gem.

But I do know that whenever I see one, I always say 'ooh look, a Fulvia'. I just like them, OK?
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JMoney689
The debate is ridiculous. This Alfa is going to be the first car to reach the icebox for no good reason at all. Because Alfa Magic. I feel like I'm arguing with Siri.
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If we were talking about a modern Alfa, or maybe even an AlfaSud (I predict a low cool, but personally... meh), you'd have a point. But this is one of the coolest Alfas around.

*thinking back, it might have been in Hemming's Muscle Machines. It's been a long time since I read it.
 
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Slash
How much do you even know about muscle cars? Because more than half of them weighed under 3,400 lbs, which is nearly 1,000 lbs less than some of the pigs that are out now and have similar drag coefficients.
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The hell it is.

3400lbs back then was a lot. Your beloved late 60s models tipped over 3000lbs for the base models. The same for Camaro and these were the pony cars. Famous 69 Charger? Well over 3300lbs with the base V8. Same with the Challenger. The Cutlass 442 was close to 4000lbs.

The little Alfa? 1600lbs.

Today's cars are not pigs like back then. They're heavy due to all the safety features and what not, & even then, they still weigh less in most regards.

Don't ask someone what they know about muscle cars if you're going to display that you don't know much about the other side of the spectrum.
 
To be fair, American cars from the 1960s generally were quite a bit larger as well. "Intermediate" B-Body Charger was half a foot longer and a few inches wider than the full size sedan with the name today.




I do think it's funny that Greyfox just said random names of American cars and tried to make that a point of itself, though. I'd also question how "affordable" and "cheap to run" the highly tuned limited edition homologation model with a completely bespoke body would be, even accounting for differences between European prices for European market cars and American ones.

Slash
Because more than half of them weighed under 3,400 lbs, which is nearly 1,000 lbs less than some of the pigs that are out now and have similar drag coefficients.
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The only cars on sale today that have similar drag coefficients to your typical car from the 1960s are pickup trucks.
 
Guys, if we want to be accurate the only "car" that looks anything like a brick is a charter bus.

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And yes, those actually are heavy as well.
 
SlipZtrEm
Who said anything about hating it? I love the 155.

Why do people find them uncool? Because what's cool about a car you could never drive? The Cool Wall - at least the inspiration for it, from TG - has always been about road cars, not racers. Obviously here, people are free to nominate race cars, but let's be honest, the only people who'd think you'd look cool pulling up to a club/bar/cafe in a race car would be car nerds. Car nerds aren't cool. To everyone else, you'd just look a douche-canoe.
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Pulling up outside a cafe wouldn't even be the issue with uncoolness. It's the team of technicians with laptops, external starter motors, remote batteries and engine fluid pre-heaters plugged into it which is necessary to start the thing that would make you look a tool. And thats before you kangaroo away in a flare of revs and stall it at the first set of lights.
 
niky
I am loathe to quote Clarkson on anything, but this line, from one of his books, seems particularly apt (paraphrased for brevity):
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Clarkson's Top 100 :D I have that book too.
If we were talking about a modern Alfa, or maybe even an AlfaSud (I predict a low cool, but personally... meh),
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The 'Sud has already been polled. Consensus was "uncool", because GTPers are all heathens :lol:
 
McLaren
Today's cars are not pigs like back then. They're heavy due to all the safety features and what not, & even then, they still weigh less in most regards.
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Weight is weight in my opinion, no matter where it comes from.


Sure, compacts weigh less, but there is a large number of cars that tip the scales between 3,500 and 4,500lbs.
 
1) That's a large range that again, most of your beloved muscle cars fall into.

2) Cars today actually know how to utilize their weight instead of being referred to as bricks.
 
Sub-zero... So long as it starts, when it doesn't it'd be seriously... only cool (I'm voting sub-zero).

It's gorgeous, it's an Alfa Romeo with an FR layout, it's from the 60s, and it has racing pedigree. With a live axle, I'm not sure if it'd even be good to drive today as a road car, which makes it even cooler because the people who are buying them are only buying them for its looks and sounds. SZ for sure.
 

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