HaB-Racing (ONLINE only): LM/LMP to 450-600pp roadcars sports tyres - 2015 revisions COMING SOON

Discussion in 'GT6 Tuning' started by Highlandor, Dec 13, 2013.

  1. ALB123

    ALB123

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    When I apply full weight reduction to this car I am at 954 KGs and not 969 KGs as you listed. I did change the rims. Do aftermarket wheels actually reduce the weight or did you just happen to make a mistake when typing up this tune? Either way, it's a fantastic ride. I'm not usually a fan of FWD/FF cars, but this car has no problem putting the power down to the ground. Nice tune... :tup:

    EDIT: I'm so pissed. I just ripped a couple of laps around Nordschleife, like I usually do with newly purchased cars, or newly applied tunes and then I decided I might as well run this bad boy in the 450PP Beginners Level Seasonal Event this week. I can't. This is not a "normal car". This thing has 249hp and 167lb/ft of torque. It has a power to weight ratio of 4.04 kg/HP! But, I supoose they have a reason for everything they do with the car classifications. :rolleyes:
     
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  2. Highlandor

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    Hi ALB..

    Yep, you're right, it wasn't full weight reduction, I only used stage 3 and didn't do the bonnet/windows as car is pretty light already (969kgs).

    I'll change the spec listing :tup:

    Sorry to hear you couldn't use it for the seasonals, I rarely do them other than just chucking something together, grabbing as many CR as possible in as few runs as possible, then forgetting about them. I tried a few of the roadcars on the Fuji seasonal, just to see how well the setups transfer over, but ormally I'd just run them online.

    I don't know, but guessing the 'TRD' means it's a tuned/tuner car (??), it's worth keeping as it's pretty fast on the tighter twisty circuits, was right up there with the other best FWDs I tested..

    The FWD/FF's setups are not the fastest hot lap settings, they're designed for more consistency in online racing. I found the fastest setups were not good in online racing as they were limited to a narrow racing line to carry the extra speed through the corner. But when you're in traffic/running off racing line for overtakes etc, it was harder to carry the extra speed and I found you ended up wearing the fr tyres more and being slower for the race distance.

    So I changed the setups to be a bit lower on overall fastest laptime but easier to run different lines/in traffic and protect the FR tyres, so overall race time was, on average, alot faster as the individual laptimes were more consistent.. If anything, the cars got faster and faster each lap, with optimum speed happening around 8-10kms into the race.

    We use tyre wear on quite fast, setting 3 of 4, the one down from the fastest tyre wear possible and ballast is banned. In races with less tyre wear and ballast being OK to use the cars would need a different setup and be alot faster. The ballast would give alot more natural balance to the car, so you don't have to worry about keeping it balanced aswell as making it turn, or worry too much about tyre wear.

    Thanks as always or checking out the tune.. :bowdown:

    :tup:
     
  3. Highlandor

    Highlandor

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    Lotus Elise 11R '04 - SPORTS hard - 450pp

    Stock: WEIGHT

    Racing exhaust
    Custom gearbox

    AERO - car is fairly stable, but can struggle when really pushing it through high speed direction changes (especially with bumps/kerbs), a little aero can help with this. This Elise doesn't have the discreet small custom rear spoiler, if it did, I'd be using that and changing rear aero to suit each track.

    * * * ALWAYS read 1st post before trying setup * * *

    Suspension (SOFT):

    110 / 110
    5.31 / 7.61
    2 / 1
    3 / 2
    7 / 6
    0.3 / 0.7
    -0.05 / +0.10

    Suspension (HARD):

    110 / 110
    6.55 / 11.15
    4 / 3
    5 / 5
    4 / 4
    0.3 / 0.7
    -0.15 / +0.05


    Racing brakes:

    4 / 5 (adjust to suit your style)

    LSD:

    14
    11
    23 (lower = more lift off oversteer/turn in, higher = more lift off stability/understeer

    NOTE:

    Important to adjust brake / LSD braking sensitivity to your style/needs

    I had another setup which was alot of fun hot lapping, not sure if it'll be any use, but thought I'd post it anyway, same as above but change springs, dampers, ARBs, toe:

    4.92 / 8.76
    1 / 1
    3 / 3
    7 / 7
    0.3 / 0.7
    -0.10 / +0.30

    Use brake to scrub off speed, then steer with throttle, if in doubt, hit the throttle hard :D might not be everyone's cuppa T...
     
  4. Highlandor

    Highlandor

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    Lotus Elise '96 - SPORTS hard - 450pp

    Stock: WEIGHT

    MID turbo & semi racing exhaust
    Custom gearbox

    AERO - car is fairly stable, but can struggle when really pushing it through high speed direction changes (especially with bumps/kerbs), a little aero can help with this. I used discreet custom rear spoiler & adjusted aero per track

    * * * ALWAYS read 1st post before trying setup * * *

    Suspension (SOFT):

    110 / 110
    4.56 / 6.73
    2 / 1
    3 / 2
    6 / 7
    0.3 / 0.7
    -0.05 / +0.10

    Suspension (HARD):

    110 / 110
    5.23 / 9.55
    3 / 3
    4 / 5
    5 / 4
    0.3 / 0.7
    -0.15 / +0.05


    Racing brakes:

    4 / 5 (adjust to suit your style)

    LSD:

    14
    11
    20 (lower = more lift off oversteer/turn in, higher = more lift off stability/understeer

    NOTE:

    Important to adjust brake / LSD braking sensitivity to your style/needs
     
  5. Highlandor

    Highlandor

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    Acura NSX '91 - SPORTS hard - 450pp

    Full weight reduction = 1117kgs
    Sports exhaust
    Custom gearbox


    * * * ALWAYS read 1st post before trying setup * * *

    Suspension (SOFT):

    115 / 115
    7.28 / 8.63
    2 / 1
    3 / 2
    6 / 7
    0.4 / 0.6
    -0.05 / +0.10

    Suspension (HARD):

    115 / 115
    10.32 / 13.87
    4 / 3
    5 / 5
    4 / 4
    0.4 / 0.6
    -0.05 / +0.10


    Racing brakes:

    4 / 5 (adjust to suit your style)

    LSD:

    12
    11
    25 (lower = more lift off oversteer/turn in, higher = more lift off stability/understeer

    NOTE:

    Important to adjust brake / LSD braking sensitivity to your style/needs for each track
     
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  6. Highlandor

    Highlandor

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    Honda NSX '01 - SPORTS hard - 450pp

    Stock weight

    Sports exhaust
    Custom gearbox


    * * * ALWAYS read 1st post before trying setup * * *

    Suspension (SOFT):

    110 / 110
    7.15 / 8.55
    2 / 1
    3 / 2
    6 / 7
    0.3 / 0.7
    -0.05 / +0.10

    Suspension (HARD):

    110 / 110
    9.67 / 12.83
    4 / 3
    5 / 5
    4 / 4
    0.3 / 0.7
    -0.05 / +0.10


    Racing brakes:

    4 / 5 (adjust to suit your style)

    LSD:

    10
    11
    23 (lower = more lift off oversteer/turn in, higher = more lift off stability/understeer

    NOTE:

    Important to adjust brake / LSD braking sensitivity to your style/needs for each track
     
  7. Highlandor

    Highlandor

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    BMW 330i - SPORTS hard - 450pp

    Full weight reduction = 1220kgs

    Racing exhaust
    Custom gearbox


    * * * ALWAYS read 1st post before trying setup * * *

    Suspension (SOFT):

    100 / 100
    4.77 / 7.63
    1 / 2
    2 / 3
    6 / 5
    0.4 / 0.6
    -0.15 / +0.02

    Suspension (HARD):

    100 / 100
    7.95 / 11.25
    3 / 4
    4 / 5
    4 / 3
    0.4 / 0.6
    -0.15 / +0.02


    Racing brakes:

    4 / 5 (adjust to suit your style)

    LSD:

    8
    11
    13 (lower = more lift off oversteer/turn in, higher = more lift off stability/understeer

    NOTE:

    Important to adjust brake / LSD braking sensitivity to your style/needs for each track
     
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  8. Highlandor

    Highlandor

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    Subaru Impreza Sport Wagon WRX STi Version V - SPORTS hard - 450pp

    STOCK weight & power

    Custom gearbox


    * * * ALWAYS read 1st post before trying setup * * *

    Suspension (SOFT):

    130 / 130
    4.24 / 5.73
    1 / 3
    2 / 4
    6 / 5
    0.3 / 0.7
    +0.10 / -0.10

    Suspension (HARD):

    130 / 130
    7.09 / 7.53
    3 / 5
    5 / 6
    3 / 3
    0.3 / 0.7
    +0.10 / -0.10


    Racing brakes:

    4 / 5 (adjust to suit your style)

    LSD:

    8 / 10
    22 / 11
    10 / 10
     
  9. Highlandor

    Highlandor

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    Subaru Legacy B4 Blizten '00 - SPORTS hard - 450pp

    Stage 2 weight reduction = 1261kgs
    Sports ehaust
    Custom gearbox


    * * * ALWAYS read 1st post before trying setup * * *

    Suspension (SOFT):

    130 / 130
    4.73 / 4.65
    1 / 4
    2 / 5
    6 / 5
    0.3 / 0.7
    +0.10 / -0.10

    Suspension (HARD):

    130 / 130
    8.82 / 6.35
    3 / 6
    5 / 7
    4 / 4
    0.3 / 0.7
    +0.10 / -0.10


    Racing brakes:

    4 / 5 (adjust to suit your style)

    LSD:

    8 / 8
    22 / 11
    8 / 8

    Fr/Rr torque split:

    25/75 - can go more to rear
     
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  10. Highlandor

    Highlandor

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    Subaru Legacy B4 2.0 spec.B '03 - SPORTS hard - 450pp

    Stock: weight & power
    Custom gearbox


    * * * ALWAYS read 1st post before trying setup * * *

    Suspension (SOFT):

    135 / 135
    4.14 / 7.88
    1 / 4
    2 / 5
    6 / 5
    0.3 / 0.7
    +0.10 / -0.10

    Suspension (HARD):

    135 / 135
    7.49 / 10.84
    3 / 6
    5 / 7
    4 / 4
    0.3 / 0.7
    +0.10 / -0.10


    Racing brakes:

    4 / 5 (adjust to suit your style)

    LSD:

    10 / 8
    22 / 11
    8 / 8

    Fr/Rr torque split:

    25/75 - can go more to rear
     
  11. Highlandor

    Highlandor

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    Mazda efini RX-7 Type R (FD) '91 - SPORTS hard - 450pp


    Stage 2 weight reduction = 1096kgs
    Sports exhaust
    Custom gearbox


    * * * ALWAYS read 1st post before trying setup * * *

    Suspension (SOFT):

    110 / 110
    7.45 / 6.19
    2 / 1
    3 / 2
    6 / 7
    0.4 / 0.6
    -0.05 / +0.10

    Suspension (HARD):

    110 / 110
    9.48 / 9.75
    4 / 3
    5 / 5
    5 / 5
    0.4 / 0.6
    -0.05 / +0.10


    Racing brakes:

    4 / 5 (adjust to suit your style)

    LSD:

    10
    11
    20 (lower = more lift off oversteer/turn in, higher = more lift off stability/understeer

    NOTE:

    Important to adjust brake / LSD braking sensitivity to your style/needs for each track
     
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  12. Darrell Large

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  13. Highlandor

    Highlandor

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    Hi Darrell..

    Thanks for checking out the HaB tunes :cheers:

    Good to see them working on different specs, the Toyota 2000GT is pretty awesome car, but can be liable to a bit of a loose rear end.

    I've just repaired my broken pedals so should have some more updates coming soon :tup:
     
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  14. dws3124

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    It works better on the hard set-up with racing hards,mediums,soft,an sports soft.
     
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  15. ALB123

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    I finally got around to buying this amazing car. What a great tune, @Highlandor!! I struggled with the stock setup quite a bit. The suspension was just terrible out of the Dealership. Well done!! :tup:
     
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  16. mKosen

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    Pls rebuild this car for 500pp on sport soft..

    Thx for the nice setups
     
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  17. ALB123

    ALB123

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    I actually applied these suspension and LSD settings to a newly purchased Mazda Eunos Roadster J-Limited (NA) '91 and the car drove great. Actually, I only drove the soft springs setup so far, but the hard springs setup is on Tab B ready to rock. I know my 1991 is a different car, but I figured it would be worth a shot since I couldn't find a tune for my model. No complaints at all. The car drives wonderfully! :tup: :cheers:
     
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  18. ALB123

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    I just wanted to point out that you are missing some figures from your HARD suspension setup.
     
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  19. kurnoe

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    very nice setup!!! thanks/
     
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  20. Racing ralf

    Racing ralf

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    I've added 50kg of ballast in the nose (-50). This increased traction and therefore performance and makes this great tune into possibly the best FF car. Thanks!

    Edit: online racing with the RS 08 revealed that the megane is fast on fast tracks like big willow. On tighter tracks it's weight is a disadvantage.
     
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  21. Sparky13

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    I am having fits with this car. I upgraded the power to outrun higher horse cars on the straights. As of now I'm sitting at about 955 hp. Do you have a suspension setup for a planted driving style. I've messed with it some but I just can't seem to cure the over steer when entering corners or clipping curbs at the apex of a turn. Also the rear of the car feels a bit jumpy when I get hard on the brakes. I play with a pad controller and sensitivity set to 4. Any help you could offer would be awesome.
     
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  22. GT_Astroboy

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    This is indeed a beautiful car and an exquisite tune. Very responsive to throttle on entry and exit. It takes finesse to drive the softer suspension.. "Sublime" is an accurate descriptor.
     
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  23. Prince.M5

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    Got to say mate, this is by far the best setup for the M5 that I've tried! Made the car very stable and the rear was very well planted to the track. Great job mate!
     
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  24. paoloevans

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    Love this :) thanks!
     
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  25. RiffleKing

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    There are a lot of gems in here! This is one of many that I'm glad not to have missed. :tup:
     
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  26. Racing ralf

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    50kg at -50 (nose) plus spoiler at the rear at +20 does not necessarily make this car quicker, but a lot easier to drive with this set up and you can drive more consistently (more foregiven when you make an small error).
     
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