Had some fun last night

[Ghost C]

Ghost C, what exactly have you proven? All of your arguments begin with "I've seen" or "I can". All you've proven is that we will read your obituary, which will end with "Speed was determined to be a factor."

Really? I don't particularly care for speed. Turns do it for me, not high speeds. I'm glad you assumed that just because I disagree with you, that I must be a jackass who routinely speeds, and that I'm incapable of controlling my car.

As for "I've seen" and "I can", what's more real - Your theories, or real world experience? I know which one I'll pick every time.

It is obvious that you still feel invincible behind the wheel, which means you can't be more than 18 years old. You're arguing with many people who have way more experience than you, and have since lost that feeling of invincibility, which tends to cloud judgement and logic.

I'm over 18, thank you. Do you think you have "way more experience" than me? I'm not new to driving, and I don't think I'm invincible - I just apparently know how to drive better than you do. Unless you are a total ****ing idiot, you are paying 100% attention to what's going on, and you KNOW something bad is going to happen at 160mph, and you are ready for it. I don't think I can put it any more clearly.

Let's try one more time to get this through to you. If you lose control of your car at 160 miles per hour (and who knows how that might happen; you certainly don't seem to think it's possible), the best thing that can happen is that the car will be totalled, and you will be seriously injured, if not dead. The more likely thing to happen is that they'll have to identify the car by the number stamped on the chassis, and identify you from dental records.

I don't think it's possible? Where did I say that? A skilled driver greatly reduces the chances of something bad happening, but there is always a chance. An asteroid could fall on your car while you're speeding. What I've been saying all along is that you guys are blowing the danger totally out of proportion. Maybe if you hadn't been sitting there with your eyes closed and your hands over your ears screaming "LALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU" the whole discussion, you would've realized that.

Let me give you a refresher...

"Puh-lease. Doing it with the headlights off is just as safe as with them on? Yeah, tell you what, stab yourself with a rubber knife, then do it with one out of your kitchen - C'mon, it'll be just as safe as the rubber knife!

Overdriving your tires by a few miles per hour is not going to rip them apart - Whoever you heard that from lied to you. And here's a fun fact, a Z that's factory limited to 160 comes with tires that will handle 160, that's why they're limited there."

 

[Kylehnat]

As for "I've seen" and "I can", what's more real - Your theories, or real world experience? I know which one I'll pick every time.

Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot. You are exempt from the laws of physics. Please accept my humblest apology. You win.

 

[slidesquad#1]

No matter what people say, there will ALWAYS be people street racing. And, there will ALWAYS be people involved who had nothing to do with the racers themselves.
My own recent experience: Coming home from work, around 12.45-1 in the morning. Empty road, but it had been raining. 2 traffic lights away from my street. Green on my side. Black Mazda rips through in front of me, running the red. Minimum speed would have been around 100 kays, I was doing 58-60ish. Instinctively, Im swerved to miss him, and because it was wet, and 60 kays is a decent amount of speed, I lost control and went into a pole. Yes, I'm sure there would have been drivers who could have brought the car back under control. But I'm equally sure there would be a lot more drivers who would have been in the same boat.

Result for street racer, who, incidentally, didn't bother stopping: An "OH SHYTE" moment. Nothing more.
Result for me: Car written off, spending time in hospital.

Atleast I know now, next time anyone gets in my way doing stuff they aren't meant to, I'm not moving anywhere. I get ****ed, they get ****ed too.

But yeah, do whatever you like...

 

[Ghost C]

You were doing 38mph and your car was totalled that bad, from a pole?

Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot. You are exempt from the laws of physics. Please accept my humblest apology. You win.

 

[xcsti]

A car running at a solid piece of metal at 30 mph, hmmm yep that does look about right.

The truth is that streetracers have the die hard attitude until something tragic happens to them or someone close to them. I do believe our speed limits are too slow but that does not make it right to excede them in any huge amount.

I really don't see how you fail to understand famine's arguement clearly.

 

[Ghost C]

That doesn't look right at all. My brother was involved in an accident in a car travelling 40mph a few years back, head on into another car doing 40, and the car was not totalled that bad.

This car belongs to a friend of mine, the damage was caused by a guard rail - Not a pole - At over 40mph.

 

[xcsti]

That doesn't look right at all. My brother was involved in an accident in a car travelling 40mph a few years back, head on into another car doing 40, and the car was not totalled that bad.

This car belongs to a friend of mine, the damage was caused by a guard rail - Not a pole - At over 40mph.

You know just as well as I do that every accident is different. It all depends on how the vehicle(s) make contact and how their forces are able to interact. It also depends on the type of car. Many cars are designed to take a significant amount of damage in order to keep the passengers safe. An older car built to be extremely sturdy will not deform as much, meaning less damage to the car itself but as a consequence it is more likely that the occupants are injured. Also it looks as if that guard rail incident was at a good angle.

 

[Casio]

Poles are about the worst thing you can hit. A pole distributes it's entire force on such a small area of the car. You'd be much better having a side-on impact with a concrete slab then a pole.

I assume your friend hit the side of a guard rail. Guard rails have some give in them, Powerpoles do not.

Look at the picture again, if that could happen at 38mph, what's going to happen if you lose control and hit something at 160mph.

 

[Taurine]

[PICTURE OF TEH BANG CRASHOR]

Whereabouts did you do that?

And Ghost C, don't you have some cars in your workshop you could be working on instead of sitting here on the internet arguing your reputation into the sewer...?

 

[Ghost C]

Reputation is all subjective.

I won't argue that I should be working on some cars right now, especially my own. I've been putting off making the template for a fiberglass front undertray for a week now. But I've been putting stuff off because I'm lazy, not because of this thread.

 

[GT4_Rule]

Let's keep the argument going

Its a good one.

 

[Famine]

That doesn't look right at all. My brother was involved in an accident in a car travelling 40mph a few years back, head on into another car doing 40, and the car was not totalled that bad.

This car belongs to a friend of mine, the damage was caused by a guard rail - Not a pole - At over 40mph.

Considering he said 58-60mph...

 

[Casio]

I was doing 58-60ish. Instinctively, Im swerved to miss him, and because it was wet, and 60 kays is a decent amount of speed, I lost control and went into a pole.

I hate to side with him, but....

 

[Famine]

Good point. Bloody metricalians!

I suppose when you say someone was "going 100" it sounds more impressive than "59mph".

 

[DeLoreanBrown]

Wow, from Casio's NTNU site i managed to stop @ 270km/h in 28.3m !
.014s was my reaction time on 2.55s for the braking, its all possible w/ ABS

 

[Kylehnat]

You have to hit enter when you enter a new speed into the box.

 

[Small_Fryz]

I will just say one thing in this arguement.

I ride my motobike at 60 - 70mph down bush tracks, most narrower than a car and trees lined each side, which i think would be equivilant to driving at least 100mph on a highway. And i must say I have never concentrated more than i do at those moments. If doing 160mph is anything like riding that bike 70mph in the bush tracks, over rocks and ruts/bumps near trees than i can vouch you wont be half asleep, if you were you would of crashed already. This means i think you are in the best possible frame of mind for taking evasive action for what ever comes into your path or arises. I wouldnt have a clue how fast my reaction times are in those situations, yes while im not going any faster than normal highway driving, i just cant see all that far ahead, so it makes it much faster than it is.

Basically my point is, when doing these activities you are indeed ready to hit the brakes and swerve 5 seconds ago. Also things happen sub concsiously, by the time ive realised the bike has slid or ive hit a rock i didnt see, ive already corrected it or in the opposite case, im already off the track dodging trees You have no time to think, you either do it or you dont. Thats what reflexes are.

 

[slidesquad#1]

Ghost C, yeah, I did do that going into a pole at 38 mph. Wouldn't have posted it up otherwise, and there were witnesses to back this up. Do a bit of research into the NZ Police's attitude towards young drivers, and remember that if they can get you for ANYTHING, they will, and probably book you for stuff they can't really get you for. The only thing I got was a visit from Victim Support. Don't believe me about the cop attitude, ask ANY member from New Zealand here, and there's a fair few around.

Taurine: Lincoln Road, West Auckland.

 

[Jay]

. Do a bit of research into the NZ Police's attitude towards young drivers, and remember that if they can get you for ANYTHING, they will, and probably book you for stuff they can't really get you for. The only thing I got was a visit from Victim Support. Don't believe me about the cop attitude, ask ANY member from New Zealand here, and there's a fair few around.

I completely believe you, cops are the same here.

 

[Small_Fryz]

Cops are indeed just as mental about speeding and hoons in Australia, i can vouch for it also 👍

 

[skylineGTR_guy]

Are you all happy now? Its at a track.

http://www.zshare.net/video/evo-v-z-final-mpg.html