Still there must be a way to make sure the device doesn't accept an overload of BS users without shutting down? Maybe we just don't know it yet and it has to be figured out still, but if it's causing that's much trouble i would start searching for a workaround.Yes - turn the device off.
A denial of service is simply more users trying to use the device at once than the device can handle, be it two people on a calculator or 50 million on SEN. It's not a hack or a crack, or a compromise of data - it's just lots of people trying to use the thing to do what it normally does. If you design the device to be used over a network, the only way you can prevent it is to allow it to handle the entire network at once - and if that network is the internet, good luck.
Sure, if you had all the money on Earth you could build a server farm capable of handling all 10 billion devices on the internet at once (though you'll need to upgrade frequently - it'll be an order of magnitude more than that by 2020), but for a gaming network that costs most of its 100 million potential users nothing at all, that's expecting far too much.
Still there must be a way to make sure the device doesn't accept an overload of BS users without shutting down?
As I said. There's no way to tell the difference between someone who wants to use the device and someone who wants to jab at the keys so that they can't.A denial of service attack can be mitigated somewhat with software, but in doing so it will also restrict normal operations.
What he said
Its a bit like trying to get through the blackwall tunnel in monday morning rush hour
For those that know it.
Could be figured out still? In any case i'm only half a nerd so i wouldn't be able to imagine it. Maybe Sony should hire that geek from the lizard squad.As I said. There's no way to tell the difference between someone who wants to use the device and someone who wants to jab at the keys so that they can't.
Not until we've got AI that knows when someone is lying and can learn the difference between someone downloading the latest GT6 update because they want the latest GT6 update and someone downloading it because they want to tie the server up with a request for a very large file...Could be figured out still?
All that they did was flood a device with more requests than it can handle. Their sole talent is jabbing at the keys of a calculator while someone else is trying to use it...In any case i'm only half a nerd so i wouldn't be able to imagine it. Maybe Sony should hire that geek from the lizard squad.
Could be figured out still? In any case i'm only half a nerd so i wouldn't be able to imagine it. Maybe Sony should hire that geek from the lizard squad.
Maybe there is a way to identifying when there is an unusual amount of prank callers trying to ring you at the same time? Although it's utterly difficult to find a way to prevent it, surely it cannot be the impossible.I can't think of a good analogy, but I'll try.
Imagine you have a prank caller ringing you constantly. You can block their number, change your own number or even get an additional phone line so that you have one free while the other is always ringing. There's nothing to stop the prank caller getting a few people to ring you from multiple other phones at the same time and you're still not going to know who is on the other end without answering the phone, it could be your mother or boss ringing you from their new mobile phone too for all you know.
And no, LizardSquad guys wouldn't know jack on how to stop a DDoS attack.
Maybe there is a way to identifying when there is an unusual amount of prank callers trying to ring you at the same time? Although it's utterly difficult to find a way to prevent it, surely it cannot be the impossible.
Here's hoping the PS3 side of PSN will still work when I get a chance to download the latest and greatest VGT's and Seasonals on Monday...
On Thursday, Lizard Squad said they initially wanted to take down PlayStation Network and Xbox Live “for the laughs,” but eventually the collective found a cause to rally behind: forcing these companies to upgrade the security on their networks.
It's unclear how Dotcom's offer solves any of those issues, but perhaps the Lizard Squad members felt they got their point across, and settled to exit with their prizes: lifetime memberships to Dotcom's new privacy service.
Isn't that what that funky letter/number sign in thing is for that you have to go through sometimes to identify whether it's a human or a bot trying to gain access to something? Not sure what it's called but I assume it's there because a bot can't figure it out. Would that work?Not until we've got AI that knows when someone is lying and can learn the difference between someone downloading the latest GT6 update because they want the latest GT6 update and someone downloading it because they want to tie the server up with a request for a very large file...All that they did was flood a device with more requests than it can handle. Their sole talent is jabbing at the keys of a calculator while someone else is trying to use it...
I think you mean captcha?Isn't that what that funky letter/number sign in thing is for that you have to go through sometimes to identify whether it's a human or a bot trying to gain access to something? Not sure what it's called but I assume it's there because a bot can't figure it out. Would that work?
People launching DDoS attacks to motivate devs to "improve their security". Yeah, right.
I remember when trolling was done to drink the delicious tears of people who took themselves too seriously and not... This. I'd even argue that this is not doing things "4 teh lulz", but because you're an arsehole.
It is becoming clear, at this point, that online-based services need to implement anti-BOTting solutions in their login process. Captcha would be a good start; so would be authentication tokens and redundant servers (try DDoSing EVE Online and see what happens). Of course Microsoft has an interest in implementing anti-DDoS technologies in a service for which they're asking money, but... Sony? Hell, PSN is free, why should they care?
As for GT... Many of us are pissed because we're at a risk of losing our 200% bonus while there are high-paying seasonals out. Know what the solution would be? Issue the payout bonus as a token, valid for 24 hours that's downloaded when you become eligible. That way, even if you get disconnected you still get your bonuses.
Also, @carracerptp : Captcha may fail in many places, but it's still better than nothing.
Haha or maybe it just depends on location
I cannot believe how childish the name 'lizard squad' is. I mean come on! And Finest squad. and Anonymous.
Can't say... I don't know what their motives were. So far it seems like they were just looking for attention but that could be wrong. Perhaps someone could enlighten me?
Haven't heard anything about free games anymore. Maybe it was just that one site and hope to bring holiday joy to them.