how do you tame the car with all aids off

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How do you tame a car with all aids off etc skid and traction off

Here are some of my observation ideas
Use 4wd or ff cars fr cars to some extend
Approach a corner at high gear lowering to lower gears gradually
Use manual transmission

Any other tips that can improve control and lap times while avoiding skid ?
 
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Use manual gearing:p;)
And Caps in the beginning of sentences also,btw!
 
godzidane
how do you tame a car with all aids off etc skid and traction off

here are some of my observation ideas
use 4wd or ff cars fr cars to some extend
approach a corner at high gear lowering to lower gears gradually
use manual transmission

any other tips that can improve control and lap times while avoiding skid ?
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You started another thread where you claimed, that automatic shifting is faster and here you start to say, we should use manual transmission?

You're probably confused?
 
Big Ron
You started another thread where you claimed, that automatic shifting is faster and here you start to say, we should use manual transmission?

You're probably confused?
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manual is definitely better at controlling skid when compared in conjuction with speed

and doesn't mean i don't know how to drive manual lol
 
godzidane
manual is definitely better at controlling skid when compared in conjuction with speed

and doesn't mean i don't know how to drive manual lol
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But You don't know(want) how to Capitalize do You?!:sly:

It's like gearing...before You go full throttle on a sentence You engage caps lock.💡
 
Mate that 4 threads you have started in about an hour, you need to give other people a chance to let their threads be seen
 
PAWEL17
Trying the FGT with no aids is madness!
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So any way to tame the beast ? or just pure concentration that is all required ? i can't see myself concentrating all the time

Sure there must be better ways

Come to think of it if you know or can tune your car it helps right
 
godzidane
So any way to tame the beast ? or just pure concentration that is all required ? i can't see myself concentrating all the time

Sure there must be better ways

Come to think of it if you know or can tune your car it helps right
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Manual, shifting before hitting rev limit, also, not putting your foot completley down when braking(or not squeezing too hard on L2/R2 what ever your prefrence), and also accelerator control, don't go 100% out of a corner, all this makes for a true simulation(what GT5 is good at).
 
godzidane
So any way to tame the beast ? or just pure concentration that is all required ? i can't see myself concentrating all the time

Sure there must be better ways

Come to think of it if you know or can tune your car it helps right
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In aspect of tuning, setting the gear ratio's and suspension, or using soft racing tyres or changing wing angle for more downforce. Thats all i can offer as help.
 
Well adjusted suspension and brake balance does the trick. I was reasonable happy one of patches brought weight ballast. Now I'm able to 'tame' RUF CTR '86 better for my liking driving style.
 
The only aid I nearly require is ABS, which I usually leave at 1. With that off you need to be very aware of your driving line, and feather the brake with your vehicle's speed and turning radius. If you don't brake in nearly a straight line, or use too much brake, you're very liable to lose control of the vehicle, or at the very least leave your intended driving line.

I find ABS the hardest to turn (completely) off, in GT5 and other games as well.
 
Tappajakoala
Well adjusted suspension and brake balance does the trick. I was reasonable happy one of patches brought weight ballast. Now I'm able to 'tame' RUF CTR '86 better for my liking driving style.
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Does adding weight to a car improve the control of a vehicle ? Is there such thing as too light a car ? Does weight to hp ratio really matter ?

When you add more weight I see performance points reduced
 
godzidane, nissman,

Actually weight can improve control of a vehicle. For example in many FIA flagged motorsport series cars are given min-weight to pass regulations. Teams will build their cars under it and set car into balance with ballast weights to pass min-weight rule.

RUF Yellow Bird is wild car and if you went to get all weight reducions for it, you quickly notice it's very light car from front. Fitting some "lost" weight into position you prefer, gets car more drivable.
 
Tappajakoala
godzidane, nissman,

Actually weight can improve control of a vehicle. For example in many FIA flagged motorsport series cars are given min-weight to pass regulations. Teams will build their cars under it and set car into balance with ballast weights to pass min-weight rule.

RUF Yellow Bird is wild car and if you went to get all weight reducions for it, you quickly notice it's very light car from front. Fitting some "lost" weight into position you prefer, gets car more drivable.
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Why does an F1 car have 500 kg then?

Yes they pass the regulations but they are not faster becouse of it, probablly slower.
Also did you hear of weight balast rule in motorsprts. They add weight to cars, simply becouse they are to fast so they add weight to even out the field.
Weight will never help you with cornering speed. Weight pushes the car out of the corner not in.
 
Tappajakoala
godzidane, nissman,

Actually weight can improve control of a vehicle. For example in many FIA flagged motorsport series cars are given min-weight to pass regulations. Teams will build their cars under it and set car into balance with ballast weights to pass min-weight rule.

RUF Yellow Bird is wild car and if you went to get all weight reducions for it, you quickly notice it's very light car from front. Fitting some "lost" weight into position you prefer, gets car more drivable.
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That's true, but if you don't have min-weight limits, I would suggest to not put ballast on the car if possible, and try to drive it how it is, because weight makes you slower. I prefer to try to tame the car as it is, or changing some suspension settings, ballast is a thing that I add only if all other settings doesn't work.
 
Nissman,

Never heard saying sometimes to go faster, you have to drive slower? :dopey:

Speed is not everything, with weight ballast you have more freedom to balance car for various tracks. More car is underweighted to face regulations more freedom team and driver has to adjust car better by adding weight pieces (ballast) into car.

With weight you just don't play with speed, but other parts too: brakes, suspension, cornering, tire temperature, tire pressure, camper and all.
 
Andy89,

I have nice behaving - well, it won't kick and bite me very hard anymore - RUF in GT5 I enjoy driving Nürburgring. There's few uphills, car just would like to go flying because front is way too light. I can't get aero parts fro it, car has rear engine and huge rear wing, but nothing really to keep front down. It felt understeering everytime, Now I'm looking for best amount of ballast to front and make it feel better for my liking. :)
 
Tappajakoala
Nissman,

Never heard saying sometimes to go faster, you have to drive slower? :dopey:

Speed is not everything, with weight ballast you have more freedom to balance car for various tracks. More car is underweighted to face regulations more freedom team and driver has to adjust car better by adding weight pieces (ballast) into car.

With weight you just don't play with speed, but other parts too: brakes, suspension, cornering, tire temperature, tire pressure, camper and all.
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I agree, ballast can definatly help with weight balance and to adapt the car to various track, but have you ever seen some team adding on purpose ballast to change the balance of the car? I mean, if you are not in the necessity to add weight (E.G. to access a competition with min-weight limits), it's better not to add weight. At least it's my modest opinion, I prefer to change other settings to find the ideal setup of my car instead of adding ballast.
 
Tappajakoala
Nissman,

Never heard saying sometimes to go faster, you have to drive slower? :dopey:

Speed is not everything, with weight ballast you have more freedom to balance car for various tracks. More car is underweighted to face regulations more freedom team and driver has to adjust car better by adding weight pieces (ballast) into car.

With weight you just don't play with speed, but other parts too: brakes, suspension, cornering, tire temperature, tire pressure, camper and all.
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I get your point tunning wise but still weight in most cases will make you slower.

Lotus Elise 111R is the fastest production car in a corner. I wonder why...
 

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