How many of you are having problems with Force Feedback since this new update?

[UKWSeal]

I use a T300 and I turned it down to 4/3 from 5/5. Gr.3 cars were feeling like Gr.1 cars with it at 5 and the motor really whines a lot now that PD made every little bump and crease on the road to be sent through the wheel. More feedback is not always needed. It can just be a distraction from what you really need to feel.

Anyway, if you feel no front end steering feel it could be your suspension settings. If you run a lot of tunes from praiano63 a lot of your cars are set up with highly raked ride heights. You need to lower your rear suspension height to something much more reasonable. Try having the rear 25mm higher than the front instead of 90mm higher. That should increase your steering feel.

I play also Wreckfest. The FFB strengh in this game is insame. Ingame max. 35% not more.

But the torque in GT7 is not the probleme.

There is no more counter pressure ( ffb effekt ). But what would be normal because centrifugal forces also act on the frontwheels.
The return to the middle is also completely missing. And every car has that. Unless it's over 50 years old.

I'm now more beside the track than on it. My DR is A+. In the online time trial with Pad I drove 1.26.450. Don't even come close to getting there with a steering wheel.

 

[KoupeKing]

Anything over 3 will cause clipping on the T300. I settled on strength 3, sensitivity 3. Feels perfect on these settings.
You could bump strength up to 4 on SOME road cars for a bit more feel, but not many without clipping. Clipping destroys the T300 as has been shown many times in the past

 

[djolliea]

Anything over 3 will cause clipping on the T300. I settled on strength 3, sensitivity 3. Feels perfect on these settings.
You could bump strength up to 4 on SOME road cars for a bit more feel, but not many without clipping. Clipping destroys the T300 as has been shown many times in the past

I've only experienced clipping on my brand new T300RS GT when I've set strength >5 on race cars and the Super Formula. And from what I've read it's not the actual clipping that destroys the wheel but overheating when clipping constantly.

 

[CMB350]

G29 here and the FFB feels much better. Much heavier, the bumps are more pronounced and I can feel the heft of the cars more.

That’s not what I get with the G29. I tried numerous settings last night and could not find a sweet spot.

What are your settings?

 

[ants818]

Fanatec DD1 and it feels way better after the 1.31 update.

FFB set at 60 (60% of 20Nm = 12Nm)

In game: FFB Torque 5 & FFB Sensitivity 1

 

[Abu_Azrael613]

I've only experienced clipping on my brand new T300RS GT when I've set strength >5 on race cars and the Super Formula. And from what I've read it's not the actual clipping that destroys the wheel but overheating when clipping constantly.

I've got a T300rs with an upgraded fan; i was initially running it at 4 and 2, but last night I tried 4 and 6 and i'm really liking it. I haven't noticed any clipping at 4 strength. I tried going down to 3 but found the wheel didn't have enough weight.

 

[djolliea]

I've got a T300rs with an upgraded fan; i was initially running it at 4 and 2, but last night I tried 4 and 6 and i'm really liking it. I haven't noticed any clipping at 4 strength. I tried going down to 3 but found the wheel didn't have enough weight.

I'm running very similar settings atm, 4/7, and really like it. I'm a little worried about overheating because I do lots of long sessions. May have to upgrade the fan at some point.

 

[Abu_Azrael613]

I'm running very similar settings atm, 4/7, and really like it. I'm a little worried about overheating because I do lots of long sessions. May have to upgrade the fan at some point.

Definitely recommend the fan upgrade sooner rather than later. It took me less than hour to do start to finish and the upgrade to performance is really noticeable. I did 4/2 the first few days but have been trying higher sensitivity, between 6-8. I feel like 4-6 is the sweet spot for me.

 

[SrHims]

Definitely recommend the fan upgrade sooner rather than later. It took me less than hour to do start to finish and the upgrade to performance is really noticeable. I did 4/2 the first few days but have been trying higher sensitivity, between 6-8. I feel like 4-6 is the sweet spot for me.

5 months with the T300 and I still don't know what the sensitivity setting does. Can you explain it to me? Right now I'm feeling comfortable with 3-1.

 

[Kino321-X]

That’s not what I get with the G29. I tried numerous settings last night and could not find a sweet spot.

What are your settings?

I agree. After tweaking settings for a few days I’m finding torque 8-10 and sensitivity 1-3 to be the most acceptable, but the torque is still nowhere close to pre update 1.31. The G29 used to react more energetically during oversteer and now it just feels way more limp. There’s more detail (I think unless placebo) mid turn, just with way less torque now.

I’m running with controller steering sensitivity at 7 - if that makes any impact on FFB at all. Steering inputs before and after the update feel the same at 7. Would I need to play around with this setting for an FFB difference?

G29 here and the FFB feels much better. Much heavier, the bumps are more pronounced and I can feel the heft of the cars more.

Please share your settings!

 

[PacingRage]

I use a T300 and I turned it down to 4/3 from 5/5. Gr.3 cars were feeling like Gr.1 cars with it at 5 and the motor really whines a lot now that PD made every little bump and crease on the road to be sent through the wheel. More feedback is not always needed. It can just be a distraction from what you really need to feel.

Anyway, if you feel no front end steering feel it could be your suspension settings. If you run a lot of tunes from praiano63 a lot of your cars are set up with highly raked ride heights. You need to lower your rear suspension height to something much more reasonable. Try having the rear 25mm higher than the front instead of 90mm higher. That should increase your steering feel.

Yeah I've tweeted at Polly-D and tried to get some feedback from somewhere or someone to no effect. I have a T300rs that was working fine before 1.31 with the control panel of the wheel itself set to

Overall force: 40%
Constant: 30%
Periodic: 35%
Spring: 0%
Damper: 0%

The game being given re-centering control but tried without it both times at 0%

And then several settings going all the way to 0% across the board and restarting the game on ps5, several times,

And on the game under FFB settings under control settings (in the only 2 places you can do anything about it unlike every other Sim on just about every platform I also race on psn with) that you mentioned, it's always been at 1 and 1 for Torque and Sensitivity since GT-Sport and that FFB Fiasco the first few months of it.

All that is to say it doesn't matter what I do with the PC settings for the wheel, the results are nil and the wheel has to be muscled around corners and grind into the track at every chance.

By comparison, ACC settings in the PC control settings for PSN (or PC) for the T300 are ridiculous and wouldn't matter in this game but if I connect my Fanatec CSL F1 Elite yadayada I have to turn torque and sensitivity up to 3 and 2 respectively to get any response close to what I like and can tweak on a granular level. On every other Sim.

Back to the T300 I tried across race cars and street cars with Polly-D's default tunes since you can't tune cars in online daily races and it didn't matter. My wheelbase is 7yrs old and my rig older. It hasn't been a problem until now with GT7. It isn't a problem anywhere else.

 

[lolofantic]

G29 before 3-10
Now 5-5

 

[klondike]

I only played a little before 1.31. Since I was not liking the game that much prior to getting the PSVR2 (Now I like it insanely much)

I always felt that the GT Series was way behind games like AC, and ACC. I really wish someone at PD would try to make the FFB more like those games.

With my G29 I use 5-1 which seems to be the best I can have in this game after 1.31.

 

[hawkeyez]

G Pro. Feels fine to me. Cars feel lighter, but only when running comfort tires, sport tires there’s a little more strength and racing tires feels like it used to. I’m glad the wheel gets light when you enter a corner too fast to let you know your tires are slipping. They used to scrub really hard almost like they were hopping. I always thought that felt odd.

if we can only convince them to give us a customizable HUD with opacity to allow us to display only the things we want. Displaying tire temps would be nice too. Give us some ET Slot mags for older cars and white lettering tires like you get on the trans am if you change tires to sport.

And for the love of god please show us which tires are currently on our car in the garage. If I set a room to 600pp Sports Hard, everybody in the room if they have to tune a car to match, they have to hop in a car to see what tire are on it to see if it’s eligible to tune. So you grab a car that’s 550pp thinking it’s got comfort tires on, oops it has sports soft, that won’t work. Back in to find another car. It’s a real pain.

 

[Abu_Azrael613]

5 months with the T300 and I still don't know what the sensitivity setting does. Can you explain it to me? Right now I'm feeling comfortable with 3-1.

I couldnt say for certain what it does exactly except for what I think from what my experience. It would seem to me that the lower the sensitivity, the lighter you wheel when turning, but more granular detail from the road. A higher sensitivity will make your wheel feel more resistant when you turn it, and in my experience, the feeling of the tires is more present at higher sensitivity. I just ordered myself a TGT2 so i'm guessing all these settings will change for me.

Since the update, i've been running 4 torque, 6 sensitivity and it feels really nice to me.

 

[KaYibE]

On a T300 and also a lot better, much more dynamic forces, the wheel get lighter when understeering which is a huge improvement compared to old patch, a lot more engaging overall road surface and so on, over the kurbs now i actually feel from each side of the road and also more or less load and strengh on the FFB depending of the weight destribution over curbs.
Running normally at 4/2 or 4/1, 2/1 or 3/1, its not very consistent since update so i tweak accordingly the car/feel...

I read here people using 8 and 10 on strengh on this entry lvl wheels..., those electric motors will fade.

 

[djolliea]

5 months with the T300 and I still don't know what the sensitivity setting does. Can you explain it to me? Right now I'm feeling comfortable with 3-1.

I'm not sure why but I find cars harder to control with too low sensitivity setting. My sweet spot seems to be ~6-7. Anything lower makes catching slides and controlled drifts harder. 8-10 and cars begin to feel robotic. I'm guessing it has something to do with tire feel like @Abu_Azrael613 said. Best to just try different settings and settle for what feels best for you and your driving style.

 

[StarMeKitten]

For me FFB for the G29 is massively improved with this update. My current settings are 3 / 1.

 

[Abu_Azrael613]

Yeah I've tweeted at Polly-D and tried to get some feedback from somewhere or someone to no effect. I have a T300rs that was working fine before 1.31 with the control panel of the wheel itself set to

Overall force: 40%
Constant: 30%
Periodic: 35%
Spring: 0%
Damper: 0%

The game being given re-centering control but tried without it both times at 0%

And then several settings going all the way to 0% across the board and restarting the game on ps5, several times,

And on the game under FFB settings under control settings (in the only 2 places you can do anything about it unlike every other Sim on just about every platform I also race on psn with) that you mentioned, it's always been at 1 and 1 for Torque and Sensitivity since GT-Sport and that FFB Fiasco the first few months of it.

All that is to say it doesn't matter what I do with the PC settings for the wheel, the results are nil and the wheel has to be muscled around corners and grind into the track at every chance.

By comparison, ACC settings in the PC control settings for PSN (or PC) for the T300 are ridiculous and wouldn't matter in this game but if I connect my Fanatec CSL F1 Elite yadayada I have to turn torque and sensitivity up to 3 and 2 respectively to get any response close to what I like and can tweak on a granular level. On every other Sim.

Back to the T300 I tried across race cars and street cars with Polly-D's default tunes since you can't tune cars in online daily races and it didn't matter. My wheelbase is 7yrs old and my rig older. It hasn't been a problem until now with GT7. It isn't a problem anywhere else.

Adjusting the settings on a PC will not change how the wheel performs on console at all, the settings are defaulted when playing on a console. The only settings you can adjust are the ones in game for GT7.

 

[KoupeKing]

Yeah I've tweeted at Polly-D and tried to get some feedback from somewhere or someone to no effect. I have a T300rs that was working fine before 1.31 with the control panel of the wheel itself set to

Overall force: 40%
Constant: 30%
Periodic: 35%
Spring: 0%
Damper: 0%

The game being given re-centering control but tried without it both times at 0%

And then several settings going all the way to 0% across the board and restarting the game on ps5, several times,

And on the game under FFB settings under control settings (in the only 2 places you can do anything about it unlike every other Sim on just about every platform I also race on psn with) that you mentioned, it's always been at 1 and 1 for Torque and Sensitivity since GT-Sport and that FFB Fiasco the first few months of it.

All that is to say it doesn't matter what I do with the PC settings for the wheel, the results are nil and the wheel has to be muscled around corners and grind into the track at every chance.

By comparison, ACC settings in the PC control settings for PSN (or PC) for the T300 are ridiculous and wouldn't matter in this game but if I connect my Fanatec CSL F1 Elite yadayada I have to turn torque and sensitivity up to 3 and 2 respectively to get any response close to what I like and can tweak on a granular level. On every other Sim.

Back to the T300 I tried across race cars and street cars with Polly-D's default tunes since you can't tune cars in online daily races and it didn't matter. My wheelbase is 7yrs old and my rig older. It hasn't been a problem until now with GT7. It isn't a problem anywhere else.

Control panel settings have no influence on the PS5. That's for PC only

 

[BadBoomerang]

Adjusting the settings on a PC will not change how the wheel performs on console at all, the settings are defaulted when playing on a console. The only settings you can adjust are the ones in game for GT7.

Control panel settings have no influence on the PS5. That's for PC only

Are you both sure about that?

My understanding is that with the PC control panel, the only setting that doesn't effect console is the wheel rotation which is set by GT7 depending on which car you are driving.

All other control panel settings are like the master control / volume in my experience, akin to having an input (game settings) and an amplifier (control panel).

If you set control panel to something ridiculously low like 5 overall strength, you will definitely feel the wheel being effected far less than running overall strength at 100.

Same goes for all the other control panel settings, other than wheel rotation.

 

[Abu_Azrael613]

Are you both sure about that?

My understanding is that with the PC control panel, the only setting that doesn't effect console is the wheel rotation which is set by GT7 depending on which car you are driving.

All other control panel settings are like the master control / volume in my experience, akin to having an input (game settings) and an amplifier (control panel).

If you set control panel to something ridiculously low like 5 overall strength, you will definitely feel the wheel being effected far less than running overall strength at 100.

Same goes for all the other control panel settings, other than wheel rotation.

It says it pretty clearly on the TM website that changing the PC settings has no effect on console. You feel a difference in Gran Turismo when you make changes to the control panel?

 

[RS60NR]

The FFB changes for the DD Pro were minor - they improved some of the detail and small forces. FFB was already pretty good if you have changed your settings from the early recommendations and after the update its better.

The big change was in the physics, so yes it feels different in some big ways - imo a big improvement

 

[HGHTCH]

IMO it feels much much better on my DD Pro. There is more details in the FFB and the steering response feel stronger and more immediate (well still being much weaker than day 1)

 

[sonnyboychris]

The FFB changes for the DD Pro were minor - they improved some of the detail and small forces. FFB was already pretty good if you have changed your settings from the early recommendations and after the update its better.

The big change was in the physics, so yes it feels different in some big ways - imo a big improvement

I guess per your description, I've been conflating the two. Assigning the difference in feeling to the FFB instead of the physics.

 

[DC5Remy]

I’m on a G923 with 9-1 settings and it feels great .

 

[KoupeKing]

Are you both sure about that?

My understanding is that with the PC control panel, the only setting that doesn't effect console is the wheel rotation which is set by GT7 depending on which car you are driving.

All other control panel settings are like the master control / volume in my experience, akin to having an input (game settings) and an amplifier (control panel).

If you set control panel to something ridiculously low like 5 overall strength, you will definitely feel the wheel being effected far less than running overall strength at 100.

Same goes for all the other control panel settings, other than wheel rotation.

Placebo. Set FFB to 0 in control panel and report back

 

[BadBoomerang]

It says it pretty clearly on the TM website that changing the PC settings has no effect on console. You feel a difference in Gran Turismo when you make changes to the control panel?

Placebo. Set FFB to 0 in control panel and report back

I definitely notice a massive difference.

If I set overall strength to 0, or another low value, the wheel is light as a feather, with almost no feedback at all.

If I set it to 60 (software default) the wheel comes alive.

If I set it to 100 it's much heavier, to the point the motor will eventually go into overheat mode and the FFB will drop right off until it cools or I take a break.

I'm fact because of the age of my wheel and the fan always being a bit dodgy, the length of time before it goes into overheat protection is directly related to how high I have overall strength set in control panel, along with the type of driving or track I'm on.

Spring & dampener I have set to 0, but if I put those back to default (100) then the wheel behaves totally differently.

Likewise if I play around with constant & periodic then the wheel will behave differently.

Boost on/off will also have a huge impact on strength etc.

The only setting that makes zero difference in my experience is rotation.

This in on a T500rs, however I was certain this applies to the T300 and the other TM wheels also.

I have spent many hours in the past fine tuning periodic and constant etc to test the effect and the wheel would feel different depending on what was set.

Likewise everything I've read from forums etc in the past has said it all applies other than rotation, with many people recommending 60/100/100/0/0 as what to use.

 

[jlbmel]

I’m on a G923 with 9-1 settings and it feels great .

What vibration setting are you using for the Trueforce?

 

[Kino321-X]

For me FFB for the G29 is massively improved with this update. My current settings are 3 / 1.

What is your controller steering sensitivity?

This just seems too light for me, at least with road cars on Comforts/Sports. Race cars on slicks seem ok to me even with this update, FFB is quite strong.