Hyundai Genesis Coupe: New Photos Surface

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JCE3000GT
1966 Mustang Fastback > 1966 Mustang Coupe

That is all.
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Nonsense. Now, the 68 Fastback, then you're talking.
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Yummy.
YSSMAN
Chevrolet I believe was the only major competitor at the time that wasn't using a dedicated "fastback" design at the time.
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Chevelle?
JCE3000GT
Offtopic, I'd rather have that Sentra than that Tiburon.
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Of course. Tiburons were suck back then.
 
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Nonsense. Now, the 68 Fastback, then you're talking.
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Of course. Tiburons were suck back then.
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Don't get me wrong, I strongly prefer the '68 over the '66--but the early 70's fastback Mach's were probably my favorite classic Mustangs (minus GT500KR).

And Tiburons were suck back then yes...but it at least looked ok on the outside. I figured it was a rather obvious statement about me taking the Nissan first and foremost. It was almost a joke afterthought.
 
Toronado
Chevelle?
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I suppose it could have been counted as such, but to me it just doesn't look as aerodynamically "purposeful" in terms of design by comparison to say the Torino/Cyclone or the Charger.

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But, I suppose it works...
 
YSSMAN
I suppose it could have been counted as such, but to me it just doesn't look as aerodynamically "purposeful" in terms of design by comparison to say the Torino/Cyclone or the Charger.

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But, I suppose it works...
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Now THAT is one fine looking automobile.
 
JCE3000GT
Offtopic, I'd rather have that Sentra than that Tiburon.
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+1, but then we already know we're Nisso-philes.

The current Tiburon is okay... but there's not much in driving it beyond what the current Mazda3 can offer... and then some... as the 3 is probably the much better car, all things considered.

I hope in the move to rear-wheel drive, Hyundai learns a bit about car-dynamics. About the only new Hyundai I've driven that seems to hit the right buttons completely is the Santa Fe... it says a lot about how your other cars drive when the best driving one is the truck.

(Sonata excepted... as that one's about due for replacement).
 
Well looks like there might be a V8 in the future...

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Hyundai apparently has a mole in its midst, and the insider has revealed that the "Tau" 4.6L V8 destined to power the all-new rear-wheel-drive Genesis luxury sedan will produce a stout 380 horsepower. This is according to a post on the HyundaiExhchange.com forums by forum member Delphi, who has gotten rumors right in the past. The power figure reportedly comes from the head of Hyundai's R&D, Hyun-Soon Lee, who revealed the information in a private speech to South Korean business execs.

Regardless of Delphi's track record with getting rumors right, this is still speculation and should be regarded as such. If true, however, color us impressed with Hyundai's new V8 and hope it also ends up powering the South Korean automaker's new rear-wheel-drive coupe.
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Sounds like adequate power to make it an impressive performer in the class. Heres the deal though; Can they sell the Tibby, with the V8, at the right price? Given that it sounds as though they're kinda chasing the Mustang with this, getting down to the $27K mark (well-equipped) may be hard to do...
 
I don't think it will be all that hard to do, I mean, I think Hyundai makes pretty reasonably priced cars.
 
Chevy toyed with a Camaro fastback in 67 for 69/70, but it never got out of the styling booth. Sure looked good though.
 
Joey D
I don't think it will be all that hard to do, I mean, I think Hyundai makes pretty reasonably priced cars.
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Certainly, but they do have to make a profit as well. Granted, they have done an excellent job mimicking Toyota by significantly undercutting the competition (see the initial history of Lexus), but given that they aren't that large of a company, they can only keep it up for so long.

Much of this depends on where they end up going with this coupe. More and more it seems that Hyundai wants to play games with entry-level and full-fledged luxury brands; Lexus, BMW, Acura, Cadillac, and the like. While the idea of a 380 BHP Mustang-fighter may sound like a great idea, Hyundai would have to decide if they truly want to fight the little guy, or go after the SC430 (and the like).

My guess is that Kia gets the sporty front-drive coupe, Hyundai does the mid-size RWD sports car. Throw a few punches at the GTO, maybe at the 3-series and the CLK while they're at it, and call it a day...
 
380bhp?! Holy ****. 380bhp mated with a 6spd tranmission should be seriously cool and good value. Hyundai needs a good "tuner" company name to stick on the higher performance versions of these new engines. A "Nismo", "SVT", or "Mugen" equivalent. Hyundai will likely tune the 4.6L V8 for 300bhp for a normal $25k model and the 380bhp would most likely run $30-32k. Which would still be impressive value in my opinion.
 
If they were really clever and wanted to destroy both Mustang sales and any sales the Camaro might have they would sell the Tibby at 25K with the 380 horse V8. Then sell the low power V8 at Mustang V6 levels. And I see that as more likely, to be honest.
 
I don't care if they sell it for $20K with 380 BHP, they can't out-design this:

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Call me extremely biased, but Chevrolet has that group by the throat, and won't let go. The only wild card comes from down the street...

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The one advantage Hyundai will have though is that it will have a 10 year warranty, so you can basically rag the hell out of the thing and in theory you should still have it covered.

Although I wonder if the "lifetime" warranty will be offered on the Challenger?
 
I'm almost positive they'd put the lifetime warranty on the Challenger, its a Dodge, they must! But even then, it isn't as though the warranty on the Chevy is that bad either... Its a five-year deal there, and given Lutz's current movement towards "bulletproof" everything, I'd suspect that the new Camaro would last longer than the Hyundai, despite the longer warranty. You really can't fault a small-block that they've been building since 1955...
 
Oh I'm not doubting that, the only thing I can see that will hurt the Camaro is that it's still going to be built by a bunch of UAW guys that don't care anymore. I just hope they don't hurt the car that will probably give GM a huge boost in the financial area.

I'll be kind of curious how the Hyundai fits in with all of this. Build quality wise and what not.
 
Probably better than whatever Toyota would bring to the table...

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Camaro quality shouldn't be too bad. The guys who are building the Impala, Grand Prix, and LaCrosse will be building the Chevy, and the two plants that make up the Oshwa facility (where the Camaro will be built, along with the new Impala and other Zeta vehicles) have been the two best-ranked vehicle plants in North America. Assuming GM spends the money for good materials, plant quality remains much the same, and the car follows the same path set forward by current GM vehicles, I see no reason why it won't easily surpass the Mustang as one of the highest-rated sports coupes by JDPower.
 
The "lifetime" warranty is a joke, as far as I understand it--it only covers some of the drivetrain components. The Hyundai has a much better more complete warranty.

And if Hyundai has the 380bhp version at the regular Mustang GT Deluxe prices that would just be insanely good value for your money. I'd take it over the Camaro, Mustang, Challenger, and pretty much anything else for $25~30k.
 
That looks like a warmed-over version of the current Tib, not a new one...

If it is the RWD one, That could hurt them.
 
They were saying that they think its going to be V6 only for a bit, and then we'll later see the V8 become an option. The thing is, if they can keep both weight and pricing down, it seems like a pretty decent car. Thing is, in a market where you can still get a nicely done Mustang GT for $27K, thats a hard bargain to beat.
 
Hmm, the stance looks a bit different to the current car. Maybe it's RWD... the Mustang beside it seems like a strange coincidence...

Other than the unfortunate hint of G6 Coupe and the odd kink behind the door, it looks alright. I'd be happy with just a V6 if that means a 300hp version of the 3.8L motor. A 2.0T would be nice; I wonder if it's too big to take rallying again, heh. I'd be skeptical about the weight; the current Tib's pretty heavy for what it is, and I'm assuming a bigger body with RWD and a bigger engine can't work in its favour.
 
OMG, Slipztrem! That was EXACTLY what I thought! G6 with weird window line, but altogether a nice looking car! How did you know!
Except I thought the Mustang was research or comparison tests or something...
 
I love it. Give it to me in black on black with a 6spd and we can call it a day.
 
-> Based on their 'marketing research' meeting in someones warehouse, I can tell its competitors:

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The old timer:
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^ Hmm, the agility of the RX-8; the grunt of the Mustang GT; the audio system from the Eclipse GT V6; the reliability of the Civic Si; and the warranty of the old folk. Sounds promising if you ask me, I'm looking forward at the LA Autoshow. :sly:
 
Meh, I think they've ignored the obvious comparison test partner this car would be compared to.

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I mean, really, high-powered midrange asian sports coupe? What are you gonna compare it to at any price point? The benchmark, of course.
 
That would be the 350z, correct?
 
^ Yes the 350Z, but one problem. It has two seats, while the others are 2+2 (aka. four seats). That spot supposed to be the 128i (although it hasn't come out yet). :ouch:

-> So much for benchmark. :indiff:
 
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