I Quit GT4, PD made it way to hard for the Average Racer.

[Thirdeye]

If you can press the X button, you can at least get a bronze on the Super License tests, they were ridiculously easy, and i'm not even that good at this game.

 

[stefmeister]

The harder the game the better. If they made the game really easy then everyone would fly though it & have it completed in no time at all. The game is hard because its more realistic than the others. If everyone was flying though the game it would have a really short life span but as its reletively difficult it should keep you playing for ages.

 

[Lethalchem]

But you can get bigtime A-Spec points if you can clear a Mission Hall race. You may have to do a little cheating to win, but that's if you're completely desperate.

You shouldn't have to cheat to win the Hall races. I've completed them all but the Ring. It can be done legitimately.

Nurburgring Nordschleife scares me. How so? I'm speedfreaking, then I see a quick corner come up, and DAMN! I'm in the wall. I have Le Mans experience in gaming, but the Nords is all new to me. And I'm sure to eventually master all 12 or 14 miles of it in the coming months.

I think this is a good example where a LOT of people are having trouble with these tests and missions. Learn where and when certain corners are coming up, and start braking earlier.

For you guys who are getting frustrated, I think you'd be doing yourself a disservice if you stopped playing. Step back and look at what you're doing for a moment. There's SOMETHING you're not doing right. Look for it. Is it braking too late? Wrong gear selection? Are you slowing down for corners where you could actually go through at full or part throttle? Don't just keep running the race over and over while doing the same thing you did before. If it didn't work the first time, chage a few things up and try it differently. There's probably just one or two little things you're driving wrong, which screws up your whole run. Look for it, it's there somewhere.

I'm willing to bet you guys are making the same mistake in ALL the tests/races/missions you attempt. It's probably a concept you're not grasping. It might be the concept of how to take a specific type of turn, or it might be the concept of brake early and power out of the corner smoothly. It might even be as simple as the concept of trying to straighten the wheels as early as possible when coming out of a corner (listen to the sounds of the tires and engine. When the tires are squealing, the engine is not revving very quickly, and is therefore slowing you down as you scrub off speed. If you straighten your tires earlier and swing wide, you will hear the skidding stop, the engine will rev more freely, and you will pick up speed faster) etc.

Regardless of what area you havn't realized is causing you the hangups, ONCE YOU FIGURE IT OUT YOU WILL SUDDENLY START BANGING OUT SUCCESS AFTER SUCCESS. It's like a lightbulb going off in yoru head. "Ohhhhh...THAT'S what I've been doing wrong!" Once you get that one concept down, you will find it applies to all the races, and you will no longer have such difficulties. I garuntee it. 👍

 

[XCNuse]

It's like a lightbulb going off in yoru head. "Ohhhhh...THAT'S what I've been doing wrong!" Once you get that one concept down, you will find it applies to all the races, and you will no longer have such difficulties. I garuntee it. 👍

figuring out the system and finding a way to beat it
i do that everywhere.. helps in school especially 👍

but ya i mean.. once you figure out how to do a certain turn or.. anything, you can learn it pretty easily, i mean.. i can sit and look at a track map and do fairly well first try.. once you figure it out, it really isnt hard at all

 

[Duke]

There's SOMETHING you're not doing right. Look for it. Is it braking too late?

That's about 90% probablility of being the problem. I never felt in control of the car until I started doubling my braking distances, and working my way down from there. My lap times dropped significantly, too. I'm still not that fast, but I'm still 20 gold / 12 silver / 0 bronze for the first two licenses.

 

[Lethalchem]

That's about 90% probablility of being the problem. I never felt in control of the car until I started doubling my braking distances, and working my way down from there. My lap times dropped significantly, too. I'm still not that fast, but I'm still 20 gold / 12 silver / 0 bronze for the first two licenses.

Exactly! Sometimes it's just one little thing you're missing. It may seem like a small thing, but once you catch on to it, you'd be amazed at how many seconds it actually shaves off. Congrats on your licenses thus far. 👍

 

[Max_DC]

I quit Gt4 because it is too easy, Ok one day I will go on, but the " I can enter every race with a 900 ps moster" - feature really destroys the fun.... 👎

 

[Lethalchem]

I quit Gt4 because it is too easy, Ok one day I will go on, but the " I can enter every race with a 900 ps moster" - feature really destroys the fun.... 👎

Did you try the Mission Hall? I can't imagine people thinking all those missions are "too easy". Sure, the first ones are, as are a few of the others, but the rest are fun and challenging.

 

[ferret-turbo]

I quit Gt4 because it is too easy, Ok one day I will go on, but the " I can enter every race with a 900 ps moster" - feature really destroys the fun.... 👎

although i find the game hard when I use cars similair to the AI cars it would have been great if there was a BHP limit or power/weight ratio limit on the various races, i actually stop racing now if the car I have is too fast so I can de-tune it or get a slower car, waste of 30 quid just bombing past everyone (although a little bit faster never hurts , but I suck 💡 )

 

[CrackHoor]

" I can enter every race with a 900 ps moster"

Just because you can doesn't mean you have to. Your complaint is hardly the game's fault and it's actually one of the things I like about the GT series - once I've got the basic skills, I can make the game as challenging as I want.

As for not enjoying GT4 unless you can get all golds and pass all the missions in the first couple weeks - that's completely ridiculous. The huge majority of people on here can't do that, eastley, the ones that do are just more likely to be posting about it. I suspect it will be a long long time before I do either of those (and I'm a grizzled veteran of the entire GT series), but why can't I enjoy the rest of the game for what it is? Hell, now that I've got a handful of cool cars in my garage and all the tracks available, I could play in Arcade mode for months before getting tired of it.

 

[Ax Battler]

I quit Gt4 because it is too easy, Ok one day I will go on, but the " I can enter every race with a 900 ps moster" - feature really destroys the fun.... 👎

You'll never get 100% like that theres a lot of manufacturer and restricted races that require you to learn to drive different types of cars.

I bought a PS2 just to play this so I'm going to get as much from the game as I can, going through my cars one by one trying to win all the possible races with each and doing licenses along the way.

The game is as much of a challenge as you want to make it, it's always been like that, you could cruise through with the Pikes Peak or the F1 cars in previous versions. There's always been short cuts to fast cash, I could do that rally course multiple times to afford one of the best cars then thrash everyone else but where's the fun and skill in that.

 

[///M-Power]

This game being alot harder has turned me off it. I can't do any of the Mission after Mission 10. I can't even get close to 8 of the Super Licences I have left.

Learning is part of the fun. If you are having such troubles you are doing something wrong, so figure out what that is and then do it better. You will start feeling a lot better once you start to get it right, and then the enthusiasm will carry over to other problem areas of your driving.

Besides, there is no princess to rescue, no dragons to slay, and no evil plot to foil. You are not required to complete a certain percentage of the game, and you can approach things however you want, even if that means just zipping around in a Miata in practice mode all day.

Do what you want with it. The main point is to have fun.

 

[Max_DC]

Did you try the Mission Hall? I can't imagine people thinking all those missions are "too easy". Sure, the first ones are, as are a few of the others, but the rest are fun and challenging.

Oh some of them are really hard, I have not beaten all of them... but I didn't try it very often.... Well one sentence is perhaps too short for what I wanted to say : Of course Gt4 can be hard : All licences in Gold, Missions, but the average race is too easy because I can enter with a fully tuned car in almost every race. No, I don't care about having a large number of Aspec points in a submenu list... I want a strict PS class system, a bit like in GT2 : For example a race with 200 hp max. FF japanese cars, or a 350 PS FR at least 1500 kg N2 tires cup etc etc... in every race and cup... I don't want to challenge myself, I want the game to do that, that's what games are about... challenge... and for beginners : a easy mode... voilá.... everybody is happy

 

[Deondre]

Challenging? Yes, but I wouldn't quit...not in 10 years! Sure some of the Driving Missions are kicking my butt, but that's no reason to just stop playing! And for the guy who said the game is too easy, tell him to try the final mission in Driving Mission (McCleran w/ sport tires) w/o getting frustrated. You'll have the fastest car on the track with the worst conditions and a 2 minute handicap.

 

[Max_DC]

You'll never get 100% like that theres a lot of manufacturer and restricted races that require you to learn to drive different types of cars.

I bought a PS2 just to play this so I'm going to get as much from the game as I can, going through my cars one by one trying to win all the possible races with each and doing licenses along the way.

The game is as much of a challenge as you want to make it, it's always been like that, you could cruise through with the Pikes Peak or the F1 cars in previous versions. There's always been short cuts to fast cash, I could do that rally course multiple times to afford one of the best cars then thrash everyone else but where's the fun and skill in that.

Well, the first 35% or so were fun, but then.... even GT3 wa more difficult : In GT4 I do let's say 6 missions in the beginning, I buy a Evo, tune it and enter the first race... that is boring... Then I enter a cup in prohall, win it, fully tune the car and the next 50 hours I can always have easy races with overpowered cars... that is boring... I've been playing dozens of racing games for the last years and while GT4 is the gameplay and carsize king, the game structure is poor in my opinion... GT 2 was a lot better in this field

 

[Swift]

Well, as far as this topic goes. This game is neither too hard or too easy. It depends on how you look at it. I mean, if you loaded up your GT3 data and bought a car that could own everthing. Yeah, it's going to be to easy. On the other hand, if you're just coming into the world of GT and you're not used to sim driving games, I can see how it could be quite difficult.

If you want to give up, fine. But it's your 50$, so you wouldn't give up too easily.

 

[Max_DC]

Well, as far as this topic goes. This game is neither too hard or too easy. It depends on how you look at it. I mean, if you loaded up your GT3 data and bought a car that could own everthing. Yeah, it's going to be to easy. On the other hand, if you're just coming into the world of GT and you're not used to sim driving games, I can see how it could be quite difficuly.

If you want to give up, fine. But it's your 50$, so you wouldn't give up too easily.

Well you got it ! And what would be a logical consequence for GT5 ?
strict PS classes and other restrictions for the pro-gamer, and a easy mode with the possibility to use a little more powerful cars...
Then the game is neither too easy nor too hard...

 

[Swift]

Well you got it ! And what would be a logical consequence for GT5 ?
strict PS classes and other restrictions for the pro-gamer, and a easy mode with the possibility to use a little more powerful cars...
Then the game is neither too easy nor too hard...

AS far as I know, that's the direction KY would like to take it. Something very high level, then something more "middle of the road"

 

[phonypoly]

I have'nt done any missions yet, but surely i agree, PD really screwed up on this game. I'm at 43% with 392 races and 8509 A-spec points and 3373 B-spec skill bla bla..
And by repeating races, in order to get cretit$, the Points per Win-Ratio %, becomes smaller

What is the point of the points?? The least PD could've done, was to include a list of the points per options, so that we'd know how many points will be reduced by adding a certain power up option, or wich car allows more points etc....??

Are there people with nothing better to do than to try 20 or more combinations in cars/options, just to get a few extra points??
And the whole points matter is so pointless, since most of the races that allow more points, are upsolutely, ridiculously, out of proportion from reality!

I can see why alot of kids are hyper and furious, it's because of games like this!

I'm very disappointed ..

i'm gonna return the game for a refund($60) and buy it back in a couple yrs, when it's ($15). I bought GT3, almost 2 yrs ago for $20 and it's worth it, but GT4 is not!!

to you PD.

 

[Lethalchem]

I have'nt done any missions yet,

Get back to us when you start missions past #10, and let us know how easy it is. 👍

i'm gonna return the game for a refund($60) and buy it back in a couple yrs, when it's ($15).

Why? You'll be just as poor a driver in a couple years as you are now. It won't get any easier by costing less.

I've already got more Aspec points than you, and I havn't done ANY races yet. Get back to us about it when you accomplish something. 💡

 

[Swift]

I have'nt done any missions yet, but surely i agree, PD really screwed up on this game. I'm at 43% with 392 races and 8509 A-spec points and 3373 B-spec skill bla bla..
And by repeating races, in order to get cretit$, the Points per Win-Ratio %, becomes smaller

What is the point of the points?? The least PD could've done, was to include a list of the points per options, so that we'd know how many points will be reduced by adding a certain power up option, or wich car allows more points etc....??

Are there people with nothing better to do than to try 20 or more combinations in cars/options, just to get a few extra points??
And the whole points matter is so pointless, since most of the races that allow more points, are upsolutely, ridiculously, out of proportion from reality!

I can see why alot of kids are hyper and furious, it's because of games like this!

I'm very disappointed ..

i'm gonna return the game for a refund($60) and buy it back in a couple yrs, when it's ($15). I bought GT3, almost 2 yrs ago for $20 and it's worth it, but GT4 is not!!

to you PD.

Honestly, that sounds like symantics to me. Sure, the GT mode as far as completing the game goes has some drawbacks. But I have fun driving in the game, so I'll look past those things. But if you're not having any fun, well then there's no point.

I'm actually quite surprised at the amount of people complaining about the difficulty level in GT4. It's really not that hard if you put a little effort into it. I only get to play about, 4 hours a week and I'm at about 20% done or so.

 

[Lethalchem]

I'm actually quite surprised at the amount of people complaining about the difficulty level in GT4. It's really not that hard if you put a little effort into it. I only get to play about, 4 hours a week and I'm at about 20% done or so.

I'm kind of surprised at the amount of people complaining about the game in general. Before I purchased the game, all the chatter online here had got me worked up into being disappointed before I had even tried it out. Once I started playig it though, I was pleasantly surprised to find it wasn't NEAR as bad as everyone had made it sound. It's a VERY fun game, and I've barely even scratched the surface of it.

 

[Max_DC]

AS far as I know, that's the direction KY would like to take it. Something very high level, then something more "middle of the road"

Hmm I hope so, ... where did you get that info ? interview or what ?

Get back to us when you start missions past #10, and let us know how easy it is. 👍

Why? You'll be just as poor a driver in a couple years as you are now. It won't get any easier by costing less.

I've already got more Aspec points than you, and I havn't done ANY races yet. Get back to us about it when you accomplish something. 💡

Hmm I think you are talking about something else... the game is hard at some points but not challenging... that is a difference... although I wouldn't sell the game, it is still great to do some races now and then, but I think there could have been more....

I'm kind of surprised at the amount of people complaining about the game in general. Before I purchased the game, all the chatter online here had got me worked up into being disappointed before I had even tried it out. Once I started playig it though, I was pleasantly surprised to find it wasn't NEAR as bad as everyone had made it sound. It's a VERY fun game, and I've barely even scratched the surface of it.

Well, pehaps THAT is the problem... the bad feelings came after 20 hours or so, perhaps even more, I don't know... There is apoint where I thought : O well ok I have every car I wanted to have, I'v etuned them, have raced them, oh only 35% done yet... hmm... I could do another 50 races with the cars I like ( mostly overpowered ) ... ah... well... no . And that happend because of the lack of challenge... GT2 never stopped being challenging....

 

[strik3out]

Could someone please tell me how the **** you do the final mission.

 

[Swift]

Hmm I hope so, ... where did you get that info ? interview or what ?

Yes, it was from an interview with KY not to long before the Japanese release of GT4.

 

[Lethalchem]

Well, pehaps THAT is the problem... the bad feelings came after 20 hours or so, perhaps even more, I don't know... There is apoint where I thought : O well ok I have every car I wanted to have, I'v etuned them, have raced them, oh only 35% done yet... hmm... I could do another 50 races with the cars I like ( mostly overpowered ) ... ah... well... no . And that happend because of the lack of challenge... GT2 never stopped being challenging....

I've played WELL over 20hrs. I've driven 412 game days, so it's not like I've not been playing the game, it's just that I havn't progressed my % yet (still at 5.x%). I'm purposefully enjoying every small facet of the game to it's fullest before I move on. Why rush through it?

I've golded all licenses but the last 3 of the S, and I've gotten all missions completed but the very last one. If the game stopped when I completed those last things, I'd STILL say it was worth it to me. It's been a blast.I've beaten rental games faster than it's taken me to get all golds. That's entertainment.

When I move on from there, I'm going to spend my time ranking the cars I've won (havn't even purchased any of the 18 I have) at the drag strip and some of the road courses while they're still stock. Then I might test them out after tuning them a bit, who knows. Then I'll go and make some nice pictures of them in photomode, and on and on.

I'll then move on to finding the best car to drive in the beginner races that will give me the most A-spec points...and then go back and rank any new cars against my old garage, etc etc etc. This game is going to hold hours and hours and hours of racing enjoyment for me. 👍

 

[Swift]

I've played WELL over 20hrs. I've driven 412 game days, so it's not like I've not been playing the game, it's just that I havn't progressed my % yet (still at 5.x%). I'm purposefully enjoying every small facet of the game to it's fullest before I move on. Why rush through it?

I've golded all licenses but the last 3 of the S, and I've gotten all missions completed but the very last one. If the game stopped when I completed those last things, I'd STILL say it was worth it to me. It's been a blast.I've beaten rental games faster than it's taken me to get all golds. That's entertainment.

When I move on from there, I'm going to spend my time ranking the cars I've won (havn't even purchased any of the 18 I have) at the drag strip and some of the road courses while they're still stock. Then I might test them out after tuning them a bit, who knows. Then I'll go and make some nice pictures of them in photomode, and on and on.

I'll then move on to finding the best car to drive in the beginner races that will give me the most A-spec points...and then go back and rank any new cars against my old garage, etc etc etc. This game is going to hold hours and hours and hours of racing enjoyment for me. 👍

it's clear that this man really enjoys his GT4 experience. Good stuff.

 

[Stian]

Personally I do not mind the difficulty, as I enjoy a challange. Another game I play alot is Richard Burns Rally. You do NOT want to try that if you find GT4 too hard ;-)

 

[R-Spec]

some one needs to learn how to drive....
if u can drive in real life you should be fine w/ gt4, w/ the wheel it's all good.

****, even lil kids can get good at this game...

 

[Lethalchem]

it's clear that this man really enjoys his GT4 experience. Good stuff.

Is that a subtle way of calling me anal?