Originally posted by pergatory
We would let it die if you would let us call it FF sliding, what's your point? This is a debate, there are two sides, that's the whole idea. I wanted to end this debate because it's obvious to me that those involved have already made up their minds, but it kept going so here we are debating, you have no right to complain.
Universal definition? Hahahah, you're kidding right? How can it be drifting by universal definition if it doesn't fit a single one of the definitions me or the other RWD guys have provided? Universal doesn't mean three people said so. You keep saying you proved us wrong but where is this proof? You've avoided every single one of our arguments and simply keep saying the same thing over and over. Every time, I get more impatient, and try to state it in a different way, a more aggressive way, hoping to encourage you into an intelligent debate. All you do, is keep saying the same thing over and over. "Yes it is drifting because I say so! Stop saying it's not drifting because I already said it was!" If you're going to argue it, you have to at least address our points.
u must be broken.
IN GT3, you are capable of drifting, and controlling a drift in a FWD vehicle no matter what.
ahhh, i said it before, and READ THIS CLOSELY, AND THINK!!
***** whatever you need to do to keep the car in the state of the defined drift counts, as long as it is only kept by what is built with the car. so ebrake or throttle, they are just different forms of keeping the car in the state of the defined drift*****
THAT counts. in GT3 it is completely possible to hold a FWD car in a drift using its built-in mechanisms.
you guys still seem to think that the only way it can be called drifting is if the rear wheels are pushing the car sideways yet maybe take CLOSE READ AT THIS...
***a rear wheel drive car uses the pushing power of the rear wheels to maintain a drift angle, thus keeping the car moving and drifting at the same time. YET this car is also USING ONLY THE COMPONENTS ON THE CAR ITSELF to maintain that drift. IT IS USING ITS REAR WHEEL POWER TO FORCE IT SIDEWAYS THROUGH A CORNER. and you call this drifting.
but in the same rate, a front wheel drive car is using its e-brake in the same manner as a rear wheel drive car is using its rear wheel power.
and is using the front wheels to pull it through.
the e-brake is a built in mechanism(just like a differential is in a rwd) and is part of the car itself!!!
so what do they have in common you ask???
BOTH CARS ARE USING WHATEVER MEANS THEY HAVE BUILT ONTO THEM TO KEEP THE CAR IN A DRIFTING STATE!!!
it does not matter how you drift, as long as you provide the action.
thusly a rear wheel drive car can "move sideways" (drift) through apricot hill half circle....
a front wheel drive car can DO THE EXACT SAME THING!!
IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW!!
IT IS USING WHAT IT HAS TO HOLD A DRIFT THE SAME WAY AS A REAR WHEEL DRIVE USES WHAT IT HAS TO DRIFT.
i really hope thats clear enough, cuz if its not, then i fear that you people dont have a sense of logic and basic understanding of the principle of this whole topic.
[EDIT] please refer to this video to see the FF car in the action of a drift.
its doing exactly what a rwd car would do, just in a different way
P.S. it has been compressed so ignore the first few responses in reference to the size of the vid.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/show...&perpage=20&highlight=f.zamataki&pagenumber=1
