Introducing the GTPlanet League: Team Racing in Gran Turismo Sport

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  1. davidt33

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    Watched rounds 1 and 2 this morning. Fantastic racing.
    Waiting for Round 3 about to start in about 1 hour: Team Redline vs Team Williams.
    Thank you GTPlanet for hosting and streaming the Tournament/League. Liking the formula.
     
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    It's not really him. It's a joke.
     
  3. Adam41

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    Williams' first race in just under an hour. :D
     
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    Start your engines :D

     
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    LZR :cheers:
     
  6. Jordan

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    Thanks to all of you who tuned in; don't forget to join us next week.

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    Congratulations to Redline and Lazarus!
     
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    Yeah it was great to watch. Will definitely be tuning in next week. Good job with the live streaming and commentary. Looked really professional.
     
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    I really enjoy watching these, keep up the good work!

    Just curious though, why no Team Logitech to have a rivalry with Team Thrustmaster? :)
     
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  9. sturk0167

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    What the hell???
    At 7:18 in the video, it shows Team Lazarus. The graphic says the guy on the right is 8 years old, and has been playing for 3 weeks!!! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
    That's what I'd call a child prodigy. :eek:
     
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    That 8 year old boy was racing good too.
     
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    Enjoying the races so far, great stuff!
     
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  12. Snaeper

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    Once this initial series has concluded, I'd definitely vote to see different cars on track.

    Could be that four cars are picked and the teams assign them to the drivers they choose. Could be random assignments, or could be that the teams are assigned 2-3 cars and then can pick the last 1-2 from a pool to play with potential strategy. Would be a lot of fun with Group 1 where the teams have to work out strategy with a Group C, LMP and VGT cars and the differences those bring.

    Watching both teams use the same car is a bit of a bore, in my opinion, though. The announcers did an admirable job but c'mon guys, it was a procession both races of the first round barring a few incidents at the end of the second race. I think having differing cars will not only make the strategy more interesting, but also help identify the different drivers.

    Alternatively, turn tire degradation on and put each of the four cars on different compounds of tires. (RSS/RS/RM/RH)

    Even combining both would be interesting to help shake things up as the rabbits tires wear off in succession and the harder compounds start overlapping.

    Edot: I just watched the first Mixed World Relay Championship and seeing Poland try a different order was one of the more exciting parts of that race, so thatd where my mentality is at with these suggestions.

    That's not Calster, just a gag.
     
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    Great races today! Wasn't proud of my qualifying time for the first race, but did what I needed to do the best I could in the races at least. I thought about trying to slow down in the second race to give @TRL LIGHTNING a big enough advantage to negate his penalty, but decided that it would be too difficult given how wide the track is and how long the straights are. I felt like it was a lot easier to defend my position by taking advantage of Mikail's draft instead, which worked out in the end. :D
     
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    I was thinking why didn't you slow down the pack for TRL LIGHTING, great race guy's.
    Looking forward to next week.
     
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    This league could be a model for team based race in GTSport which is the major staple of the major esports leagues (Example: ESL).

    Who knew that TRL team someday would be worth million of dollars.
     
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    Hey guys, Andrew from the commentary team here. Just thought I'd pop in and say thanks for all the support and lovely comments. If there's any further constructive feedback, extra facts that you'd be interested to let the viewers know for future rounds etc, do let me know.

    I'll echo the comments of hopefully future seasons having more teams and more individuals to compete with. GTPES is still one of the best things I've commentated on even though it was just when I'd started out. Looking forward to being back on the air Week 5. Unfortunately can't make it next week as I've got a prior commentating commitment that night.
     
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    Hello guys, just opened my profile here on GTPlanet too!

    Wanna thank the organizers for inviting us to this high level tournament, the format is working great and i missed so much this old style team battles! Congrats to Redline for taking the victory, absurdly by 1pt, crazy stuff :eek:
    And also to all the competitors who put their max to make these races even more exciting

    Catch you in the next events :cheers::gtplanet:
     
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    Whatever happened to TRL_Immortal (aka IMMORTAL_PILOT)?? Back in the GT5 and GT6 days that dude almost always topped the leaderboards and was pretty much unbeatable. Used to race in a league with him and never saw him lose once and he'd lap us all at least once :lol:

    I know he was apart of Team Redline but haven't seen him on PS4 or GT Sport at all really. Hope his real racing career is doing well and that's why he's not been online.
     
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    He's taking an extended break from sim racing. I don't know when he'll return to Gran Turismo.
     
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    Nevermind
     
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    I just had a quick watch through the last races and saw that some cars had the same number on them and some just had a "0" next to their name in the small number field. Maybe the people who create the liveries should be more careful about setting that up and giving every driver a different number. Other than that everything looked pretty good :tup:
     
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    The GT Sport livery issue is that either each driver creates their own (which takes a lot of time), or one person does and shares it but nobody else can modify it (which includes door numbers).

    The solution would be for a team livery creator to create individual cars for each team member.
     
  24. Nuschel01

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    I think that already happened here since the cars all looked the same to me it only happen that two didn't have the number set up for the nametag above the car and there were too few numbers created.
     
  25. Jomas

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    For a last minute replacement, I have to say that I've enjoyed a lot the races on Bathurst. The Pole Position as the Win in Race 1 were clearly a big surprise and I think no one expected that! The second race was more difficult but it was intense to say the least.

    Overall, I've enjoyed this format more than the first one on Kyoto, and I'm glad I've had the chance to make those races.
     
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    Just watched the first three videos over the last day or so, and really enjoyed them, well done to all. :tup: :cheers: I don't know how I missed the first two weeks. :boggled: :confused:

    Nothing is perfect though, and some thoughts, positive and negative, which may be useful or not. Some of these apply to the PD streams too.

    It is nice to see the images of the drivers at the beginning to put a faces to the names before the races, which can't be done with the videos and interviews of the live PD streams because drivers are where they live. However, flipping between the driver's real and PSN names can be confusing. :boggled: Because the PSN names are used on screen, I would say go with them, you could put their real names next to their PSN names for the results page, you could even put the picture there again too. A lot of people who frequent here, or the PD live streams may know that TRL_Lightning is Mik Hizal, but some may not and could be confused. And he's probably the most famous one. ;) :lol:

    When the results are shown there is a logo for the team, and the teams name below drivers name, either could be changes to show different information, their real names, or their pictures.

    Would it be a good idea to have two different tracks to race on, rather than replay the same track with a reversed grid? I've seen some live streamers do this quite quickly.

    Though the production was done very well, there were a few instances in the first two streams where Chris McCarthy's sound got very low quality, and was almost inaudible. Get the man higher bandwidth, or cut to the other commentator whilst the problem hopefully fixes itself. ;)

    Although the gaps between races has been very quick and rapid, blank or static screens are not good. Have something's ready to fill the gaps. All the animations and information screens are very good and well designed, and adds a bit of quality. :tup:

    Speaking of quality, the commentators in dingy, though I'm sure lovely rooms, doesn't look to good imho. Added to that the different light levels and colours of light too doesn't look the best. I'm not sure how this could easily and cheaply be fixed.

    The car for each team members are identical, and nicely designed, but could there not be subtle changes for each member's car to to differentiate them. Different colour wing mirrors, wings and/or splitters. Whoever does the designs needs only to create four slightly different designs. Not a lot of extra work. ;)

    Make it clear that the game is handing out penalties if that is the case rather than talking about 'stewards'. If it is the game doing it, then it is the same for everyone, so 'fair'. Btw, I think .500 sec penalties are for cutting track limits from what I have seen (but could be wrong I admit), and larger penalties are for incidents with other drivers.

    The live points, though pretty good, could be updated quicker at some points, and maybe have another column for the additional fastest lap point so it is more obvious that it is counting, and who for. I know that could change on the last lap, but someone is fastest throughout the race. ;)

    It could also be possible to overlay the points next to the divers names so people may be able to work out the points for themselves, but understand that unless done subtly, could look quite bad, and cause more confusion. It would need to be switched off when the race finishes like the live points overlay.

    Just some thoughts. Some may agree or not, but just some ideas after seeing all three stream in pretty rapid succession. Some of that can be applied to the PD live streams too. ;)
     
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  27. Jordan

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    Thanks @Snaeper and @redhed17 for all of your feedback.

    @redhed17, I am aware of and agree with you on many of those issues with the broadcasts. This is my first time producing live streams at this level and I have a long list of things I would like to improve. Unfortunately, it can't be perfect out of the gate, but we are doing the best we can and aim to make steady improvements based upon all that we learn each week.
     
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  28. Snaeper

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    Having done video production before, I know the complexities. I think the broadcast part of the program was well done for a first running! I think @redhed17 's criticisms are valid but I think it speaks volumes that most of them were fairly minor details and not wholesale shunning of the show itself.

    I will agree that the backgrounds for the announcers were glaring, though. And I think the two need to have a chat and work out who is the color commentator and who is the technical commentator. I'd also like to hear more brand activation from them in regards to sponsors of the team's cars. NASCAR, love it or hate it, does a good job referring to a driver's car by their sponsor, "That M&M's Toyota!" and if I was a team owner, I'd be kicking the door down demanding that so I can sell sponsorship and make my esport team sustainable. Not once did I hear a mention of Fanatec on TRL's Aston's.

    I am also in agreement about the names. I know these drivers will have a brand and want to sell that brand based on their real life name and not their PSN handle, but when we're watching the broadcast and see the handle, it gets overwhelming trying to work out who's who. I was only able to follow a few drivers more by their national flag and was lost on who's who for the rest.

    Lastly, I think time of day for all races should be clear and sunny. I know Mount Panorama looks beautiful at sunset, but the contrast makes it difficult to see the cars at some angles. The teams have sponsors and those sponsors should be asking "Why, when you can control the conditions, are you not choosing the most ideal for my brand to be seen on these cars?"

    I also think the numbers should be a bit larger. Consider viewership coming from mobile devices. A "Normal" sized number becomes even tinier when watching on a cellphone. I'm not suggesting they be NASCAR sized, but a little bigger than normal would certainly help, especially if the teams don't want to do drastically different accent colors (although they still should). A standardized font or fonts that are approved for use might also help this, as the Williams cars were an example of a number font that was difficult to discern while in motion.

    I do hate being a critic, Jordan, but I love what you've done and I want to see it succeed and grow far larger than even you might be imagining it.
     
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    My two cents (if I read this correctly)

    This is a workaround for PD not implementing a feature that there is clearly an appetite for.

    There should be a teams championship with teams you create in game (like gangs you create in GTA Online) instead of having fan sites create some makeshift one with people who literally change their PSN ID to identify themselves as part of a league. I think it could work in sport mode if implemented well. But personally I dont care much for competitions I'm not eligible to compete in.
     
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  30. redhed17

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    Hi Jordan, thanks for replying. :) Just to make it clear, you and all involved, did a great job. :tup: That it is the first time(s) doing it makes it all the more impressive. :)

    I posted what I did in the hopes, if people felt the same way about the points, I made, that improvements to the negatives could be made. And I wasn't all negative. ;) I'd just watched the three streams virtually back to back, so a lot of things were in my head. Some of the negatives I posted also apply to the official PD streams btw, and they have a lot more money/staff for the technicalities, and a lot more experience, yet they still make mistakes. So I didn't, and never will, expect perfection from anyone. ;)

    Things will change, as the format of the racing did after the first stream, and it will evolve. Hopefully for the better. ;) :lol: But as you said, you were aware of some of the things I posted yourself, but I just wanted to make suggestions on how I think things could be improved in the future. You may not agree with all of my points, but at least we are able to discus things here. I wouldn't even bother trying to give PD my opinion on their streams as they don't seem to be a company that likes to listen to their customers, new survey aside ;) and there is no easy way to do that anyway.

    I look forward to the next stream. :)