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Bwahahahaha!!!!!! That's bada**! It would be really interesting if the made the panel with the level of detail as FSX :p:p:p:p
I'd put the cloud ceilings so that only the upper half in the corkscrew at laguna seca is in a cloud layer so once you pop out of the corkscrew... You can see! :lol::trouble:
 
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I'd put the cloud ceilings so that only the upper half in the corkscrew at laguna seca is in a cloud layer so once you pop out of the corkscrew... You can see! :lol::trouble:

Now that's just plain old "MEAN" 👍
 
Bwahahahaha!!!!!! That's bada**! It would be really interesting if the made the panel with the level of detail as FSX :p:p:p:p
I'd put the cloud ceilings so that only the upper half in the corkscrew at laguna seca is in a cloud layer so once you pop out of the corkscrew... You can see! :lol::trouble:

I'd like to see video of that 👍
 
That drop-down menu where it says "sunny" is the one I care about. I've raced through thick fog before, and I've raced in the night time (we were running late) with no headlights/taillights. Visibility is just something you have to deal with... Rain requires an entirely different approach.
 
Personally I don't like to race in the rain. My eyes aren't what they use to be. :)
 
The reason I'm not too fussed about rain is because there are enough loose units out there that can only just control their car in the dry !
 
:lol: Sorta lame reason, you'll be way faster or you'll be way slower. The rain changes the talent pool.
Oh ya, wait to you get to be 53, will see how good your eyes are.


The reason I'm not too fussed about rain is because there are enough loose units out there that can only just control their car in the dry !

indeed, it will be a crash fest.
 
Faster that the "fast guys" is what he means, he's right the talent pool is definitely all switched up, because some people can only do one thing well. In legends on the ovals we would put our uncut tires on (they're often camber cut right through the treads) and over inflate them to open the treads, but I've only done it once but I left the original setup in because I didn't have uncut trires
 
This week you can experience the closest thing to karts iRacing has to offer right now, as the SRF is racing at the Infield Charlote course:



Don't think I'll race it though, instead I might try my luck with the Star Mazda at Chalotte Oval.
 
iRacing not at E3 this year though they went in 2011 and maybe 2012.
 
Never heard of anyone being faster in the rain compared to the dry :)

I'm hoping to get some races in the rain at some point this season; driving style matters more than tuning setup in the wet, right? Because I can't, for the life of me, figure out tuning in either iRacing nor karting. The less grip we all have, the more hopes I have of being able to use pure driving talent to overcome the lack of grip. Basically, I'm hoping that everyone gets their setups just as wrong as my own... :sly:

Oh ya, wait to you get to be 53, will see how good your eyes are.

Indeed, we will. Of course, given how much metal my eyes eat, every day, I think that day will come sooner than 32 years from now.

The reason I'm not too fussed about rain is because there are enough loose units out there that can only just control their car in the dry !

Which series do you race? KIA is full of people who can control their cars.
 
Not iRacing related, but as you guys know I went to Skip Barber for the 3 Day MX-5 Racing school. I got back from Skip Barber last night, it was such a blast. I was approved for an SCCA license and I'll be going back in August for an advanced 2 day racing school again in the MX-5 for more experience and my instructors feel I have some "untapped potential".It was such a blast. My plan is to try and run one "summer series" race before the end of October when the season ends, at either Lime Rock or Mid-Ohio again in an MX-5 Cup. I'm looking into buying my own Miata/MX-5 track car in the coming months so I can get some more track time and experience prior to going back in August. This was my first time in a race car and my first time on a race track, also only my 3rd week of knowing how to drive a manual transmission, so my shifting is a bit off still and I'm working on my heel and toe.. Here's a video of my first of two open lapping sessions on the last day, I can find a lot of time around here with a bit more practice, a lot of my time was lost in inconsistent shifting. I'll upload video of my 2nd session and start/restart practice later on.

 
Yes, your shifting early on was a bit erratic. After you came out of pit row you seemed a lot more confident. All in all Mac you did very well and I am so jealous. :) Kudos Mac, what a great opportunity this is for you.

On a side note, it's too bad the wind was so loud on the recording.
 
Not iRacing related, but as you guys know I went to Skip Barber for the 3 Day MX-5 Racing school. I got back from Skip Barber last night, it was such a blast. I was approved for an SCCA license and I'll be going back in August for an advanced 2 day racing school again in the MX-5 for more experience and my instructors feel I have some "untapped potential".It was such a blast. My plan is to try and run one "summer series" race before the end of October when the season ends, at either Lime Rock or Mid-Ohio again in an MX-5 Cup. I'm looking into buying my own Miata/MX-5 track car in the coming months so I can get some more track time and experience prior to going back in August. This was my first time in a race car and my first time on a race track, also only my 3rd week of knowing how to drive a manual transmission, so my shifting is a bit off still and I'm working on my heel and toe.. Here's a video of my first of two open lapping sessions on the last day, I can find a lot of time around here with a bit more practice, a lot of my time was lost in inconsistent shifting. I'll upload video of my 2nd session and start/restart practice later on.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiFmf758WtI">YouTube Link</a>

Awesome! Good luck Mac:)
 
Mac, were your lap times faster in iRacing or in real life? :lol:


Bam, I just made it relevant, discuss it further! :D

I don't think that exact layout is available in iRacing. Mac looked to be turning into a chicane before turn 5, while the iRacing layout has a chicane after. I guess they changed it with the last resurface.

Pretty cool though, Mac. That was some nice driving. :)
 
I'm hoping to get some races in the rain at some point this season; driving style matters more than tuning setup in the wet, right? Because I can't, for the life of me, figure out tuning in either iRacing nor karting. The less grip we all have, the more hopes I have of being able to use pure driving talent to overcome the lack of grip. Basically, I'm hoping that everyone gets their setups just as wrong as my own... :sly:

Actually, the rain is a lot more down to the setup than a lot of people think. Once you get to the top drivers in F1 (Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel, Raikkonen), that level, Rain or Dry they are all pretty much the same speed. Depending on how much rain is coming down and how many puddles there are ect, will make a huge difference on how a engineer and driver want to setup the car, and will make a huge difference in how fast the car can go in those conditions.

Here's a good example. In Karting we run a Pre Final and a Final. Your driving won't really change all that much within those two races. We had very similar heavy rain conditions in both races. My father and I didn't have enough time to switch to a full rain setup and had to go with a intermediate setup for the Prefinal. I really struggled the whole race and fell from 2nd on the grid to 14th. Final comes around with the same conditions, only thing that changed was that we fitted a full rain setup to the car, I win the race from 14th and ran 2 seconds a lap faster lap times, than in the pre final, where other drivers were actually slightly slower due to tyre wear.
 
I disagree rain slow down everyone watching the qualifying from Montrial right now the early session the track was drying out and they were running 1:22.xxx lap times now the rain is starting up again (not real hard rain) and they are down to 1:29.xxx lap times. Rain is the great equalizer.
 
I disagree rain slow down everyone watching the qualifying from Montrial right now the early session the track was drying out and they were running 1:22.xxx lap times now the rain is starting up again (not real hard rain) and they are down to 1:29.xxx lap times. Rain is the great equalizer.

I don't think you got what I was trying to say.
 
I disagree rain slow down everyone watching the qualifying from Montrial right now the early session the track was drying out and they were running 1:22.xxx lap times now the rain is starting up again (not real hard rain) and they are down to 1:29.xxx lap times. Rain is the great equalizer.

But, you're comparing a dry track to a wet track. 💡



Shinya's right, in all honesty, that a lot of driving in the wet does indeed come down to setup, but, not only. There are some drivers who can be smoother in the wet, whose car's aren't set up well in the dry.


Using my own example; I don't have camber on my kart (no part to allow it) so I use a lot of concrete curbing to tip the kart, putting all of the weight on the outside tire. For other drivers, this would be counter-productive, but it works for me. However, in the rain, there's not as much ability to shift weight, and the tires don't roll over/flex at all, and the suspension doesn't go through nearly the same G-forces. So, this allows me to run my tires flat, with next-to-zero camber.


Oh, and my trail-braking technique is a bit lacking, so in the rain, I am not as bad in braking; you rarely brake in the wet.
 
Rain would be really cool in iRacing, but I just have the feeling it would be a huge crash fest. I've only been on the track in the rain once but it was surprising how easy I had to take it and the finesse required. Granted, I wasn't on racing wets like the iRacing cars maybe would be so they might have a fair bit more grip.
And Mac, awesome stuff keep us updated
 
Rain would be really cool in iRacing, but I just have the feeling it would be a huge crash fest. I've only been on the track in the rain once but it was surprising how easy I had to take it and the finesse required. Granted, I wasn't on racing wets like the iRacing cars maybe would be so they might have a fair bit more grip.
And Mac, awesome stuff keep us updated

I've driven karts on dry slicks... Go try it on GT5. It actually is that hard.


Honestly, I think people would learn to slow down really quickly in the rain. Safety Rating would be a big player. Damage would be the other.
 
Yes, your shifting early on was a bit erratic. After you came out of pit row you seemed a lot more confident. All in all Mac you did very well and I am so jealous. :) Kudos Mac, what a great opportunity this is for you.

On a side note, it's too bad the wind was so loud on the recording.

Thank you sir, I'm still working on my shifting so don't worry :lol: I'm looking into a Go Pro, that wasn't my camera they recorded with..

Mac, were your lap times faster in iRacing or in real life? :lol:


Bam, I just made it relevant, discuss it further! :D

iRacing obviously no fear of crashing, getting hurt, or paying for damages, but like Nick pointed out the track isn't quite the same, the chicane is different. My best from what I saw was 1:10.6, Pros can do 1:05s so I figure with some more track time and better shifting, especially with the heel/toe I can knock a few seconds off. It's pretty cool though how much the video shows how much time I lost and where I'm good, apparently I had the best line and was the fastest through turns 2 and 3 of the entire class, but that didn't make up for my mediocre shifting elsewhere, it'll hopefully come with time. It's driving me crazy though as I know I can improve so much.


I don't want to spam up the iRacing forum, but it seems most of you don't mind and are enjoying my posts do I guess I'll keep doing it for now :p

Anyways, here is the 2nd and final open lapping session, I had more fun in this one, I felt like I was more consistent despite the tires being pretty much done for and the track being hot and slippery. I should point out we were only allowed to pass on the straights so a few of my laps are a bit slow when I get stuck in behind some traffic. I loved the end when one of my instructors comes up and says "The cool down lap isn't just for you it's for the car too you knuckle head!" and taps me on the helmet and we all have a good laugh. I learned so much over the 3 days though, it was again another awesome experience.



and the start/restart practice. I don't know what everyone was thinking for the final one, we were all out of order and the start was never even given the green, yet everyone except me went anyways, I guess it had been a long 3 days..

 
Thank you sir, I'm still working on my shifting so don't worry :lol: I'm looking into a Go Pro, that wasn't my camera they recorded with..



iRacing obviously no fear of crashing, getting hurt, or paying for damages, but like Nick pointed out the track isn't quite the same, the chicane is different. My best from what I saw was 1:10.6, Pros can do 1:05s so I figure with some more track time and better shifting, especially with the heel/toe I can knock a few seconds off. It's pretty cool though how much the video shows how much time I lost and where I'm good, apparently I had the best line and was the fastest through turns 2 and 3 of the entire class, but that didn't make up for my mediocre shifting elsewhere, it'll hopefully come with time. It's driving me crazy though as I know I can improve so much.


I don't want to spam up the iRacing forum, but it seems most of you don't mind and are enjoying my posts do I guess I'll keep doing it for now :p

Anyways, here is the 2nd and final open lapping session, I had more fun in this one, I felt like I was more consistent despite the tires being pretty much done for and the track being hot and slippery. I should point out we were only allowed to pass on the straights so a few of my laps are a bit slow when I get stuck in behind some traffic. I loved the end when one of my instructors comes up and says "The cool down lap isn't just for you it's for the car too you knuckle head!" and taps me on the helmet and we all have a good laugh. I learned so much over the 3 days though, it was again another awesome experience.

Knuckle head!

As for the GoPro, honestly, just get the Hero 2, and (perhaps) an external microphone. My Hero 2 is perfect for everything I've ever used it for.

and the start/restart practice. I don't know what everyone was thinking for the final one, we were all out of order and the start was never even given the green, yet everyone except me went anyways, I guess it had been a long 3 days..

Do you even know much about karting? Most of the guys there, like me, have experience in karting; pushing the kart in front is all but mandatory on the first lap. Think, bump drafting, taken to the extreme of trying to push the kart in front of you out of the way. The best way to do it? Accelerate long before seeing the green flag.
 
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