There's one thing I really don't get with all the complaints. According to the opinions seen here the car selection sucks, the track selection sucks, the physics engine sucks, the graphics engine sucks, the sound engine sucks, the menu system sucks, the game being too short sucks, the game being too long sucks, the game being too easy sucks, the game being too hard sucks, A-Spec sucks, B-Spec sucks, grinding sucks, I'm sure there's something I missed that sucks too. Oh yeah, the cardboard trees and spectators. Still must be something left though.
Why on earth are you people still playing the freaking game if it's that hopeless?
And here goes another person who fails to understand that one can be disappointed by a product but still deem it worth to spend one's time with.
There's one thing I really don't get with all the complaints. According to the opinions seen here the car selection sucks, the track selection sucks, the physics engine sucks, the graphics engine sucks, the sound engine sucks, the menu system sucks, the game being too short sucks, the game being too long sucks, the game being too easy sucks, the game being too hard sucks, A-Spec sucks, B-Spec sucks, grinding sucks, I'm sure there's something I missed that sucks too. Oh yeah, the cardboard trees and spectators. Still must be something left though.
Why on earth are you people still playing the freaking game if it's that hopeless?
If you were in a restaurant and ordered a meal that turned out to be half as horrible as you make GT5 sound you wouldn't even look in the direction of that restaurant ever again and finishing the meal would be totally out of question. Yet you play some more GT5 day after day knowing exactly how horrible of an experience it it and then come here to rant about it. Something doesn't match here.
There's one thing I really don't get with all the complaints. According to the opinions seen here the car selection sucks, the track selection sucks, the physics engine sucks, the graphics engine sucks, the sound engine sucks, the menu system sucks, the game being too short sucks, the game being too long sucks, the game being too easy sucks, the game being too hard sucks, A-Spec sucks, B-Spec sucks, grinding sucks, I'm sure there's something I missed that sucks too. Oh yeah, the cardboard trees and spectators. Still must be something left though.
Why on earth are you people still playing the freaking game if it's that hopeless?
If you were in a restaurant and ordered a meal that turned out to be half as horrible as you make GT5 sound you wouldn't even look in the direction of that restaurant ever again and finishing the meal would be totally out of question. Yet you play some more GT5 day after day knowing exactly how horrible of an experience it it and then come here to rant about it. Something doesn't match here.
If you were in a restaurant and ordered a meal that turned out to be half as horrible as you make GT5 sound you wouldn't even look in the direction of that restaurant ever again and finishing the meal would be totally out of question. Yet you play some more GT5 day after day knowing exactly how horrible of an experience it it and then come here to rant about it. Something doesn't match here.
Problem is that you lump together all complaints here. I didn't see anyone yet actually disliking every single part of this game. I'm sure there are a few, but those might be the ones who actually have stopped playing. The majority of people however only criticise parts of the game, which in turn means that there will also be parts they enjoy to an extent, and seemingly enough to keep playing.There's one thing I really don't get with all the complaints. According to the opinions seen here the car selection sucks, the track selection sucks, the physics engine sucks, the graphics engine sucks, the sound engine sucks, the menu system sucks, the game being too short sucks, the game being too long sucks, the game being too easy sucks, the game being too hard sucks, A-Spec sucks, B-Spec sucks, grinding sucks, I'm sure there's something I missed that sucks too. Oh yeah, the cardboard trees and spectators. Still must be something left though.
Next problem: people get other people wrong. This is the Internet. When someone posts something, you don't see his gesture, you don't know what context he's talking out of, you don't know what that person is like. Because of that, the majority of statements comes across differently than it was meant, which in turn leads those who are touchy in that regard to overreacting. The opposite party then feels attacked and launches a counter-attack, and the whole thing is completely blown out of proportions.If you were in a restaurant and ordered a meal that turned out to be half as horrible as you make GT5 sound you wouldn't even look in the direction of that restaurant ever again and finishing the meal would be totally out of question. Yet you play some more GT5 day after day knowing exactly how horrible of an experience it it and then come here to rant about it. Something doesn't match here.
There's one thing I really don't get with all the complaints. According to the opinions seen here the car selection sucks, the track selection sucks, the physics engine sucks, the graphics engine sucks, the sound engine sucks, the menu system sucks, the game being too short sucks, the game being too long sucks, the game being too easy sucks, the game being too hard sucks, A-Spec sucks, B-Spec sucks, grinding sucks, I'm sure there's something I missed that sucks too. Oh yeah, the cardboard trees and spectators. Still must be something left though.
Why on earth are you people still playing the freaking game if it's that hopeless?
If you were in a restaurant and ordered a meal that turned out to be half as horrible as you make GT5 sound you wouldn't even look in the direction of that restaurant ever again and finishing the meal would be totally out of question. Yet you play some more GT5 day after day knowing exactly how horrible of an experience it it and then come here to rant about it. Something doesn't match here.
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Why on earth are you people still playing the freaking game if it's that hopeless?
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Yet you play some more GT5 day after day knowing exactly how horrible of an experience it it and then come here to rant about it. Something doesn't match here.
Something doesn't match here.
There's only ONE reason we bought GT5. Because GT4 was so good. If GT4 had sucked, do you honestly think GT5 would have sold so well..?
Do YOU like grinding? Do you like B-Spec being twice as long as A-Spec (most of their races have twice as many laps as A-Spec)? Do you like the unresponsive, SLOW A.I.?
Do you like having 400 less events less than GT4? Did you even PLAY GT4?
BTW, Greycap, do you actually LIKE any of the things that people are griping about (if you want to use a pejorative for simply expressing disappointment)? Do YOU like grinding?
Do you like B-Spec being twice as long as A-Spec (most of their races have twice as many laps as A-Spec)?
Do you like the unresponsive, SLOW A.I.?
Do you like having 400 less events less than GT4?
Did you even PLAY GT4?
Seeing how little actual grinding I've had to do (perhaps my standards are different to those for others) I at least can't say I dislike it. I've only got two 1000 tickets and I'm at 98% completion, lvl 36 A-Spec and lvl 35 B-Spec so quite honestly I can't see why people have to grind as much as they say unless their definition of grinding indeed differs greatly from mine.
Doesn't bother me. Had they been shorter getting to the first place would have been quite a battle in many cases without a seriously overpowered car.
If you mean the AI that for the first time in the series actually notices I'm next to them in the corners and acts accordingly, tries to give room when being lapped (often fails but at least tries to) and gives a reasonable fight when using a car of a similar class with similar tyres, it's another thing of which I at least can't say I dislike it. While they're too slow for me and you they probably are too fast for many others and that's a problem that can't be cured without rubberbanding, and we all know how well liked that would be.
Around 200 of which are manufacturer races you can now mostly recreate with the one make option, mind. I'm actually happy all the Test Course, Beginner Course and Motorland races are gone as they served very little purpose when it came to really driving the cars. Another thing worth noting is that (if my memory works at all) some races under the same name are longer in GT5 than in GT4. And the gap certainly doesn't feel that big so perhaps I even should say I like it because I liked GT4 and can't see that much of a difference.
Only for five and a half years, 100% completion and everything possible golded. Almost 1300 races won. I think I did.
If we're talking about real factual faults instead of those that are more "I'd like" there are a few. No differences in tyre wear, very little if any difference in grip between slicks and rain tyres in the wet, AI cars practically on rails in the case of a collision. Just a couple of things they really got wrong.
Of course we all want ten thousand cars in full HD, racing on a thousand tracks with fully variable weather, time of day and time of year but that's up to the game makers and hardware limitations. The physics problems, however, aren't.
very little if any difference in grip between slicks and rain tyres in the wet
A Japanese release date of March was announced for GT5, but this didn’t happen, can you offer any explanation why?I am not at all surprised Kaz doesn't do much on the governing board of SCEI as his focus is obviously on his section (PD) however when it comes to making big decisions, his name still says Senior VP SCEI next to it and that means, regardless of how little input he has on overall functions of SCEI, there aren't many people who can just override him.
Again, while he may feel pressure to meet release dates desired by SCEI, he sits on the board that come up with those dates. He may not like them personally, but as a Senior VP, he is a part of the decision making process so they are ultimately (in large part) his decisions.
In fact the reason GT5 has taken so long to come out is undoubatly largely due to his position and ability to demand more time. However even he has to eventually come around and the business side of him has to ultimately overrule his personal project side.
If someone in 2005 had said to GTP that the next GT in 2010 would have all the features and quality that it have now no one would believe it.Do those faults not somewhat disappoint you considering the development time and mutterings from PD during that time?
If someone in 2005 would tell to GTP that the next GT in 2010 would have all the features and quality that it have now no one would believe it.
This is GTP, old enought members know what is a GT game and what to expect from it, most of the major complains come from people ignorant about the series or migrated users from others games that jumped the hype waggon in the last year/months. Maybe they didn't know what were going to buy. The strong points in GT are even stronger in GT5, and a lot of non expected features were adopted as a surprise in the last 1-2 years of development.That was 2005. A lot has happened since then with other racing games. And the fact of the matter is that other games do some things better than GT5. So what GTP members wouldn't have believed possible back in 2005 really isn't anything special in 2010.
This is GTP, old enought members know what is a GT game and what to expect from it, most of the major complains come from people ignorant about the series or migrated users from others games that jumped the hype waggon in the last year/months. Maybe they didn't know what were going to buy. The strong points in GT are even stronger in GT5, and a lot of non expected features were adopted as a surprise in the last 1-2 years of development.
Sorry, but I have to disagree with this. I have been a GT nut from the very beginning and have been playing every title religiously ever since, therefore I consider myself "old enough" in terms of playing Gran Turismo.This is GTP, old enought members know what is a GT game and what to expect from it, most of the major complains come from people ignorant about the series or migrated users from others games that jumped the hype waggon in the last year/months. Maybe they didn't know what were going to buy. The strong points in GT are even stronger in GT5, and a lot of non expected features were adopted as a surprise in the last 1-2 years of development.
You are making this out to be more damning evidence than it actually is. The most that proves is that Kaz isn't the only one who has a say in when the game comes out (which is kind of a "duh" moment). It says nothing about how much of a say he does have.KY: Deciding a release date for a game is always difficult, as it’s not something I can decide on my own. The agreement on a date comes between various parties at Sony, and it’s not necessarily a date I would be hoping for.
When you first posted this, I thought it was a fair enough comment. Now that you have expanded upon it in a way that is basically opposite to reality, it is one of the most unintentionally hilarious thing I've seen in a good while (and, at the same time, still being true!). Yes, 5 years ago, people wouldn't have expected GT5 to struggle to get mid-80s in reviews. 5 years ago, people wouldn't have expected the final game to be so slapdash. 5 years ago, people wouldn't expect the game to be a shoe-in on most video game publication's "most disappointing games of the year" lists. And 5 years ago, people wouldn't have expected GT5 to be the quality it ended up being. They would have expected it to be far, far better.If someone in 2005 had said to GTP that the next GT in 2010 would have all the features and quality that it have now no one would believe it.
Which is why GT5 hasn't exactly been sunshines and rainbows for older members either.This is GTP, old enought members know what is a GT game and what to expect from it,
Um, no?most of the major complains come from people ignorant about the series or migrated users from others games that jumped the hype waggon in the last year/months.
Except when they aren't. Which is the case for many of them.The strong points in GT are even stronger in GT5,
And a lot of features that were expected aren't in the game.and a lot of non expected features were adopted as a surprise in the last 1-2 years of development.
This is GTP, old enought members know what is a GT game and what to expect from it, most of the major complains come from people ignorant about the series or migrated users from others games that jumped the hype waggon in the last year/months.
I also always love how when someone before begin to complain says he is a big fan of GT and that played all the games, like an excuse to give more weight to his words, and when I check he is a new registered member in GTP...I love it when this one is put about, the people who are complaining don't understand GT, what a load of rubbish. I've been playing computer games for nearly 30 years, have owned every console, played every GT to death and most other racing games. I am one of those people you talk about yet I disagree with what you say about GT5. It is a shadow of other GT's and falls short of it's contemporaries in many regards. If people can't see it deficiencies as well as it's top quality bits then they are only deluding themselves.