Is anyone else disappointed with GT5?
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your not far in you say?
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I agree Gt5 should have been out a year or two ago yet I think there is a danger of popping out a new sim/racing game every two years as well. For example NFS series and EA Nascar series. There only so much you can do with a racing sim before it turns out to be more of the same. One of the wise things Nintendo has done is to space out a lot of their first party line up.
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It does seem to be much shorter then GT4, but all the special events and online do give it a different approach(sp?). Graphics can be a downer at some points, and the AI is still bad.
However, it all really pales when you actually drive the game. I seriously think that a lot of the scrutiny that GT5 gets shows that gaming is looked upon in a different way this generation (arguments about trees for example), and it seems that the bigger picture changed meanings when we weren't looking.
All in all, I am not disappointed with the game. Damage was never important to me in GT, and in all of the previous games I never even cared about racing the AI, as it was always just the driving, never about the competition. They made some weird choices with GT5, but it still is an amazing game.
However, it all really pales when you actually drive the game. I seriously think that a lot of the scrutiny that GT5 gets shows that gaming is looked upon in a different way this generation (arguments about trees for example), and it seems that the bigger picture changed meanings when we weren't looking.
All in all, I am not disappointed with the game. Damage was never important to me in GT, and in all of the previous games I never even cared about racing the AI, as it was always just the driving, never about the competition. They made some weird choices with GT5, but it still is an amazing game.
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I don't think that is necessarily what it means at all... simply trying hard isn't the same as producing a good product. Look how much flack Forza takes for implimenting engine swaps (a truly interesting prospect) because it ended up allowing for ridiculous monster cars.
It doesn't matter what compromises you had to make if ultimately they were poor ones...
The most important thing in GT5 are the cars, how they react. This part of the game is perfect and it's the only thing I care about. I've tried many other racing games and only GT Legends or GTR2 on PC gives me the same feeling with a wheel.
I only regret the missing of Abarth brand in the game... Where are the 500 and the 6oo Abarth? :-)
I only regret the missing of Abarth brand in the game... Where are the 500 and the 6oo Abarth? :-)
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Collision physics are terrible.
Have to agree about collisions, but hey, just Race clean n prob fixed! Hehe
I have one more gripe which I'm sure had been mentioned, I really wish they had made a "GT" cockpit, as in a single standard one (well maybe a left and right hand drive version) for all the standard cars, gotta be better than nothing, the other views really detract from the immersion for me.
I have one more gripe which I'm sure had been mentioned, I really wish they had made a "GT" cockpit, as in a single standard one (well maybe a left and right hand drive version) for all the standard cars, gotta be better than nothing, the other views really detract from the immersion for me.
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...WHAT!
What fool would complain about that? Ridiculous engine swaps is on the list of things GT needs in the future. Who in their right mind wouldn't want the option of repowering their car and building wild one-off* virtual customs? Having such extensive modifications available to the player combined with Gran Turismo's physics, gameplay, variety and attention to detail would probably dwarf all other racing games period. It would make for practical uses too, showing the theoretical results of a real-life build, for example.Remember there's a looooong list of things for the series yet to implement, and most of them won't happen at least for a few years. You can be sure this one (ought to) be at the top of the list. Pardon the rant..
I want to cram a V12 into something small
*Presuming there are enough options to create something "one off", though considering the number of options and number of players playing the game, there will probably be no such thing.
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...WHAT!
Remember there's a looooong list of things for the series yet to implement, and most of them won't happen at least for a few years. You can be sure this one (ought to) be at the top of the list. Pardon the rant..
I want to cram a V12 into something small
*Presuming there are enough options to create something "one off", though considering the number of options and number of players playing the game, there will probably be no such thing.
I am not sure if this is a serious question but Forza is constantly bashed for it's engine swaps becuase the result of converting a 2wd to awd car was unreaslisticaly good.
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...WHAT!
Remember there's a looooong list of things for the series yet to implement, and most of them won't happen at least for a few years. You can be sure this one (ought to) be at the top of the list. Pardon the rant..
I want to cram a V12 into something small
*Presuming there are enough options to create something "one off", though considering the number of options and number of players playing the game, there will probably be no such thing.
Should the feature be implemented? Maybe. If it is going to be implemented will it and should it be at the top of the priority list? Probably not.
Yes it is a fact that engine swaps are done in reality but, the options to do so(car/engine compatibility) are very limited. Sure if you hack and slash enough you might be able to get something to fit but people just don't do that all that often, especially at the scale in which you're refering. A V12 in "something small" (I don't know how small you have in mind) just really isn't that realistic and realism is Gran Turismo's main goal.
Given Gran Turismo's mannerisms when it comes to tuning I just don't know if I see this happening at all. I'm all for more features but, this one just doesn't seems like it fits GT's style.
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Haha, valid point. I'll just say this though, we have cars and we have tracks. If we weren't allowed to drive almost any car on any track I would just consider that a poor decision, or bad programming. It's not like the cars you mentioned couldn't be driven on those tracks without ridiculous modifications. The F1 car would probably need something tuned up though!
I have realised that i'm just not enjoying the game anymore.
It's the economics of the game. Nothing rewards you proportionately for your efforts.
It's an odd thing, in other racing games/simulators i haven't minded driving/racing for the sake of driving/racing. I've done plenty of races in the past 10 years offline/online (almost every F1 game out, the GTRs, Race 07, RFactor) of so that haven't rewarded me anything other than perhaps points. Yet when it comes to GT5 i just can't be bothered to put the effort in to grind or just race and let the credits come naturally.
I'm done with this game once and for all, perhaps it just isn't the game for me and it probably be the last GT i'll buy. Bye all.
It's the economics of the game. Nothing rewards you proportionately for your efforts.
It's an odd thing, in other racing games/simulators i haven't minded driving/racing for the sake of driving/racing. I've done plenty of races in the past 10 years offline/online (almost every F1 game out, the GTRs, Race 07, RFactor) of so that haven't rewarded me anything other than perhaps points. Yet when it comes to GT5 i just can't be bothered to put the effort in to grind or just race and let the credits come naturally.
I'm done with this game once and for all, perhaps it just isn't the game for me and it probably be the last GT i'll buy. Bye all.
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I'm living at the in-laws at the moment as we have sold out house and waitng for the next one to become available.
I used to play prologue on my PC monitor 19" and use a Logitech driving force pro, my speakers are really good music production monitor ones too.
Loved the game but got bored of it as did everybody else.
So I am now playing GT5 on the small 17" tv in my in-laws conservatory using the duelshock controller (my wheel is in storage) and I have come to the conclusion that playing a car game using the duel shock instead of a wheel is just so wrong!!
Beg steal and borrow until you can get a wheel thats my advice.
Anyway last night I fired up GT5 and went on-line for the first time and had a race with my cousin (couldn't really do this with GT5P due to no internet private rooms).
Oh what a blast we had!!! We hnad laugh out loud moments due to our battles and it was so much fun!!!
So I'm dying to get into my house and set this game up with my wheel (will buy the new thrustmaster one too).
I was a bit dissapointed at first with the crappy car models and car list but the updates are coming thick and fast now and I reckon if we have some car packs like European hot hatch backs - Astra GTE, RS Turbos etc and oh my god imagine if they released a Sierra Cosworth pack I will be more than happy going forward.
This is the birth of GT5 and I reckon its oing to grow into a monster of epic proporations.
or somthing.
I used to play prologue on my PC monitor 19" and use a Logitech driving force pro, my speakers are really good music production monitor ones too.
Loved the game but got bored of it as did everybody else.
So I am now playing GT5 on the small 17" tv in my in-laws conservatory using the duelshock controller (my wheel is in storage) and I have come to the conclusion that playing a car game using the duel shock instead of a wheel is just so wrong!!
Beg steal and borrow until you can get a wheel thats my advice.
Anyway last night I fired up GT5 and went on-line for the first time and had a race with my cousin (couldn't really do this with GT5P due to no internet private rooms).
Oh what a blast we had!!! We hnad laugh out loud moments due to our battles and it was so much fun!!!
So I'm dying to get into my house and set this game up with my wheel (will buy the new thrustmaster one too).
I was a bit dissapointed at first with the crappy car models and car list but the updates are coming thick and fast now and I reckon if we have some car packs like European hot hatch backs - Astra GTE, RS Turbos etc and oh my god imagine if they released a Sierra Cosworth pack I will be more than happy going forward.
This is the birth of GT5 and I reckon its oing to grow into a monster of epic proporations.
or somthing.
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I just wanted to say the same, eventhough I won`t leave GT forever. But GT5 is missing some magic like GT4. This is the first game I played yet, which makes me wonder "why am I doing this boring xp/money grinding session? I don`t get cool cars, new features or a lot of xp/credits as a reward. And it makes zero fun".
GT5 has alot of new features, but most off them were implemented half assed. I`m playing this game from day one on, but today it was the first time I had a race under wet conditions in A-spec mode. And Im still hope that Ill be able to wittness a day/night transition.
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There are those issues (that I personally consider to be minor) that I would love to see fixed:
Jaggie shadows
Poor alpha handing (as seen with smoke, dirt, and spray behind vehicles)
The occasional AI quirk
No replay for split screen
However all in all I am very happy with GT5.
Jaggie shadows
Poor alpha handing (as seen with smoke, dirt, and spray behind vehicles)
The occasional AI quirk
No replay for split screen
However all in all I am very happy with GT5.
í´m realy disappointed... 2 weeks 85%of game is done...
nice graphik... but crap gameplay... like the most new games... think the ppls are
just look at gt4
~800 cars 100+++ events gt4 was best.... gt5 is like gt3 good graphik but rest is 👎
but what i can say now... ps4 and gt6? no way... i dont buy that sh....
nice graphik... but crap gameplay... like the most new games... think the ppls are
just look at gt4
~800 cars 100+++ events gt4 was best.... gt5 is like gt3 good graphik but rest is 👎
but what i can say now... ps4 and gt6? no way... i dont buy that sh....
I agree 100%. I love the game and even more now that it has mechanical damage. I don't need physical damage, I don't need larger selection of rims, I don't need more paint options. I am driving the car not looking at it. Nobody says hey nice car as I am passing them. Premium cars? Don't care, I drive from bumper cam as I found it easier and less distracting. What would make the game that much better? Expand online play, leader boards and cash rewards. And allow more modification to performance. I don't need engine swaps that seems arcade to me. Just more advanced tuning. But even as it is it is good. Shadows too Jaggy? Lol I am racing, I guess I am not good enough to race and inspect the showdows but my eyes are always looking forward. The physics are what matter most and they got that right. Of course it would be nice if they could have everything in the game everybody wants but that will never happen on any game. As far as patches go, I love them. It's almost better for me than releasing the game already complete. Part of the joy for me is the excitement leading up to buying something. With patches I am always waiting for that gift to show up when I turn on my PS3. Last night was great. Turned on ps3 and it said "updating v1.3" and I screamed Merry Xmas! every day I go home and turn on GT5 hoping to see that then looking around for what is new.
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Am I missing something here, just unlocked the Extreme series of races and there seems to be a distinct lack of endurance races as per previous GT titles, WTF?
Enduros will be unlocked when you reach level 25.
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To say I am disappointed with GT5 is not the same as to say I don't like GT5. But in this case, yeah, I'm disappointed and I don't like GT5 as much as I liked GT4 at the time I found out about it. Some things done wrong, like the paint system, standard and premium car issue, that thing about the AI everybody keeps mentioning, the 🤬 wheel changing (or better said, lack thereof) in standard cars... Lack of tracks present in GT4, especially my favourites Citta di Aria and Costa di Amalfi. Damn, man. I was hoping I could do everything I did in GT4 in GT5. Seems I won't be able to, and that's a HUGE let down to me.
They should of taken out B-spec and added a drift section or rally section. The races are to easy. i beat most of them and i havent even gotten a decent car for expert series! They used to give you cars when you win for a next race, not now? its really a same.
so many cars but almost no races for those cars, i would rather race a porsche/corvette race then some stupid 12hp honda beat race!
some of the people/scenery/background is weak aswell, for a game 7+ years in the making you would think they do something about that.(yea i know its not about that but for a game that long you would think they step it up)
Dirt 2 and Gird did a good job with that! they have real looking damage, this game promise that and did not. the trees are still 2d! WTF..make them 3d already for a game this long in the making..
i still havent seen the 1000 cars? and the standard cars are crap, i rather have 300 premium cars than a bunch Downloads from GT4..and the damage on standard is weak, looks like the warp tool from photoshop, you cant even change wheels on standard cars.
i still love the game, but the wait was crazy, and from the looks of it they still making changes, we will see as this game pur itself out elite and its not.
so many cars but almost no races for those cars, i would rather race a porsche/corvette race then some stupid 12hp honda beat race!
some of the people/scenery/background is weak aswell, for a game 7+ years in the making you would think they do something about that.(yea i know its not about that but for a game that long you would think they step it up)
Dirt 2 and Gird did a good job with that! they have real looking damage, this game promise that and did not. the trees are still 2d! WTF..make them 3d already for a game this long in the making..
i still havent seen the 1000 cars? and the standard cars are crap, i rather have 300 premium cars than a bunch Downloads from GT4..and the damage on standard is weak, looks like the warp tool from photoshop, you cant even change wheels on standard cars.
i still love the game, but the wait was crazy, and from the looks of it they still making changes, we will see as this game pur itself out elite and its not.
