Is anyone else disappointed with GT5?

[prisonermonkeys]

So be it.

 

[SuperCobraJet]

I'm not holding my breath waiting for those... I'm holding my breath waiting for Shift 2!

I just hope its more polished than the first game.
While I thought it had great potential, the basketball physics on some cars was inexcusable. Especially after being billed as the next great "Sim".

It's getting painfully obvious that the emasculation of A-Spec was a completely deliberate choice. Not a logical one, not a popular one, but obviously deliberate..

Not a very smart one either, IMO.

But it's the ONLY solution to the main problem in the game offline, and sadly, also the easiest to implement. Don't need cut scenes, don't need new tracks or cars. Every car and almost every track in GT5 is woefully underutilized. This fixes that. Nothing else does. It also fixes the main gripes of grinding and ease of filling your car collection..

Certainly a main problem but not the only one.
The level up system is a problem in itself.

PD seem too invested in their original intent to change horses mid-stream, no matter HOW easy it would be for them Pride cometh before a fall.....

This game is so far from Kaz's previous offerings in quality and quantity, I can't help but believe the game smacks of Sony's influence and likely interference.
But hey, who knows.

Sure, GT5 sales have done well (though I read that, I think in the UK, GT5 was reported as the most returned game ever) but GT6 sales may be a shadow of those if they stick stubbornly to their vision. Particularly with Shift 2 and FM4 saying how much of the things we have asked for WILL be part of their new releases, and improved physics being high on their priority list, things may be VERY different by the time that GT6 comes out (2015 or so?!)..

It will be interesting to see how all that turns out.
2015? Pretty optimistic aren't ya?


EDIT: Looks like I might have been a scooch late with this post.
I just realized how prophetic one of his comments turned out to be.

 

[R34EVO9]

Another big gripe for me is that ky seems to not know what he's going to do with this mess he created.

Why did i say that??

He up until now has not give us any info on anything he is doing ( or maybe I am not looking hard enough) its like he is confused so he waits for the last minute to say anything cause he is scared if he says anything before hand and then somehow cant do it he will get blamed ( which is his fault and has showed this behavior with gt4)

So it would be nice to hear what your doing( or trying to do) before you do it so we know what to expect because I am tired of speculating and having to guess whats going to happen

 

[GasolineJunkie]

I'm beginning to get dissappointed with the Seasonal Events. The lack of restrictions is one thing, but the problem that I'm beginning to have is the lack of imagination on the last few.

I mean, running the Miata at Tsukuba...after we had to do 4 hours worth of driving that same setup?
The Ferrari at Monza...after we had to do the Ferrari challenge on that same track?
And there were several races so far on the same track. Why not use a different track every time. Did we even use La Sarthe yet in any Seasonal Bonus Race?

Something like the NASCAR race at the Ring, that had imagination. Or do some races at night, or in the rain. Change it up a bit.

Gripe over.

 

[Tornado]

Keep in mind that Kaz might not be able to completely state his mind on what needs to be done to fix the game.

Developers blogs are rather notorious for being exactly what is on the developer's minds... after everything has been filtered, trimmed and approved by the Publisher.

 

[R34EVO9]

No comment about the actual BODY of the post, though?

If you can read aggression into as mildly worded a post as that, I am sorry. Truly, truly sorry.

Does the AUP mandate that I have to agree with the moderators at all times?

Your a brave soul man..... Dont disagree with people that have more power than you especially when its there job to keep the peace.

I don't think i will ever see your name on this site again:tup:

 

[R34EVO9]

Keep in mind that Kaz might not be able to completely state his mind on what needs to be done to fix the game.

Developers blogs are rather notorious for being exactly what is on the developer's minds... after everything has been filtered, trimmed and approved by the Publisher.

Thats true I cant believe all this cooperate BS that always have to take place...

 

[entropy731]

This game is honestly 8/10 at best. Because I am actually a fan of GT5 I have to give it a 6/10 because I know even an "average" version of GT5 like GT3 was better than this so logically it has to be less than a 7.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Your a brave soul man..... Dont disagree with people that have more power than you especially when its there job to keep the peace.

It is not a question of being forced to agree with us at all times. Destinkeys implied that anybody who disagreed with him was not worth listening to. I asked him to tone it down because looking at his posting history, he has been quite aggressive of late. He chose to interpret this as an attack on his person. So I gave him a little bit of time to think it over and maybe reassess how he presents himself. He only has himself to blame, really.

 

[Starfirebird]

The only thing i'm disappointed with is that there is no hotlap leaderboards.

Sure we get the leaderboards in seasonal events,but it's not the same as you're pretty much limited to what you can do.

If there was a way they could put leaderboards in,even it was only for Premium cars i would be one happy camper.It would make the life of the game much longer.

 

[IncredibleMind]

It is not a question of being forced to agree with us at all times. Destinkeys implied that anybody who disagreed with him was not worth listening to. I asked him to tone it down because looking at his posting history, he has been quite aggressive of late. He chose to interpret this as an attack on his person. So I gave him a little bit of time to think it over and maybe reassess how he presents himself. He only has himself to blame, really.

People here are going to disagree but imo the mods in this forum are too lenient. There is no other forum that is considered a FAN site<(GT PLANET) that allows people to blatantly hype up the competitive products like it is done here.

Profanity and blatant insults don't have to be present for someone to be trolling. And for the record, before anyone gets indignant not everyone who prefers or plays Forza is a troll, i.e. Luminus.

 

[sk0pe]

Somebody just called me stupid for quoting the original and first post of a thread when I was the second one to post in it and I didnt see no action being taken (even if it was not the most smart thing to do on my behalf) but I see now that if I was a moderator here it would have been a diferent matter. In fact I think I could just ban who ever was not in agreement with me. I though someone had to disrespect the AUP or another user for that to happen

This is the case in any situation in life where 1 person has more power over another. No point having it unless you use it right ?
Like a cop with a taser...

 

[SuperCobraJet]

People here are going to disagree but imo the mods in this forum are too lenient. There is no other forum that is considered a FAN site<(GT PLANET) that allows people to blatantly hype up the competitive products like it is done here.

To Jordan's credit, I believe he goes the extra mile in most cases to allow everyone to speak their mind and express their views, within reason of course.

Its one of the main reasons I respect and enjoy this site.

Under the institution of what you recommend, it wouldn't take long until its a pure fanboy club, void of any criticism, legitimate or otherwise.

I must say I don't envy him under the circumstances, which I think are somewhat unique at the present time.

Many here have been sorely disappointed with the release of GT5, having come way overdue and way short of expectation.
Hence the venting and frustration of many seems to be of epic proportions.

Since this is a site dedicated to the GT series, this must be a trying time in many ways under the circumstances.

I only hope leniency will continue to prevail until this time passes.

 

[brainfade]

This thread has become abit of a poop-loop to be fair, I know you guys are posting here with the best intentions in mind = improving the game, but recent events should be enough to tell us the following.

1.1 - The cheating fiascos on GT5P and GT Academy USA just show theres no stance on things like cheating and exploitation of glitches... the fact that theres no response or action taken after mass complaints just proves: PD/Sony are either not bothered about what we have to say or just dont pay attention.

1.2 - Goes into the previous point, recently there has been a feedback section added here, now Jordan and the Mods would be able to tell us by looking at the web traffic data just how much attention Sony and PD are paying to this and I hope the attention isn't lacking, but we can actually see which ideas/comments have been accepted and are completed, so far there is none.

1.3 - Flaws, glitches and mistakes were pointed out as early as a year before release but never got addressed, now this just goes to show something.

2 - Alot of what is being said on this thread is mainly regurgitation of points raised earlier in this same thread, it only looks/comes across different mainly down to our own different ways of wording our communication, effectively this thread is going in circles.

Yes, the majority of us are disappointed with GT5, but I think there is a point to which we should not bother discussing it any further and it is very pointless going on and on and on about it. I think we should set our cross hairs towards GT6 and raise our concerns in respect to THAT game so PD don't colossally balls it up again. I'd like to take this opportunity for the Mods to open up the GT6 forums.

 

[niky]

People here are going to disagree but imo the mods in this forum are too lenient. There is no other forum that is considered a FAN site<(GT PLANET) that allows people to blatantly hype up the competitive products like it is done here.

Profanity and blatant insults don't have to be present for someone to be trolling. And for the record, before anyone gets indignant not everyone who prefers or plays Forza is a troll, i.e. Luminus.

Funnily enough, those same people accuse us of having a pro-Turismo bias and only allowing what we agree with.

This is first and foremost a fan site, for an open discussion on everything related to Gran Turismo. And that includes its competition. We allow all points of view, but we stress that everything must be put in its proper place.

Which is why I noted earlier that this thread and the GT5 vs. Forza thread are to remain open whether or not people want to read complaints about either title or comparisons of GT5 to other games.

Still, some people have trouble accepting these limitations and have tried to push the boundaries of what is and isn't allowed, always backing off just before going over the line.

Frankly, that wastes our time. We have enough newbies to babysit and fires to extinguish as it is.

 

[IncredibleMind]

To Jordan's credit, I believe he goes the extra mile in most cases to allow everyone to speak their mind and express their views, within reason of course.

Its one of the main reasons I respect and enjoy this site.

Under the institution of what you recommend, it wouldn't take long until its a pure fanboy club, void of any criticism, legitimate or otherwise.

I must say I don't envy him under the circumstances, which I think are somewhat unique at the present time.

Many here have been sorely disappointed with the release of GT5, having come way overdue and way short of expectation.
Hence the venting and frustration of many seems to be of epic proportions.

Since this is a site dedicated to the GT series, this must be a trying time in many ways under the circumstances.

I only hope leniency will continue to prevail until this time passes.

Nah, the mods allow us to tear trolls to shreds at other GT5 sites I visit and the mood is far more positive than here even WITH criticism of the game.

More than likely Jordan put the feedback page up to seperate the trolls from the plain dissatisfied. Trolls will simply not bother with giving constructive criticism.

 

[CarreraGT]

Nah, the mods allow us to tear trolls to shreds at other GT5 sites I visit and the mood is far more positive than here even WITH criticism of the game.

More than likely Jordan put the feedback page up to seperate the trolls from the plain dissatisfied. Trolls will simply not bother with giving constructive criticism.

Ha, you just don't know when to quit do you

 

[SuperCobraJet]

effectively this thread is going in circles.

Thats pretty much the meandering but eventual course of all threads.

Yes, the majority of us are disappointed with GT5, but I think there is a point to which we should not bother discussing it any further and it is very pointless going on and on and on about it. I think we should set our cross hairs towards GT6 and raise our concerns in respect to THAT game so PD don't colossally balls it up again. I'd like to take this opportunity for the Mods to open up the GT6 forums.

Your probably right in that GT6 is the only place most of these shortcomings stand a chance of being rectified.

Nah, the mods allow us to tear trolls to shreds at other GT5 sites I visit and the mood is far more positive than here even WITH criticism of the game.

More than likely Jordan put the feedback page up to seperate the trolls from the plain dissatisfied. Trolls will simply not bother with giving constructive criticism.

The feedback page is a constructive way to channel the many dislikes and wants in the game into a request bulletin board.
Not a bad idea.
BTW have you made any suggestions over there?

 

[t.o.]

Funnily enough, those same people accuse us of having a pro-Turismo bias and only allowing what we agree with.

This is first and foremost a fan site, for an open discussion on everything related to Gran Turismo. And that includes its competition. We allow all points of view, but we stress that everything must be put in its proper place.

Which is why I noted earlier that this thread and the GT5 vs. Forza thread are to remain open whether or not people want to read complaints about either title or comparisons of GT5 to other games.

Still, some people have trouble accepting these limitations and have tried to push the boundaries of what is and isn't allowed, always backing off just before going over the line.

Frankly, that wastes our time. We have enough newbies to babysit and fires to extinguish as it is.

Honestly, of all fan sites I've been to (which aren't that many but a few "key" ones in different genres of gaming) this one is the best when it comes to the mods. I really have to tip my hat to you guys. I don't feel the need to have to "snap boot heels together" at attention nor does it seem you have to have a pair of Sony Kneepads to post here. As painful as it may seem to some it can only help the development of the game.

It's one thing for the devs to "know" something needs attention but it's another thing when they can get a taste of the fervor and acrimony of the people who want that change. As long as it doesn't get nasty.

 

[IncredibleMind]

Thats pretty much the meandering but eventual course of all threads.



Your probably right in that GT6 is the only place most of these shortcomings stand a chance of being rectified.





The feedback page is a constructive way to channel the many dislikes and wants in the game into a request bulletin board.
Not a bad idea.
BTW have you made any suggestions over there?

I absolutely have made suggestions and will continue to make even more In the future.

Ha, you just don't know when to quit do you

You have been quite possibly the most negative, uncontributing influence I've seen in any of these threads. One day you hate the game so much that you'll never play it again. The next you claim you play it all the time even though you "so called" criticize it. If you continue, I will literally quote your threads WITH the dates.

 

[CarreraGT]

You have been quite possibly the most negative, uncontributimg influence I've seen in any of these threads. One day you hate the game so much that you'll never play it again. The next you claim you play it all the time even though you "so called" criticize it. If you continue, I will literally quote your threads WITH the dates.

I just enjoy winding you up

 

[IncredibleMind]

I just enjoy winding you up

So you enjoy being the troll that you truly are. Whatever.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Okay, you two, that's enough. I don't want to hear another word from either of you about each other. If you can't keep from each others' throats, then perhaps some time in the cooler to think it over will do you a world of good. There's plenty of space in there for the both of you.

 

[CarreraGT]

I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself.

I will refrain from now on

 

[Ice Cream Paint]

It was waaaaaaayy OVERhyped, standard cars are terrible.

 

[machschnel]

Funnily enough, those same people accuse us of having a pro-Turismo bias and only allowing what we agree with.

This is first and foremost a fan site, for an open discussion on everything related to Gran Turismo. And that includes its competition. We allow all points of view, but we stress that everything must be put in its proper place.

Which is why I noted earlier that this thread and the GT5 vs. Forza thread are to remain open whether or not people want to read complaints about either title or comparisons of GT5 to other games.

Still, some people have trouble accepting these limitations and have tried to push the boundaries of what is and isn't allowed, always backing off just before going over the line.

Frankly, that wastes our time. We have enough newbies to babysit and fires to extinguish as it is.

This is relevant to your disappointment in Gran Turismo 5 how?

 

[niky]

It is relevant to a question asked about the relevance of this thread. In other words, a reminder to everyone about what the topic is.

And the topic is not me. Thank you. I have already posted one such reminder in another thread, and I do not expect to have to babysit people through an explanation of a previous explanation every time I post one. Clear?

 

[entropy731]

Yes.

 

[Gran_Turismo]

In Short. PD spent too much time away from developing the actual game and Sony shot them in the foot by forcing the game to release when it wasn't ready. Hence all the hate and loss of reputation.

That is how we are hear today, I think.

 

[machschnel]

It is relevant to a question asked about the relevance of this thread. In other words, a reminder to everyone about what the topic is.

And the topic is not me. Thank you. I have already posted one such reminder in another thread, and I do not expect to have to babysit people through an explanation of a previous explanation every time I post one. Clear?

Crystal. I just assumed a moderators job was to keep threads on track by quenching petty bickering, or irrelevant questions, not answering said questions (not that any "question was asked") in what seems an attempt to vindicate your own actions/opinions, further derailing the thread.

Sorry for my lack of understanding in these nuances.