IS GT4 HDloader/HDAdvance combatible?

[Gek54]

^ Maybe it's trying to read the disc directly from the drive. Can anyone try to put the original disc inside before loading the game off the HDD? Also, is the SCES, SLES, or SLUS separated from the ELF?

Some guy from another site, after a bit of tweaking, has successfully past the disclaimer screen before going into black screen of death after this yet another disclaimer (can anyone translate?).

Yes I would like to know what site this is too. PM me if you can. THANKS!

 

[roger87]

I think that only fuctions with a game, if you don't have a xenosaga can prove with gta:Sa that is dvd9. if you prove with a movie i think that they don't refresh the toc, because if you put a movie in dvd+r and the play2 hasn't a chip, they go fine.

GTA SA isn't dual layer. It was supposed to be dvd9. but rockstar got a lot of complaints from people with old ps2's, which couldn't read dvd9. because of that they downsampled audio from DTS to pro logic II, so it could fit on a dvd5.

 

[Moadib]

i don't know what it says but it's the same screen i get with the gt4 dec demo
but the demo works tho.. so i don't think it's a warning or someting like "this is a copy you can't play the game".

Translation is a bit rusty, but it says to the effect of "The software's spec is different from the product, so it may not operate. If mis-operation happened we cannot exchange the disc".

So it looks like it has detected that it's not a Japanese console, or PAL/NTSC difference, so warning may not properly operate. And that if it doesn't work on your console, too bad - you bought it. You shoulda checked the spec before purchase.

 

[Litus]

Translation is a bit rusty, but it says to the effect of "The software's spec is different from the product, so it may not operate. If mis-operation happened we cannot exchange the disc".

So it looks like it has detected that it's not a Japanese console, or PAL/NTSC difference, so warning may not properly operate. And that if it doesn't work on your console, too bad - you ought it. You shoulda checked the spec before purchase.

Then we need to change the bios

 

[Eiji]

Then we need to change the bios

I believe the warning screen is an indication that the game has detected that some if its contents have changed since the person has tried to modify some files.

 

[dell_75]

Coming back to the HD loader / advance content
for sure we can pass the game to the hddd, i ve heard that someone who got the internet copy and burned it into a dvd9-r and the game copy doesn t work (got the same problem that apeared when they apsse to the HD)..... i guess the problem is in the image.... anyone who have the original dual layered dvd can try to pass the game to the HD using all methods we have?

 

[the Interceptor]

Coming back to the HD loader / advance content
for sure we can pass the game to the hddd, i ve heard that someone who got the internet copy and burned it into a dvd9-r and the game copy doesn t work (got the same problem that apeared when they apsse to the HD)..... i guess the problem is in the image.... anyone who have the original dual layered dvd can try to pass the game to the HD using all methods we have?

Somebody already did ... check post #75.

 

[dell_75]

Somebody already did ... check post #75.

i checked and i don t see nothing there about it

 

[the Interceptor]

i checked and i don t see nothing there about it

Which other methods do you have in mind then?

 

[dell_75]

Which other methods do you have in mind then?

now i don t know.... lets wait some patch... but we have to do something....

but anyway anyone tried to copy the original game using all methods ?

 

[the Interceptor]

now i don t know.... lets wait some patch... but we have to do something....

Yep, we have to do something ... wait!

but anyway anyone tried to copy the original game using all methods ?

That's what they did in post #75! If you copy the game straight from the original disc, it can not work, cause the dual layer structure of the DVD doesn't work from hdd, it needs to be flattened to one layer. Anyway, I copied the game from the original disc straight away to see what happens, and guess what - it didn't work.

 

[Gravity]

There have been numerous attempts at loading the original purchased game on the HDD, all of which have been unsuccessful. All attempts end in the same outcome, the disclaimer loads, then black screen. This is true across the board, modchip, no-modchip, etc.

Until a patch surfaces, there is no way to load GT4 on the HDD.

 

[iq996]

With isobuster i´ve found 2 files, one system.cnf in an undefined folder, and one big 2,35GB file with an undefined name.

 

[hansiu]

This is from the original disc

 

[iq996]

The 2,35GB file must be accessible with the normal file system?

I don´t understand the PS2 dual layer system? I have PC HD-WMV dual layer DVDs, they only have one big file with 8GB. Is it possible that the 2,35GB are part of GT4.VOL ? I mean, that the file is not 3GB but 5GB big?

 

[Eiji]

There is one file missing from that picture, its the big 2GB file on layer 2, I think its called GT4L1.VOL.

Also I read this on some forum:

On the Sonopress Website you find Infos regarding different press methods..
it seems, that the GT4 DVD is 'burned' one layer from the beginning, the other layer from the end.. with two lead ins..
if sony use this new sonopress feature, no one can burn the DVD... yet

 

[iq996]

You can extract this file with isobuster, recover UDF blabla.

Ah, i will try to make an image from the extracted directory with nero, and transfer it to my ps2 hdd.

 

[Vigilante]

You can extract this file with isobuster, recover UDF blabla.

Ah, i will try to make an image from the extracted directory with nero, and transfer it to my ps2 hdd.

I have been following this thread for a while, and right before checking back at the thread, I was messing around in isobuster as well lol

Keep us updated on your progress 👍

 

[iq996]

Keep us updated on your progress 👍

I don´t know how to make a perfect ps2 image. I´d tried to make it with Nero and the UDF option (others won´t work). And it did´nt work at the moment.

BUT i think it´s the right way :-) I´ll try to get it working.

 

[Dragonmaster]

I don´t know how to make a perfect ps2 image. I´d tried to make it with Nero and the UDF option (others won´t work). And it did´nt work at the moment.

BUT i think it´s the right way :-) I´ll try to get it working.

I don't think it's the right way. Nero is a good tool for burning Audio and Video Discs. That's it.

Making and Burning Images is a part for Alcohol and DVD-Decrypter.

But go on... maybe sooner or later the game will feel compassion with you and let the copyprotection pass.

 

[Vigilante]

I don´t know how to make a perfect ps2 image. I´d tried to make it with Nero and the UDF option (others won´t work). And it did´nt work at the moment.

Yeah the disc should be burned in UDF... I think the reason it's not working from DVD+DL is because none of the backup solutions seem to support discs with multiple data tracks (correct me if I'm wrong)

So, basically, this is what the GT4 disc looks like:


Layer 1, Track 1, UDF:

system.cnf
gt4.vol
core.gt4
scaj_300.07
ioprp300.img
epson\*.*
irx\*.*
net\*.*

Layer 2, Track 1, UDF:

folder?\system.cnf
gt4l1.vol (this filename is verified)

Isobuster reports that the system.cnf on the 2nd layer is placed in a folder. The system.cnf file on the 2nd layer is identical to the one on the first layer.

We'll have to wait and see what HDAdvance does with the gt4l1.vol file included this time, but my guess is that the only way of getting GT4 to work on a backup solution is by ripping files from the .vol files and make the game fit on a DVD5.

Editing the .vol files might be possible if the GT4FS (filesystem) will be documented and a tool is written. I know there already is a tool to extract files from the GT3 .vol files, so we might see this soon

 

[Jim X]

Yeah the disc should be burned in UDF... I think the reason it's not working from DVD+DL is because none of the backup solutions seem to support discs with multiple data tracks (correct me if I'm wrong)

So, basically, this is what the GT4 disc looks like:


Layer 1, Track 1, UDF:

system.cnf
gt4.vol
core.gt4
scaj_300.07
ioprp300.img
epson\*.*
irx\*.*
net\*.*

Layer 2, Track 1, UDF:

folder?\system.cnf
gt4l1.vol (this filename is verified)

Isobuster reports that the system.cnf on the 2nd layer is placed in a folder. The system.cnf file on the 2nd layer is identical to the one on the first layer.

We'll have to wait and see what HDAdvance does with the gt4l1.vol file included this time, but my guess is that the only way of getting GT4 to work on a backup solution is by ripping files from the .vol files and make the game fit on a DVD5.

Editing the .vol files might be possible if the GT4FS (filesystem) will be documented and a tool is written. I know there already is a tool to extract files from the GT3 .vol files, so we might see this soon

Well, judging by the other GT4 demos that have been "extracted" (BMW demo without time limit and Japanese Demo without timelimit) someone already knows it. I am not sure if it was VV and Pricer that put in the grunt work of actually building the extraction process but they were involved in a .ppf file used to extract and rewrite the .iso of the BMW demo. Maybe they can key someone in on how exactly to write it, or a person with programming knowledge can break down the extraction program that extracted the gt4.vol files.....


IT'S IN THIS THREAD...

 

[Dragonmaster]

Yeah the disc should be burned in UDF... I think the reason it's not working from DVD+DL is because none of the backup solutions seem to support discs with multiple data tracks (correct me if I'm wrong)

So, basically, this is what the GT4 disc looks like:


Layer 1, Track 1, UDF:

system.cnf
gt4.vol
core.gt4
scaj_300.07
ioprp300.img
epson\*.*
irx\*.*
net\*.*

Layer 2, Track 1, UDF:

folder?\system.cnf
gt4l1.vol (this filename is verified)

Isobuster reports that the system.cnf on the 2nd layer is placed in a folder. The system.cnf file on the 2nd layer is identical to the one on the first layer.

We'll have to wait and see what HDAdvance does with the gt4l1.vol file included this time, but my guess is that the only way of getting GT4 to work on a backup solution is by ripping files from the .vol files and make the game fit on a DVD5.

Editing the .vol files might be possible if the GT4FS (filesystem) will be documented and a tool is written. I know there already is a tool to extract files from the GT3 .vol files, so we might see this soon

1. on Layer0 are the files listened above and on Layer1 there is only the GT4L1.vol (That there is a folder is an Error of IsoBuster cause you used the UDF recovery function)

2. Extracting the GT4.VOL is not possible with the GT3 Volume Extractor. Since the Japanese Demo of GT4 they changed the GT4.VOL looks like its encrypted.

3. When you build a new Image be aware of using the original LBA values otherwise it won't boot up even to the disclaimer

 

[Slick6]

Does anyone here use DVD Decrypter? I use this to extract the .iso's from PS2 games to my computer. Could someone see if this can extract the full image? I know it works for some other DVD9 games.

 

[the Interceptor]

People already have managed to extract the whole image using DVD-Decrypter. The problem is to get it back together so that it'll work.

 

[Slick6]

So is it one big .iso file? If it is, then all there is to do is transfer it to the HD.

 

[the Interceptor]

So is it one big .iso file? If it is, then all there is to do is transfer it to the HD.

Yes and no. Yes, it's one big ISO file, but you can't just transfer it to the HD. I mean you can, but it won't work, because the file still has the dual layer structure inside. You must access and extract the data from both layers and generate a new ISO file with one bigger layer. The problem is that there is some kind of copy protection which seems to check for the original disc, so all of the possible methods to get a DVD9 to the PS2s HD didn't work yet.

 

[Slick6]

Oh, I see now. 👍 That sucks. 👎

 

[InfinaRacer]

the Interceptor > Would it be possible to transfer the image to the hd, and have the disc in the tray? That way the hd image would be able to read from the disc as well? Please correct me on any assumptions I have made.

 

[Slick6]

No it wouldn't, you need to have your HDLoader or HD Advance disk in the console to read from the HD. I think it would also defeat the purpose of using the HD.