Is GT5 Dying?

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Is GT5 Dying?

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Another day, yet another is GT5 dead/dying/done-with thread. It's only dead if you want it to be. If you purely rely on career mode and believe it's only saviour is DLC (yawn) then yes, it's dead - for you. For the rest of us who like racing against one another and participating in leagues then no, it's as alive as the day we unwrapped the cellophane from the box.
 
Tired Tyres
Tried Arcade mode with the Arcade cars? This can produce some good races.

Practice races with no tuning and a two grade downgrade of tyres can also make for a reasonable race.
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Yes I've tried arcade racing, it doesn't really cut it. I'm a pretty good racer and the AI pose no real challenge. I could downgrade tyres but I can't really be bothered with the experimentation needed to get it right.

Griffith500
So I guess games like GRiD, with their "narrative"-led experience, are more your sort of thing? I like that sort of thing from time to time, although I'm not fond of the half-brain-cell level Codies seem to aim those games at these days...
I'm not sure how much effort PD should put into a story mode, but at least a better, more varied and more structured career mode would be a great start.


Of course we're not going to see that for GT5. So I'll end by echoing what Simon says: It depends on what you're wanting from the game. I like playing with engine sounds, so (as far as car / racing games go) I'm only really playing LFS with my own sound mods, which is enough for me for now. If GT6 adds something along a similar line to that, then I'll be so very happy indeed.
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No, I don't really mean it like that. I don't like those cheesy 'you're the driver, follow your career' things from GRID, what I mean is simply the game gives you something to do. So what I do like in GRID is not the narrative approach but simply the structure of the career thrown at me. GT5 doesn't have enough of that. Once the very shot A-Spec mode and Special events are done, then you're done as far as single player is concerned. PD have given us seasonal events but we all know how they play out, I've no desire to come back and play those.
 
GT5 as a game was D.O.A in my opinion! However, I use it mainly to go motor racing online, so seeing as my love for that has never waned, the online racing is still alive for me & always will be, as long as I have other clean drivers to race with of course.


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SimonK
Again not something I do, I've tried joining leagues before and I just don't have the ability to play at specific times.
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I see your troubles with playing online with time and the commitment in league races, and you seem to prefer offline gameplay.

If you are interested in drop in drop out races, feel free to send me FR - GTP_Orido, I am online everyday, I can do races from around 5pm to 10pm UK time or mornings/afternoon, anytime basically, my home is my office :), I am flexible with room settings, aids, pp tires, whatever cater your taste, I can do, it's fun that matters. Or do this one :

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=263457

A new concept, no preset schedule, the events can be completed with other racers any time within the time frames specified for those events.

Racers will match up for 1-to-1 battles with up to 3 different racers, within the alotted time range, at each racer's convenience of scheduling, and report the results of these rival matches. It has scoring systems given by racers to each other for clean and fair racing, encouraging good conduct and sportsmanship.

Sorry for the off topic.
 
I'm completely indifferent to whether GT5 "dies" or not. I play the game on my own, for my own satisfaction, and what others do doesn't bother me.
 
Peasantslayer
I remember playing San Andreas Multiplayer on PC about 5 years ago, they thought that with GTA IV coming out in 2008 that it would surely die but it's still as popular as it was back then.
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I played SAMP- as Mayor BDizzle. That game had some longevity.

Keep it coming, guys.
 
SimonK
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No, I don't really mean it like that. I don't like those cheesy 'you're the driver, follow your career' things from GRID, what I mean is simply the game gives you something to do. So what I do like in GRID is not the narrative approach but simply the structure of the career thrown at me. GT5 doesn't have enough of that. Once the very shot A-Spec mode and Special events are done, then you're done as far as single player is concerned. PD have given us seasonal events but we all know how they play out, I've no desire to come back and play those.
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Ah, well I'm right with you on all of that. I guess I'm "blessed" in being quite content to just amble about in / test drive different cars, too, which is about all I do with GT5 these days, plus a bit of online racing when I can be bothered.
 
If you wanted serious door to door racing, GT's AI could never fulfill that desire. So that aspect was dead from the start. Improvements were thankfully made along the way but still it's remained a TT game offline. So with that in mind no, it's not dead with continued weekly events.

Seems like the opinion of PD letting GT5 "die" springs from the lack of promised DLC and the inevitable comparison to other console/PC games. GT Academy and it's lingering events became the focus of GT5 for the last several months. Interesting that a week or so after the final event, a game update and some DLC becomes available.

I don't get why people still complain about the lack of a decent career mode 2 years into the game's life. To try and get PD's attention for the next game is that it? PD was thoroughly and rightly bashed about this when it was released. It's not like PD/Kaz isn't aware of this and the continued seasonals have been their attempt to atone for that. Hard to imagine GT6 not being vastly improved in this department.

But yes I agree, if a fun and involving offline career was all I wanted then GT5 was dead from the get go. As long as folks still want to race against each other within the PS3's limitations, then online won't die. If I was more serious I would move on to a pc sim for sure.

Edit: Personally for me to get any enjoyment out of an unfinished game, I've had to go with a self starter attitude like so many others. Thanks to guys who keep race groups/leagues afloat, the WRS and folks like McClaren with his nightly shuffle and car of the week posts. It's been pretty rewarding to not have to rely on PD with all the grassroots racing to be had. To me it's even better this way.
 
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maxpontiac
The game is selling about 20,000 copies per week, so the answer to PDI and Sony is no.

However, this thread might make it seem like it is since topics like this attract the unhappy individuals.
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Spot on there, generally people who think it is dying will vote as soon as they see the thread.
 
I voted yes because of my personal feelings recently... it's offline part its pretty much dying for me, but the online part is still alive and kicking. Like amar said, lots of online rooms, the constant flow of seasonal events (but we still need MORE. Why not 3-4 events per week? how hard can it be?)...

Gran Turismo will always be my favorite game. What all of us need to do from time to time is to breath some fresh air... play other games, go outside... then, go back to GT5 and it'll be on fire again for some time.

Other than that, I think the game is having a pretty big lifespan and it could be much better with even more attention by PD. We know they now must be 90% focused on GT6, but those DLCs are definitely getting weak. As a diehard GT fan, I must say I'm getting nuts, crazy, mad, desperated because of their last attitudes. Talk to us damn!!!! Even if you are going to tell that we will only have more content in 6 months from now, but DAMN, TALK TO US.

Cmon! I would buy GT6 even if I already had seen 50% of its content on GT5 or whatever. Why hide it so much? Why save it so much? A small but consistent DLC strategy would add a lot more life for us, eg:

Per month: 3-4 different cars (1 racing, 1 normal/street, 1 classic car)

Every 2 months: 1 new track

And give us somewhere to see and use our DLC! Why the AI doesn't use the DLC content? Tease us! Make the AI use the damn cars!!!
 
Been dying out since after the 1st year it was released. The online was fun, then small kids came into the mix and ruined it for everyone with there "Pin-n'-go" style of racing where they just slam into you to stop instead of using the brakes and things like that. After about the 1st year, most people were 40 A-Spec and B so there really was no need for playing anymore, thus they started collecting the 0/0/0 cars. Once those were mostly collected, many people just set the game down and never played it again. I for one will always be a fan of the GT series; Although there are some flaws with the game, it is always fun to sit down and play it. I think that GT6 won't see the sales GT5 did because of what happened to GT5 and that is kind of sad, but i still think that it won't be a dead game.
 
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With the HSV coming, GT5 is very well alive for me!
 
If it was a horse I think it would be shot.
So yeah I suppose.
 
What does it matter what the masses do or play? if you and your friends enjoy racing on GT5 who cares what the rest are up to?

Unless you mean that one day im going to turn my GT5 player on ( PS3 ) and it wont work because its dead then its a mute point.

All games lose popularity over time but it means nothing
 
CJSpencer77
What does it matter what the masses do or play? if you and your friends enjoy racing on GT5 who cares what the rest are up to?

Unless you mean that one day im going to turn my GT5 player on ( PS3 ) and it wont work because its dead then its a mute point.

All games lose popularity over time but it means nothing
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I think you mean moot point. ;)
 
I still love GT5 but it's definitely lost its that can't put down factor it had for the first 12months I had it. This last 12 months I've been waiting for new content watching the competitors blow up with dozens of new cars and it gets a little disappointing after a while. I still play regularly just not as much.
 
In my opinion, it is not a dying game yet...

It's been continually supported by Polyphony Digital alongside development of our next Gran Turismo. They may have left some major glitches such as the tire glitch (no sound and no grip at random times, until you leave the room it stays with you) as well as the clutch.. However these might both be fixed with the next update.

I do believe however that after these changes to the game, I feel like Polyphony Digital will stop the support, or support it much less. This does not mean that the game is dead, slowly dying? Maybe.

I have no trouble finding fun on Gran Turismo, online gave many opportunities for a blast! Find fast, clean, cool people. Do some recommended car racing.. All driver. You can't tell me this game doesn't provide an awesome experience.

It's still VERY alive.
 
It appears to be its in its final few updates. Already, this update is nearly 2/3 of a month longer wait than the original "every 2 months" mentioned by Kaz.

Hopefully they start wrapping up GT5 so they can shift their focus to 6.
 
Maintainence/DLC schedule/updates becoming further & further apart. It's dying slowly.

PD's lack of focus, for better/worse has made GT5 what it is. Though it's nice that PD still support GT5, shoot the dying horse, move on & focus on staying focused on that new project.
 
GT5 was died for me 10moths ago!
I was a GT5 addict and I have played hundreds of hours online(maybe some of you remembers me with a alot of hours at the green hell)but 10months ago I switched to rfactor 2 and after testing the physics/fbb of the new title of ISI I sold my ps3/GT5 and I won't play GT5 anymore!
 
GT5 isn't dead for me as I only bought it nine months ago. I am still level 31, and have only completed one endurance race. After I complete A-Spec mode, I will focus on filling my garage with at least one of every car in the game (Other than DLC and unattainables). After that, I imagine I will shelve it until the next update/DLC/B-Spec Seasonal comes out.
 
Dead game since a year or so... The updates and DLC are ridiculously poor if you compare to other car games... how can you make DLC that have only 3 or 4 cars when all other car games can make 10 or 15 ? How can you propose only 2 or 3 new tracks when other devs can make a whole new world, a whole new city in half the time?

The whole online experience is so shallow and unthought that finding good racing lobbys is a pain in the bum. Compare it with autolog and you'll understand that GT5 is a dying dinosaur.

The next update fixes problems that have been there since the very first day! 2 years to fix the tyres in endurance?! The T500RS has had troubles from the very start: you could not actually change the FFB strenght. It took PD a teay to aknowledge it!

Now they are fixing the clutch problem with the TH8... which means that, as I can testify, it was not working properly for a whole year! How hard is it to fix these things for the hardcore fans that invested 500€ in the very wheel PD supported? (yes: I have a T500rs + TH8 Shifter... annoyed as hell about this disrespect)

The patches seem to have no real logic: they fixed minor problems and refused to fix big ones... not speaking of patches that were just patching the previous patch...

For instance, the soft race tyres were ALWAYS more efficient than the hard ones... even in endurance races... which means that you just ruined the whole point of tyres strategy (though the game pretends to use it).... That problem was raised very soon and still, it took them months and months to fix it (well...we'll see if it's really fixed soon).

GT5 is a mess from the very beginning. I think the loss of players has been massive from the very start... and PD never really did what it would have taken to fix this.
 
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Most of the friends I have that bought GT5 sold it a week later for Forza. Or just sold it.
 
MOTORTRENDmitch
In my opinion, it is not a dying game yet...

It's been continually supported by Polyphony Digital alongside development of our next Gran Turismo. They may have left some major glitches such as the tire glitch (no sound and no grip at random times, until you leave the room it stays with you) as well as the clutch.. However these might both be fixed with the next update.

I do believe however that after these changes to the game, I feel like Polyphony Digital will stop the support, or support it much less. This does not mean that the game is dead, slowly dying? Maybe.

I have no trouble finding fun on Gran Turismo, online gave many opportunities for a blast! Find fast, clean, cool people. Do some recommended car racing.. All driver. You can't tell me this game doesn't provide an awesome experience.

It's still VERY alive.
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You aren't allowed to have an opinion until we upload the podcast.

J/k... samesies...
 
I'm one of those people who preordered GT5. After about two years, I still find it fun. However, I really feel that the game is on its last legs now. The update is coming at a longer time from that usual. Also, when we got dlc cars, we would get a pack of multiple cars. Now we are getting cars we have to pay for individually. Tuning, making custom courses, and photomode keep me interested for now. Even online is going downhill, though that's more of an issue with the people.
 
McClarenDesign
Is GT5 Dying?
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Of course it is, and to argue otherwise is just silly. It's like with the lives of humans, wherewith you spend the first part of it growing up, growing bigger and better, and then you spend the bulk of your life withering away until you cease to live any longer. GT5 was released in late 2010, its installed base grew and millions of people played it for a while, and then after a few months the number of people still playing it started dropping off and continued doing so to date.

I don't have precise figures and it's probably pretty difficult measuring the number of people actually playing without settling for simply measuring online activity, which would never have been indicative of the full number, but I'd bet good money that within six months of GT5's release the majority of players who had bought the game had by then moved on. By the end of 2011 it was probably more like ninety percent had left. Now we're roughly two years from release, where it should just be a dwindling number of stragglers who were unable or unwilling to buy an Xbox.

"Hey, I said not to mention Forza!" I didn't. I just mentioned a very relevant point, and it is irrefutably relevant there. To avoid it is to avoid the facts and to fail to adequately address the topic question.

"GT5 isn't dying for me." That's fine, but doesn't matter. The topic question wasn't whether it was dying for me or not, or for you or not, but simply "Is GT5 dying" and the answer is obviously "yes". Some players playing doesn't change the fact that the vast majority have left.

"True GT fans would still be playing." Only if they don't own any other game consoles. A great example is my buddy Terry, who has long adored the GT series and boasted about the enormous amount of time he spent with each; how he played them for years apiece. He expected to do the same with GT5. He moved on months before I did, and I moved on by about ten months from release. If he was into tattoos, he'd probably have a GT tattoo on him somewhere, and he still didn't even stick with GT5 for as much as a year. Clearly then it isn't a matter of how loyal of a fan you are, but more of having other things to be doing; newer things and even some better things.
 
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