Is GT5 Over

[Scaff]

Are invalid laps ranked amongst the valid ones in GT then?

No invalid laps don't count at all in GT5, however what GT5 and FM4 consider 'invalid' appear to be very different.

 

[Spagetti69]

I believe a lot of the seasonal players are competing based on LB times. I don't really see it for the challenge of the actual race. Maybe the money element too.

Goes to show I think of the community's desire for Leaderboards. Some people who I know migrated to other stuff purely on the lack of leaderboards.

Great shame and sorely missed. Surprisingly one of the least talked about updates around here.
Probably won't get introduced at this late date though.

The GT academy is another hit due to leaderboards I think. Not all participants could apply even if they won. They just like the LB.

 

[Vend1go]

The GT academy is another hit due to leaderboards I think. Not all participants could apply even if they won. They just like the LB.

Those people who are Nr1.,2 ,3 ... they play GT Academy day'n'night. So no ordinary people cant make it to the top. And yes i play gt academy only for LB and cars.

And Ofcourse no, GT5 isnt dying. I playing it from release day and i dont even get bored of playing with it , maybe becauze i got really good friends and g27+playseat.

 

[JDMKING13]

Those people who are Nr1.,2 ,3 ... they play GT Academy day'n'night. So no ordinary people cant make it to the top. And yes i play gt academy only for LB and cars.

And Ofcourse no, GT5 isnt dying. I playing it from release day and i dont even get bored of playing with it , maybe becauze i got really good friends and g27+playseat.

Ding Ding 💡 The driving is to damn good in GT5(abs off) I drive with 3/4 friends everyday and we make up our custom theme races. My favorite was the McLarens battle on the ring, it was dusk, foggy and one of the best time I had with GT5. The day we get to really customize ours cars I might loose my job and wife.

 

[Mac K]

It's unfortunate a lot of people seem set on picking a side, one way or the other. I'm all too happy that I took the plunge and picked up an Xbox 360 not as a replacement for my PS3, but to complement it. Having both games is a win/win situation, and after over six months with FM4, and a year and a half of GT5, I can still say both games excel at different things.

That said, other than this recent leak about Motegi, it has never really been made clear if GT5 will see any further DLC, not counting the sticker-jobs that are the GTAcademy prizes. But the game is far from over - those who've been around the online communities from back in the PS1/PS2 days will tell you that there's always something to do. That's the great thing about racing games, especially ones with customization. We did "online racing" (in the time trial, submit times sort of way) for a decade before Prologue showed up!

Might be one of the best posts in this thread, nicely put Slip.

 

[TheeFrogmanlego]

I hope the game isn't dead, I planned on playing some this weekend. Mini rant, that is such an overused phrase, is blah blah dead. Why is it whenever someone on the internet becomes bored with something or doesn't like it it is dead? Hardcore gaming is dead, motion controls are dead, portable systems are dead, PS3 is dead, XBOX360 is dead, GT5 is dead, it's all dead if you believe forums.

To answer your question is GT5 dead, no, it is not. I was just on and it still works. People are still playing and enjoying the game. They are still updating the Seasonals and OCD on a weekly basis. From the leaked photos of Twin Ring Motegi it seems PD is still updating and adding to it. When the servers shut down, GT6 is released, and the game implodes on itself then you can say it's dead. Until then, I'm going to enjoy what I find to be a very very good game.

I find it funny that people say its dead, look at the time trials , 150k + records when you finish on bronze.. now imagine the thousands who don't even participate or bother to finish the race.. the fan base for this game is easily 700k people strong... I mean it sold 7 million copies!

 

[tpark103]

I love this game and I'll be in it till gt6 comes out but it's dead!!! Face it!

 

[JDMKING13]

I love this game and I'll be in it till gt6 comes out but it's dead!!! Face it!

In your opinion dude, numbers don't lie.

 

[analog]

It's all handled a bit strangely isn't it? First there seemed to be no plans for DLC at all, then there suddenly was with a strong suggestion it would be a common occurence (which it was for a while) with boasting about having pools of content available, or something along those lines, and that anything they could release via DLC they would and then suddenly it seems to stop without any apparant reason (aside from GT-Academy ofcourse but that's just speculating, it wasn't or isn't clearly communicated).

This rather haphazard or inconsistent approach is a bit puzzling, if they really do have a lot of content they could release and people are literally begging to pay for it, why not do so as most companies would kill for such an opportunity, especially in times like these.
So there must be a reason or reasons this obvious moneytrain has come to a hold for now, the aforementioned GT-Academy (which I doubt), saving most content for GT6 instead because they see it could be released quicker than initially thought or something completely different and unrelated.

I know some will point out DLC wasn't promised to be released every 2 months, merely suggested at most, but that's one of the main issues I guess, lacking a clear communication and sticking to their story instead of continuously changing the strategy it seems without it being explained before or after.
As for GT5 itself as it currently is, I'm getting bored with it right now but that's just a personal thing as I really need to start buying another game to play for a while (other than the ones I already own), considering I hardly drove any Standard car for a long time, I'm actually surprised it didn't bore me a long time before with the limited number of Premium cars available.
Which at least says something I guess.

 

[Mac K]

I love this game and I'll be in it till gt6 comes out but it's dead!!! Face it!

Thats completely contradicting right?

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I read the OP and a few comments... and I have this to say:

GT5 isn't over, not even close.
Why? Because of sites like this...
Gran Turismo is such a close-knit community unlike any other.
Even with sub-par community features built into the game, us Turismo players congregate in places like this (GT Planet) and with all the clubs, leagues, events, teams, etc. always ongoing with the support of the dedicated community, we thrive!!

Very inspiring but that's not what people mean by dead or being over. People aren't saying GT5 is going to be put away by mass amounts of players. Rather PD is putting it away to focus on GT6, thus the production and build up has been completed or is coming to an end for Gt5. What you're talking about and what many here are on about are two different things.

Of course people wont stop playing GT5 for a long time to come. I mean look at the GT before GT5, the sub-forums for them are alive still. People play GT-GT4 still, yet PD couldn't care I mean they're probably humbled by it but that's about it.

In your opinion dude, numbers don't lie.

What numbers?

 

[tpark103]

U miss understand the thread!

 

[Waheed]

Again, if the game "died" for you, and you don't play online much, do so, and enter events and stuff, will feel like a new game

 

[cbabb]

That.

PD could update this game for years and essentially 'turn it into' GT6. But there are some limitations to updates. I wouldn't want to wait on a 5GB update. That's best left for discs. They could even continue updating 5 when 6 is released. The game isn't really dead. Just less players. The biggest downfall to 5, as stated numerous times, is its lack of content. IE: Races/Challenges/Events.

I for one dislike that the AI is 'dumber' for the younger ages. Even on Sports Hard with the rest of AI, I obliterate them. About the only fun I had that was worth a challenge was the License tests & the X events.

 

[RikkiGT-R]

The entirety of this thread makes no sense whatsoever.
"Is GT5 dead?" is a completely nonsensical question. When you buy GT5 initially, you buy a game on a disc that you can play for as long as you wish; the makers are under no obligation to continue adding to your purchase. The game itself can only be 'dead' to an individual when he or she decides to put it away that final time.

I bought the game again last week after a year's hiatus from it. Having loads of fun, playing between GT5 and FM4. Couldn't care less about DLC, new cars, new tracks and all that.


GTP Members high as xxxx, arguing over hypotheses and xxxx.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

The entirety of this thread makes no sense whatsoever.
"Is GT5 dead?" is a completely nonsensical question. When you buy GT5 initially, you buy a game on a disc that you can play for as long as you wish; the makers are under no obligation to continue adding to your purchase. The game itself can only be 'dead' to an individual when he or she decides to put it away that final time.

I bought the game again last week after a year's hiatus from it. Having loads of fun, playing between GT5 and FM4. Couldn't care less about DLC, new cars, new tracks and all that.


GTP Members high as xxxx, arguing over hypotheses and xxxx.

As far as production goes and updating said game, it may be coming to a close. When you end the production of a car or support for a system that means production is over. Same idea here for GT5. Support is being shifted toward GT6 more so and then fully down the line. They may be under no obligation but it would be counter productive to not manage and make sure that the product is bug free. GT5 had plenty of bugs and if PD were to ignore that, it would probably have reflected even worse as they gear toward GT6.


Once again that is what the thread means, being "dead" to a player as far as wanting to play a game or not is a different matter. As well as a subjective personal matter at that.

 

[RikkiGT-R]

Once again that is what the thread means, being "dead" to a player as far as wanting to play a game or not is a different matter. As well as a subjective personal matter at that.

This is the only point of the thread I was targeting.

 

[tpark103]

The entirety of this thread makes no sense whatsoever.
"Is GT5 dead?" is a completely nonsensical question. When you buy GT5 initially, you buy a game on a disc that you can play for as long as you wish; the makers are under no obligation to continue adding to your purchase. The game itself can only be 'dead' to an individual when he or she decides to put it away that final time.

I bought the game again last week after a year's hiatus from it. Having loads of fun, playing between GT5 and FM4. Couldn't care less about DLC, new cars, new tracks and all that.

GTP Members high as xxxx, arguing over hypotheses and xxxx.

YEAH RIGHT!!!! As I stated in my original post. Other racers continue to get new content. Is this game DEAD? Are developers no longer wasting there time on thus one and focusing on the next iteration? It was a simple thought that I pondered that some how went over your head!

 

[deadcat777]

I would say YES! This game is over.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

This is the only point of the thread I was targeting.

It didn't seem like it and still somewhat doesn't, but now that you've said otherwise I'll just have to go along with it.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

The entirety of this thread makes no sense whatsoever.
"Is GT5 dead?" is a completely nonsensical question. When you buy GT5 initially, you buy a game on a disc that you can play for as long as you wish; the makers are under no obligation to continue adding to your purchase. The game itself can only be 'dead' to an individual when he or she decides to put it away that final time.

I bought the game again last week after a year's hiatus from it. Having loads of fun, playing between GT5 and FM4. Couldn't care less about DLC, new cars, new tracks and all that.

This does raise an interesting topic about games in general, now that we live in the era of readily-available broadband internet access: we have a (somewhat accurate) barometer for how "in" a game still is. Back during the 8, 16, and 32 bit generations, we only had friends to go off of how popular a game was (or rental stores), or in the early days of message boards, seeing how many other nerds shared a similar obsession with Demios. Then, internet connection became common on consoles, and shortly after, that's suddenly mutated into the belief that a game is "dead" if it isn't supported with regular stimulus packages, er, DLC. Which is odd, since we then have other folks complaining that DLC is ruining the current generation of games...

YEAH RIGHT!!!! As I stated in my original post. Other racers continue to get new content. Is this game DEAD? Are developers no longer wasting there time on thus one and focusing on the next iteration? It was a simple thought that I pondered that some how went over your head!

Other games continue to get content, sure, but there aren't many console racing games that had DLC packages so late after their initial release. GT's last DLC was well over a year after the game first went out on shelves: most games have wrapped all their new content DLC's up well before the year mark, and use it to instead sell a "Game Of The Year" or "Complete Edition" copy of the game with all then-current DLC included. Much like GT5 XL, come to think of it.

Plus, this hint of Motegi in GT Academy could mean there's more DLC coming for GT5 - important track DLC as opposed to cars, no less - so you can't rule that out.

 

[RikkiGT-R]

It didn't seem like it and still somewhat doesn't, but now that you've said otherwise I'll just have to go along with it.

In fairness I was drunk last night and so was probably being a little over-dramatic

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

In fairness I was drunk last night and so was probably being a little over-dramatic

We all have those nights once in a while.

 

[cbabb]

Then, internet connection became common on consoles, and shortly after, that's suddenly mutated into the belief that a game is "dead" if it isn't supported with regular stimulus packages, er, DLC. Which is odd, since we then have other folks complaining that DLC is ruining the current generation of games...

This is why I believe that 80% - 90% of games today are 'rushed' into development and spend little time in the oven only to be released tasteless and under-cooked. Example: Need For Speed. IMO: The last good one was Underground 2. They figure "Hey we can patch it and add stuff." No. Why can't you just make a full, complete game like you did with the PS1 and PS2? Granted GT5 was delayed multiple times, so another delay would only drive people mad. Therefore the game, to Kaz, was unfinished.

Side Note:
You don't always have to wait to be given something to do. You can find something to do. You have over 1,000 cars at your disposal.
As you can see today, people still play the first and second GT. It's how much the user values that game. If you think it's dead, then obviously you don't value it.

 

[tpark103]

Don't get confused I still play daily. I have my old PS2 and my copies of GT3, GT4, and Prolog. I'm simply wondering if we are done with support in the way of new content for this version of the game. The recent release of GT Academy has pumped a breath of fresh air into the game for us all. Those of us whom come here everyday checking for news on new tracks and cars know that finally something is coming, granted at this point it's only a Nissan Leaf and a S15 Silvia, but I for one am not complaining.

Finally, I will play on as I am a fan always have been always will be. My question to you and my GTP brothers and sisters since it apparently wasn't stated clearly, has GT5 run it's course, is Kaz and team now finished supporting this version of the game and focusing n the next one? Are all these DLC wish lists a waste of time for GT5 and will they be on GT6? Is GT5 DEAD?

 

[RikkiGT-R]

In terms of "have they stopped adding to GT5 and focused their attentions on GT6?" then I actually hope so.

GT5 is the worst of the lot. Hear me out

With the power they (PD) had at their disposal, the budget for development, and the time it took to deliver the finished game, Gran Turismo 5 was a massive disappointment.
I'll not go into the negative points again here because we've all read them time and again.
To their credit, PD quickly realised the errors, especially with the in-game economy and horribly long-drawn-out XP levelling system, and so added things like seasonal events to help us along in that respect. But still, the original GT5 out of the box seemed half-baked, which is remarkable for something they spent over half a decade developing.

Anyway, maybe it'll be lessons learned for GT6. I really hope PD forget about all the unnecessary nonsense like paint tokens and B-spec, and focus more on making the career mode as good as it was in previous iterations (I literally spent years in GT4's career mode), as well as creating an online system that makes sense. Automatic match-making would be great rather than endlessly searching and getting nowhere.

I'll just note that I still play GT5 and I'm enjoying it, so I'm not bashing here, but I'm also not blinded so much by brand loyalty that I refuse to accept the games flaws.

 

[CSLACR]

I hope the game isn't dead, I planned on playing some this weekend. Mini rant, that is such an overused phrase, is blah blah dead. Why is it whenever someone on the internet becomes bored with something or doesn't like it it is dead? Hardcore gaming is dead, motion controls are dead, portable systems are dead, PS3 is dead, XBOX360 is dead, GT5 is dead, it's all dead if you believe forums.

To answer your question is GT5 dead, no, it is not. I was just on and it still works. People are still playing and enjoying the game. They are still updating the Seasonals and OCD on a weekly basis. From the leaked photos of Twin Ring Motegi it seems PD is still updating and adding to it. When the servers shut down, GT6 is released, and the game implodes on itself then you can say it's dead. Until then, I'm going to enjoy what I find to be a very very good game.

Awesome.

 

[tpark103]

Awesome.

Very true we still get our seasonal and online dealership good point. So I would say there is still a pulse. Lol

 

[Alfabob46]

For a lot of people yes,
I believe that many people after years of playing gt 1,2,3 etc and after beating the AI and thinking they were the Stig they got a shock with Gt 5 and online play the realisation that they weren't the Stig and can't win every race and have got bored and moved on.
For people that just play offline and have had this title from launch with no seasonal races I imagine is pretty dead
But for me its truly still Alive !!!
I play at least 3 evenings a week. Mainly with friends online great mixed pp racing or even try some dirty racing lobbys these can be so much fun, it can be like rally cross I have nearly cried with laughter dishing out some harsh moves. I do the time trials seasonal etc when I need to top back up after a spend.
I sometimes do race meetings organised from this forum.
The game is only as dead as the ideas of the player.

 

[tpark103]

For a lot of people yes,
I believe that many people after years of playing gt 1,2,3 etc and after beating the AI and thinking they were the Stig they got a shock with Gt 5 and online play the realisation that they weren't the Stig and can't win every race and have got bored and moved on.
For people that just play offline and have had this title from launch with no seasonal races I imagine is pretty dead
But for me its truly still Alive !!!
I play at least 3 evenings a week. Mainly with friends online great mixed pp racing or even try some dirty racing lobbys these can be so much fun, it can be like rally cross I have nearly cried with laughter dishing out some harsh moves. I do the time trials seasonal etc when I need to top back up after a spend.
I sometimes do race meetings organised from this forum.
The game is only as dead as the ideas of the player.

Nice!!! . Well GT Academy just unlocked round 2 this evening and that has started chest compressions. There is hope that this version has not been forgotten by Kaz as for a DLC that remains to be seen. I like log on 4 out of 5 nights if only for 20 minutes to get in a few laps before a go to bed.