Is it possible to have multiple OS installed at the same time?

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Currently I'm running XP SP2, but I've fallen in love with Apple lately. I installed Safari, and I love it so much more than Firefox. (No, not because of the private browsing option :lol:)

Now, I like the interface of the Mac OS a lot more than XP, and I've for a long time wanted to try out this OS. Is it possible to have both XP and Mac OS installed on my computer at the same time? Will it affect the running speed of my computer? How do I enable a choice where I can choose which OS to run?
 
To run a Mac OS without extensive fiddling you need a Mac computer first. When you've got that then yes, you can install Windows on the Mac too. When the computer boots you can decide which OS you'll use. ask the Mac wizards for more information but yes, it is possible given that you have the skills and the hardware.
 
That is the thing with macs, you need hardware that is modified by them(to install the OS easily). So you are open to try a different OS? I'd recommend a Linux OS such as Ubuntu. You can burn the ISO to a CD and try it without installing the OS(it loads itself on the RAM pretty much).

Though about the main question, yes you can install multiple OS's. When you have installed a secondary OS you can select either one from a menu.
 
Actually its not all that hard making whats known as a 'Hackintosh', just make sure you buy intel CPU's and check you get a suitable mobo and other components. You can then install OSX with some slight modification.

Just have a search around the web, loads of forums have been created here and there on how to do this.

Robin.
 
I thought a few versions of Apples OSs run with Microsoft VPC. I used VPC to run Ubuntu sometimes. No messy fiddling with your actual workings of the PC so its great, only creates two folders so when you change your mind just delete them.
 
To answer you main question, yes. I have done a hackintosh in the past, but later dumped it due to hardware support (ALC888 on board sound). I had two phisical drives, one with vista and one with OSX, I just used my flash drive for swapping files in between OS's.
 
We use vmware for school. It uses virtual machines that run on your pc OS.
As an example, for 1 course last trimester we had a virtual network of 9 virtual machines including different Linux and Windows Servers/Clients, all running on 1 PC.

The best part is that a virtual machine consists of only a couple of files, and you can just copy them to an external disc and take them with you.
Just install vmware on another PC and you can load your previously installed virtual machine.

This is ideal for testing.
 
We use vmware for school. It uses virtual machines that run on your pc OS.
As an example, for 1 course last trimester we had a virtual network of 9 virtual machines including different Linux and Windows Servers/Clients, all running on 1 PC.

The best part is that a virtual machine consists of only a couple of files, and you can just copy them to an external disc and take them with you.
Just install vmware on another PC and you can load your previously installed virtual machine.

This is ideal for testing.

But does a mac OS work on vmware?
 
If you want a good resource for running a hackintosh system I'd take a look at http://www.osx86project.org/ they have a great wiki with install guides and a very helpful forums. However if you really want to run a hackintosh system you do need an osx license (as in you bought a copy of it from apple) if you don't it is illegal to run an osx system.
 
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I believe running OSX on anything but Apple hardware is against the EULA.
 
But surely not when I buy a legal copy of OS X Leopard and then perform a "hackintosh" on my computer?

Oh well, my father is also drooling over he iMacs, so who knows we might get into an Apple computer together :)
 
But surely not when I buy a legal copy of OS X Leopard and then perform a "hackintosh" on my computer?

Oh well, my father is also drooling over he iMacs, so who knows we might get into an Apple computer together :)

Just read the EULA.
 
And the latest macs will run vista, via boot camp, maybe it will run xp, but not too sure. I got a G5 and its so sweet. Not like windows, where you have to re boot once a day. 60 days running is no problem.
 
And the latest macs will run vista, via boot camp, maybe it will run xp, but not too sure. I got a G5 and its so sweet. Not like a very messed up, buggy, malware filled and faulty hardware windows-based machine, where you have to re boot once a day. 60 days running is no problem.

Fixed.
 
While not quite 60 days. I do have to turn it off at some stage. (Or run out of battery in that case). But it's not exactly once a day is it?

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And the latest macs will run vista, via boot camp, maybe it will run xp, but not too sure. I got a G5 and its so sweet. Not like windows, where you have to re boot once a day. 60 days running is no problem.


wat. how is that fixed?

How can you let your computer get to the point where you reboot it everyday? I have ran the same windows install for the last 6 months and only once have I had to restart it and that was due to a power outage. My laptop with vista has been running almost 10 months as a cs server and only last night had I actually turned it off for some updates.
Taking care of your computer goes a long way you know.
 
wat. how is that fixed?

How can you let your computer get to the point where you reboot it everyday? I have ran the same windows install for the last 6 months and only once have I had to restart it and that was due to a power outage. My laptop with vista has been running almost 10 months as a cs server and only last night had I actually turned it off for some updates.
Taking care of your computer goes a long way you know.

That's what I'm saying. It would have to be a horrible Windows installation to need rebooted daily, with some sort of malware or faulty hardware (such as bad memory that causes a crash once the problematic address got used). I only reboot my Vista gaming rig when I'm messing with something or it needs to reboot for a new program or updates. My server only goes off if I need to do similar things, which is way less often. That's a Win Server 2003 machine.
 
I'll go with that. But generally, the macs are more reliable. Less booting, less buggy and more importantly for online, less vulnerable for attacks.

And I do know abit about computers, been building them since 1976. But, I don't know everything, just which I prefer. And if people want to continually pay for new operating systems every 12-18 months no problem for me. I'll stick with leopard.
 
I'll go with that. But generally, the macs are more reliable. Less booting, less buggy and more importantly for online, less vulnerable for attacks.

And I do know abit about computers, been building them since 1976. But, I don't know everything, just which I prefer. And if people want to continually pay for new operating systems every 12-18 months no problem for me. I'll stick with leopard.

So you won't buy Snow Leopard? Seriously, I'm not partial to Windows at all. But you're saying stuff typical of a Mac fanboy. I could leave my computer on for years if I wanted and could avoid rebooting for software, like I already said. Also, XP is over five years old now. I'm wanting to say seven? How long has Leopard been out? Tiger?

Sure, Vista is getting replaced prematurely, but only to cover up the bad image it got. I'm still not entirely sure where that comes from, besides needing about a gig more RAM and a dual core for games. But why wouldn't you have at least 2 gigs of RAM and a dual core now and want the newest OS? I've said it before, Vista got a bad rap from consumer PCs with ~2Ghz Celeron single cores, a gig of RAM at best, and onboard GMA950 video. I know several people with what are now rather basic laptops (Pentium M 1.8 dual-core, 1-3GB RAM, X3100 video) and haven't heard anything bad from them about the OS.

And so you know, I run XP (netbook), Vista Business x64 (gaming PC), Ubuntu 8.10 (gaming PC), and Windows Server 2003 (server). I'm also working on making both the netbook and gaming PC hackintosh's. So don't call me biased.
 
So you won't buy Snow Leopard? Seriously, I'm not partial to Windows at all. But you're saying stuff typical of a Mac fanboy. I could leave my computer on for years if I wanted and could avoid rebooting for software, like I already said. Also, XP is over five years old now. I'm wanting to say seven? How long has Leopard been out? Tiger?

XP was released on the 25th of October 2001. Assuming it was being developed at least in 2000, it's 7-9 years old. Which despite all the knocking Microsoft gets, that's extremely impressive considering computers still ship with it, and it's fundamentally the same operating system which was designed when Pentium II and III where the primary PC processors and IVs were just being introduced. And when you think that it's rumoured that Snow Leopard may only be compatible with Intel-Macs, or Mac's made after Early-2006, I think it makes it even more impressive.

In my profession, I deal with both company and personal PCs and Mac's almost evenly on a daily basis. I get so many personal machines given to me that are just so loaded with crap that they are so slow and buggy I want to just wipe it, and that includes Mac's. The other week someone came to me with a Macbook laptop that had 76GB of files on the desktop screen, 76GB, and would freeze with that coloured spinny wheel for about 3 minutes whenever you wanted to do anything.

A little bit of computer maintenance does wonders, for both PC's and Mac's, if you've got heaps of old files you want to keep but haven't used in a year, just back them on a CD or External Drive, same thing goes for programs, unless you want to be one of those people with 87 programs in your start-up taskbar. Ten minutes of maintenance a week saves you from 15 minute boot up times, constant freezes and faults everyday of the year.
 
I'm not getting into a pissing contest. The question was about 2 os's. If people want to go the hackintosh route, fine. Their money. To me its simpler to go with a mac and boot camp. Nuff said.
 
I'll go with that. But generally, the macs are more reliable. Less booting, less buggy and more importantly for online, less vulnerable for attacks.

The reason why is because macs are not targeted by hackers as much as Windows. Macs are built off of Unix and Apple bought the CUPS(Common UNIX Printing System). Microsoft even bought the DOS(command prompt is what its called today) system from someone else. In a nutshell both companies are the same, they buy some technology off of some person and people think they made it.

From what I know Macs are not good for the AMD either, they require a Intel CPU to make use of software thats made for Intel only.
 
From what I know Macs are not good for the AMD either, they require a Intel CPU to make use of software thats made for Intel only.

From what I recall Macs have never used AMD chips ever. It's easier to make a Hackintosh now with 10.5 and Intel chipping.
 
Basically, Apple won't allow OSX to be sold on any other Platform because then no one would buy their own ridiculously overpriced hardware.
 
You could really try to make a point that any software should be available to be put on anything. I should be allowed to put Windows Mobile 6 or the Blackberry Storm OS on my iPhone (lets please not go there!!!! :nervous: ) What if I want the GPS software from a Tom Tom one my Garmin Nuvi? Its not exactly the same, because these softwares aren't available for purchase on their own.

I've also heard the reasoning that by keeping Mac OS on Apple machines only, it preserves the image that Mac OS has. They know every possible hardware configuration that the operating system may be used on, and can be sure it will work right. If it was available to be installed on PCs, you'd see people complaining about compatibility issues with X component because Apple didn't test one of thousands of possible hardware configurations.

In my opinion, Apple's notebooks are priced relatively well for what you get. There is a premium, but not so much as people like to make it out as. I never argue in favor of the iMac or Mac mini's prices, because they do cost way more than an equivalent PC. You could blame the fact that they use notebook hardware, however, which raises the costs for miniaturization and having most of the components soldered to the board.

Every OS has its benefits, so who cares? I only feel the need to step in when one fanboy wants to talk negatives of a competitor that just do not exist.
 
You could really try to make a point that any software should be available to be put on anything. I should be allowed to put Windows Mobile 6 or the Blackberry Storm OS on my iPhone (lets please not go there!!!! :nervous: ) What if I want the GPS software from a Tom Tom one my Garmin Nuvi? Its not exactly the same, because these softwares aren't available for purchase on their own.

In my opinion, companies should sell their software for individuals to purchase and put on whatever hardware they like. However, they only provide support for hardware they approve of. I'd love to buy a copy of Windows Mobile and try to put it on my phone. Companies should be able to buy a billion copies of OSX and sell it on a machine they've built, but that company must provide support for it. But as you say....

I've also heard the reasoning that by keeping Mac OS on Apple machines only, it preserves the image that Mac OS has.
You're completely right on that point and I agree with you to an extent. But given the reputation/culture both OSX and Apple have built up, I don't think if another company started shipping computers with OSX which sucked and failed completely then it would look bad on Apple or OSX. People would realise that they are getting what they pay for and if they want the 100% OSX experience then they'll buy an offical Apple product.

I guess it's some what similar to VW and Audi, just because the VWs are fundamentally the same car, and do the same thing, with the same hardware, except for a few design changes to suit the buyer. I don't think VW ruins the image of Audi because their cars are cheaper.

They know every possible hardware configuration that the operating system may be used on, and can be sure it will work right. If it was available to be installed on PCs, you'd see people complaining about compatibility issues with X component because Apple didn't test one of thousands of possible hardware configurations.

Agree again. I just think Apple should say, "Go ahead, install OSX on your PCs, but we're not helping you"

In my opinion, Apple's notebooks are priced relatively well for what you get. There is a premium, but not so much as people like to make it out as. I never argue in favor of the iMac or Mac mini's prices, because they do cost way more than an equivalent PC. You could blame the fact that they use notebook hardware, however, which raises the costs for miniaturization and having most of the components soldered to the board.

Yeah the laptops aren't so bad because for the extra outlay, even though you get equal specs to the lower priced PC laptop, you generally are paying for a better build quality and sturdiness, which is important for a laptop. They're still too expensive though.

The main qualm with the desktops I have is the cost of parts and the difficult upgradability, at my work, when we have to replace a Power Supply on a iMac, it costs 8 timesas much as a PC Power Supply, when it's effectively the same thing.

Personally, I think Apple is really missing out with not having a lower priced Netbook with OSX on it. People want OSX on a low-cost machine, which is why you see sooooo many people hacking OSX onto every netbook on the market. It could even be a premium netbook like the Vaio P, but it has to be usable, unlike the Air.
 
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