Lamborghinis 50th anniversary - Veneno (Lambo's fastest car ever!)
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- Horobi-Scorpion
You are totally missing the point of buying high priced supercars. Real life isn't Gran Turismo, where you are chasing some massive car collection ala Pokemon, debating on how far one could stretch a couple mil, or trying to get the fastest lap time on some track against your buddy.
It's about the car itself. This car represents a special occasion for the brand, and a radical styling direction to boot. The incredible power and performance which does indeed outclass all previous models, is a bonus.
This car is special.
And where is this "buy this car, or 2 others" keep coming from? Who said these guys aren't already getting a damn P1 and LaFerrari?
What the hell is wrong with you guys. lol
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Maybe because he doesn't want one of those, let alone both? Maybe because if he was buying a car for exclusivity, one that there is only 3 examples of is a lot more exclusive than one where there will be several hundred of each? Maybe because the existence of those two is irrelevant to the existence of this? Maybe he just likes Lamborghinis and doesn't like Ferraris or McLarens? What difference does it make?
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But still there is nothing special about a different paint extended aventador with a new spoiler with tuned suspensions. Some custom auto shop could do all this for me for less than 3mil. Why didn't they just take the time to make a new car.
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For a car forum, the lack of understanding of why someone wants a car you don't is incredible, here.
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This is just so over the top it's rediculous. I'm kind of liking it though. It's kind of growing on me.
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NO! Just seen the new Ferrari and thought that had too much going on. This is the car that just kept on giving. Again, it looks fast but it looks ugly. At least with this you can say only 2 other people in the world own the same car... which means not many people are exposed to the audacity of this things looks.
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First, I thought it looks like a mix between a Zonda R, Mazda Furai and Aventador. Now I think it looks like a mix between the GTbyCitroen Race Car, Mazda Furai and Countach.
I seriously like it.
EDIT: Just imagine, Gran Turismo, GTbyCitroen Race Car, Furai, Zonda R, McLaren P1, LaFerrari (dat name) and the Veneno racing in Le Mans or the Nordschleife. The photomode pictures... <3
I seriously like it.
EDIT: Just imagine, Gran Turismo, GTbyCitroen Race Car, Furai, Zonda R, McLaren P1, LaFerrari (dat name) and the Veneno racing in Le Mans or the Nordschleife. The photomode pictures... <3
Some people are actually doing good use of them...
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- GTP_Stotty
Now you're arguing the opposite of what you were originally arguing?
The Audi R8, SLS and (to a lesser extent) the F430 are also quite a different ballgame from the big Lamborghinis and Zondas and such. It wasn't until he 458 that Ferrari acknowledged that the V8 Ferraris were no longer entry level.
Yes, I wasnt very clear there
Primarily because I incorrectly (and confusingly) used the term hypercar in my previous post And the other cars are borderline supercars, never mind hypercars my apologies
With the exception of the McLaren F1, Im struggling to think of a previous Hypercar thats made a successful motorsport car.
I do stick by my position that the only use for these cars is either 1) to sit in someones collection or 2) to get driven round Dubai/Moscow/London/Hong Kong/Shanghai etc city centres. Rarely, if ever, do they ever get used in anger on a track, and as road cars they are useless as they have too much performance to ever extend properly.
Ultimately, it remains a very rare medallion for the super rich or a masturbation item for 12 y/o boys.
Yes, I do despise modern Ferraris and Lamborghinis primarily because of the type of customer they are aiming their cars at nowadays. Ferrari does at least have some proper motorsport heritage though, and their recent cars are widely praised by the motoring press.
I cant get the official press release to open, but how Lamborghini choose to spin the Venenos mechanicals and reality will be limited by the $12 million budget they have (plus whatever they chose to swallow in add on costs wrapped up in their total PR budget) which is nothing in car building terms, particularly when they will have needed to invest a huge amount in aero work at least. The tub and subframes are Aventador, the engine is tweaked Aventador (likely well see this in forthcoming upgraded Aventador models), and a wild stab in the dark bets that the suspension is pretty much Aventador too. The interior might have different materials, but its pretty much an Aventador interior.
The only really significant difference is the bodywork which clearly also includes the aero side.
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So only old cars with racing histories are worth anything, in your eyes? So, none of the modern Ferrari's that do actively participate in Motorsports, count? Or the cars that use tech that is derived straight from F1 and other racing?
At this point, I don't even think you have even looked at the car outside of possibly a quick, dismissive glance.
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While most of the dash is the the same (while using completely different materials), the entire center column is different, and same goes for the seats. All that aside, why is that even an issue?
If the price wasn't $4 million, would it matter? $1 million? Or how about $500,00?
What year did you stop liking sports cars? How old are you, btw? Do you play Gran Turismo, knowing your favorite cars won't out perform the 85% of cars the other players use?
Just concerned, is all. lol
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At $4 million it's a publicity gimic without a corresponding level of engineering substance to back up the stupid price... if we're talking substance, a P1/918/La Ferrari (silly name!) would destroy it on performance for a quarter of the price, whilst still offering a very high level of exclusivity. You could buy a Veyron SS for less than half the price of this (though you'd then have a mr blobby car, rather than one that looks like it's been styled in a 12 yo's wet dream).
If the price was under $1 million it might make some sense given the bodywork changes.
If you're that interested...
I'm 45 and I've owned many cars during my 27 years of having a driving license. I currently have a 2012 Citroen DS5 (company car) and a 2000 Porsche 996 (2WD, manual 'box). My 'dream garage' would include, a Singer 911, a 997 GT3RS 4.0 and a FF RR... if I was super rich I'd add a Muira, a 250GT SWB and a Jag D Type and an Escort RS1800.
I do play Gran Turismo, and without trying to sound conceited, I'm quite good at it. I prefer TT's, but I'm not adverse to doing a bit of on-line racing every now and again - preferably in something MR (an NSX for example) or FR, on comfort tyres.
I hope this reassures you that I do actually like (love) cars
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Well you'd be wrong on that, as use isn't actually determined by what the car is used for (at least in this case).
Any of the car mentioned could be used as a track car. Just because some aren't used for that and sit in garages doesn't mean a thing.
As for this car, the aerodynamics and weight (Almost 1000 lbs less than the Aventador according to one of the links in this thread, though I'm not sure how credible) could make it worlds apart from any other Lamborghini.
I'm actually worried about Pagani. The Huayra is not only ugly, but it's heavier than the Zonda. Weight is a sin when it comes to performance cars.
