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[sny_pher]

Hi all,

Great thread! Just slightly off topic...I've heard the terms "technical circuit" being tossed around on the forums, and in other racing websites.

I get a sense that a "technical" circuit is something like Fuji speedway, the Abu Dhabi F1 circuit, Nurbergring GP circuit etc, while "flowing" circuits are like Spa, Suzuka etc.

What, then, is exactly the difference between a "technical" and "flowing" circuit? My sense is that technical circuits are more "limited" in the ways you can take corners, and that the corners, for some reason, are less enjoyable.

On topic, I dislike the whole of the Fuji circuit, the Daytona course, and the last chicane of the Grand Valley circuit.

 

[zedextreme8177]

I hate the first 2 corners of the Nurburgring 24 hours circuit, either I end up missing the braking point, or missing the 2 apexes

This followed by the whole Fuji circuit, why didn't PD include the 90's version?

 

[ArmaxDylan]

The first one in the daytona road course for sure
and the chicanes in Le Sarthe
👎

 

[U700]

I think the name for the corner is Breidscheid (The Ring)...I always miss the apex...always

 

[Thomas2012]

First corner of Laguna Seca, Gets me every single time .

Really

1. the follow trough at the top gear test track , i just can't get the right apex there
2. the second to last lefthand corner at tokyo R246 (under the expresway)
much to tight

These are easy whats all the fuss about half the tracks or turns hear are easy its YOU not the car

every corner on deep forest except the first and last turns. Especially the turn that sends me crashing into that damn mountain every time no matter what car i'm driving, no matter how fast or slow i'm driving it!

Special stage route 5 is full of bad turns too.

All of trial mountain!

easy

 

[YellowG1]

Hi all,

Great thread! Just slightly off topic...I've heard the terms "technical circuit" being tossed around on the forums, and in other racing websites.

I get a sense that a "technical" circuit is something like Fuji speedway, the Abu Dhabi F1 circuit, Nurbergring GP circuit etc, while "flowing" circuits are like Spa, Suzuka etc.

What, then, is exactly the difference between a "technical" and "flowing" circuit? My sense is that technical circuits are more "limited" in the ways you can take corners, and that the corners, for some reason, are less enjoyable.

On topic, I dislike the whole of the Fuji circuit, the Daytona course, and the last chicane of the Grand Valley circuit.

Technical (to me) means a course that combines both very fast and also very tight turns. An example off the top of my hand would be the old Hockenheim before it got ruined since you had very long straights but you also had the pretty slow stadium section. I'd maybe put Turkey and Shanghai in here too. On the opposite end, Monza or Assen are courses to me that are really flowing.

 

[MOTORTRENDmitch]

im seeing trends here

 

[vetteman24]

tetre rouge at le mans if you mess up it screws you on the straght

 

[RacecarBMW]

Schwedenkreuz at Nurburgring.

It drives me crazy I have to slow down a lot to take it and it's extremely hard to recover if you slip. It's the mix of bump that sets the suspension off then a left turn at around 190 km/h, things can get ugly there especially if your in a pack.

 

[Greisen]

To me it seems that some people have misunderstood the difference challenging and worst.

I think that the corkscrew at Laguna is the most challenging and toughest corners ever made. It is almost impossible to get it right.

I dont know what is the worst corner in the game, pretty difficult to say. Just take all the corners like a man and it will be no problem

 

[peter_vod69]

Just take all the corners like a man and it will be no problem

What, sideways?

 

[johnniesimpson]

Most turns at nur after any straightaway at super high speeds. There are a few. Those straightaways that include a slight turn always make me spin out. I'm trying to do the GT Championship with a fully-suped Nissan GT-R, which holds its grip very well on every other track, but I still screw up at nur.

Daytona Road turn 1, I agree as well.

 

[Mugo]

there are a couple of corners that feel really awkward to me:

1. Left hand corner at Trial Mountain before the pit entrance, I always go too wide

2. Last corner at Rome Circuit. It's kind of a double apex, I can nail the entry, but always try to exit too fast and hit the barrier, ruining my speed for the straight

3. last corner at Suzuka East Course

 

[MOTORTRENDmitch]

Schwedenkreuz at Nurburgring.

It drives me crazy I have to slow down a lot to take it and it's extremely hard to recover if you slip. It's the mix of bump that sets the suspension off then a left turn at around 190 km/h, things can get ugly there especially if your in a pack.

oh tell me about it... >.>

 

[Matthias N]

I hate all those wanky pointless corners around the start/finish section of le Sarthre because they seem to have just been arbitrarily slapped onto a big flat plain with little rhyme or reason. It's like playing an old Mode 7 racing game on the SNES. I don't like the Top Gear track for much the same reason (in fact I've driven it exactly twice in the nine months I've owned the game).

edit: also it occurs to me a lot of you fine folks freak out about double apex corners like turn one at Laguna Seca and the last turn on Tokyo R246. Just picture the track layout in your mind and draw a single curve through there hitting both apexes (apexii?), it's not hard at all once you get the hang of it! Well actually turn one at Laguna is still pretty awkward because it's a double apex but for some reason there's a kerb just chilling in the middle of nowhere you have to learn to ignore.

 

[MOTORTRENDmitch]

i actualy love the beginning of sarthe

 

[blah blah blah]

carousel- the Ring. I almost never get it right and the back end decides it wants to lead

BS, and I'm not aiming it to you in particular, I knew I would see complaints about this corner but I think It's a pretty easy corner. You should Stay on the darker grey part of the road and 'Creep' around it.

 

[Turtle]

I hate the first corner of TGTT (the long sweeping one, not the slow 2nd corner), I understeer it EVERY SINGLE TIME. So annoying. Any advice?

 

[Tonkz]

I think its called galgenkopf or something similar, the last turn before you get onto the long straight on the ring. For some reason I can not judge it and often end up making friends with the grass and/or wall.

I'm with him 👍

1st corner on the Daytona Road track does suck too... TRAAAACTION...
1st corner at Monaco 4 me for another reason... I never attack it as hard as i should

 

[Matthias N]

BS, and I'm not aiming it to you in particular, I knew I would see complaints about this corner but I think It's a pretty easy corner. You should Stay on the darker grey part of the road and 'Creep' around it.

Well yes, any corner is easy if you ignore the line and drive 'round it like a little old lady. Actually running the fast line over the banking can be pretty darn tricky, especially if you're not too comfortable with your car. When I spin out it's usually about 3/4ths trough where the banking starts to flatten out and you start to feel the car push to the outside. So you put some more lock on the wheel to the inside of the corner, but because your left side is still very much running on banked surface while the right is already returning to flat there's a hell of a lot of weight on the inner side meaning your small adjustment ends wildly veering the car inwards aaaand spinning it out.
If you decide to be a bad mother of a stoic instead and don't correct a slightly too wide turn you end up running diagonally across the rim of the bank before it levels out, which is slightly safer but still quite the butt-clencher as again all sorts of weird and horrible things happen to your suspension.

I fully agree that people who complain about Carousel are out of their minds though, it's an amazing corner because it's so tough.

 

[peter_vod69]

also it occurs to me a lot of you fine folks freak out about double apex corners like turn one at Laguna Seca and the last turn on Tokyo R246. Just picture the track layout in your mind and draw a single curve through there hitting both apexes (apexii?), it's not hard at all once you get the hang of it! Well actually turn one at Laguna is still pretty awkward because it's a double apex but for some reason there's a kerb just chilling in the middle of nowhere you have to learn to ignore.

You'll be faster out of the first corner at Laguna if you just stay wide and apex the second part of the corner later (and straighter).

 

[opelman]

The first braking in Grand Valley Speedway. I don't get it. It goes almost everytime on the sand. I lost control in braking in the corner.

 

[DriftingDonuts]

4th corner at Laguna Seca.

That corners give you the image of entering it fast, but why the time you realize you can't you either lock up or understeer very wide into the gravel trap..

I mostly lock up alot on that corner! ):<

 

[H0urg1ass]

The corkscrew at Laguna Seca kills me every time which makes the endurance race on that track a headache for me.

But even that corner isn't halfway as annoying as the first few sharp turns in Nurburgring, especially on the Gran Turismo All Stars series. Anything over 650HP on that track is just a nightmare to keep on the tarmac.

 

[FuSiioN_HaVoC]

All of the Cape Ring which i hate so much

 

[JrDarknes]

The corkscrew at Laguna Seca kills me every time which makes the endurance race on that track a headache for me.

But even that corner isn't halfway as annoying as the first few sharp turns in Nurburgring, especially on the Gran Turismo All Stars series. Anything over 650HP on that track is just a nightmare to keep on the tarmac.

Yes oh my god. I always spin out right there. (Laguna Seca)

 

[drdonutman]

I hate the first corner of TGTT (the long sweeping one, not the slow 2nd corner), I understeer it EVERY SINGLE TIME. So annoying. Any advice?

Brake early before the turn not while turning.

 

[blah blah blah]

Well yes, any corner is easy if you ignore the line and drive 'round it like a little old lady. Actually running the fast line over the banking can be pretty darn tricky, especially if you're not too comfortable with your car. When I spin out it's usually about 3/4ths trough where the banking starts to flatten out and you start to feel the car push to the outside. So you put some more lock on the wheel to the inside of the corner, but because your left side is still very much running on banked surface while the right is already returning to flat there's a hell of a lot of weight on the inner side meaning your small adjustment ends wildly veering the car inwards aaaand spinning it out.
If you decide to be a bad mother of a stoic instead and don't correct a slightly too wide turn you end up running diagonally across the rim of the bank before it levels out, which is slightly safer but still quite the butt-clencher as again all sorts of weird and horrible things happen to your suspension.

I fully agree that people who complain about Carousel are out of their minds though, it's an amazing corner because it's so tough.

Fair enough, but I like it because I always either get a better lead or regain it. Online or AI.

 

[Thomas2012]

Most of the tracks here are easy
Im hearing laguna seca alot and ive never stuffed it at that track honelstly its from GT3 and you still havent mastered it and la sarthe is one of the most easy tracks ever and tokoyo ive even see AI crash at last corner but its easy the only track im not so good at is nurburgring but i know its just me not the track
START LEARNING
Only real racers get it right

 

[peter_vod69]

Only real racers get it right

And they'll tell you it doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, WINNING IS WINNING!