Lemons to Le Mans Tuesday Series

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Nice pics! I'd still love to see Huylers cockpit view of my "unexpected visit" above.

If I had the replay saved, I'd do it myself :P

Dabneys volvo looks like a hearse in the B&W.

Yeah, I saw the battle scars on dabney's wagon and knew I needed to capture it. I started applying filters for fun and fell in love with the extreme monocrome look.

Dark, moody and a dash of "Hot Topic".
 
Dikarika
Yet another photo post from the unofficial series photographer:

You can be the official. A picture that I keep meaning to take is the entire field, maybe huddle in the first corner at Tsukuba or first chicane at Monza.
 
Craziness for Chuyler and Pyxen:

Nice pics! I'd still love to see Huylers cockpit view of my "unexpected visit" above.

Picture a deer jumping out of the woods in front of you...except the deer weighs 1400 kilos!
 
You can be the official. A picture that I keep meaning to take is the entire field, maybe huddle in the first corner at Tsukuba or first chicane at Monza.


I checked the corner at Tsukuba, but wasn't happy with the result. I'll check back at GVE and ahead at Monza to get that shot.
 
It's tough to get everyone in the shot. I tried the other day with the Wednesday group.
 
40 laps on Tuesday.
 
Just got at 2:14.9xx in my Primera. The tires won't last very long running laps like that though.
 
I was able to test on Monza today. I've heard a few different reports of lap times, ranging from 2:09 to 2:18. We'll see how it goes.

I do want to stress, please, please, please, don't cut the chicanes!

The first chicane has enough walls that it doesn't have a lot of room to cut. The essess have sand traps, so if you cut them too much, you'll get slowed down. What I'm really worried about is the second chicane. It is very easy to cut that.

Don't! Two tires on black. You really should not touch the blue.
 
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I think I was running 2'18s today...but can't remember for sure. Might have been 2'16s..
 
I will be back in town tomorrow. Things that I have not gotten:

Parts list for the second race from Cujo.
Car sharing after the second race from Cujo.
Car sharing after the second race from SLC.
 
On Chicane cutting...if it is done intentionally, points will be deducted at the end of the race.

You need two tires no deeper than the first rumble strip. If you put all 4 on the concrete inside the rumble strip, that is cutting it. This rule applies for every part of the track, not just the second chicane. If you cut the entry to the esses along the back part of the track it is just as bad as cutting that second chicane...actually, id say it is worse because you can gain a good second or two on you lap time.

Watch this video. If you are Using any more of the track on any turn than schumaker on every lap...you will have points deducted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AguTkMmKXE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

If you screw up once or twice thats ok...but dont make a habit of it.
 
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Just a thought but I'd say that using it for an over take should carry penalty as well.
Just an idea.
 
Yes, i was just adding in the wednesday thread that cutting the chicane to overtake will cost you 2 points for each offense. Repeat chicane cutters should get no points for the race...so watch the video closely.
 
Watching Schumacher, I don't feel so bad.

On the first chicane, he puts all four tires on the red and whites on the right hander. He has an F1 car, so he avoids the speed bump on the left hander and keeps two wheels on the black.

On the second chicane, he puts all four on the red and whites. He stays off the blue.

He keeps two tires on the black during the first left hander in the esses and all four tires on the black through the rest of the esses.

The two parts that I find myself cutting a little and am trying not to (but feel less bad about after watching Schumacher) is the left hander into the second chicane and the left hander leaving the esses. But, I stay on the red and whites, so I don't feel so bad.

When I log in on Tuesday, after I practice a bit, I'll probably park my car on the blue square in the second chicane. If you hit me, then that would've been a 2 point penalty in the race.

Now, what happens if you mess up the corner and accidentally cut things? I recommend you stop and then go. Basically, if you penalize yourself to keep your lap time on par with your others, and you don't gain a position, and you don't do it too often, then we won't penalize you.
 
Now, what happens if you mess up the corner and accidentally cut things? I recommend you stop and then go. Basically, if you penalize yourself to keep your lap time on par with your others, and you don't gain a position, and you don't do it too often, then we won't penalize you.


Stopping completely in a race with heavy damage seems to be asking for trouble... Unexpected stops in front of other racers could be disastrous. :scared:

We're just going to need to police each other (and ourselves) as best as we can. If need be, send a PM to Vol if you see a repeat offender to have penalties assessed. If it is accidental (and infrequent) it should show in the replay. By showing remorse (getting off the gas), you should reduce any advantage the cut would have gained you.

But dead stop? That seems like a bad idea to me.
 
I dont recommend a dead stop...just wait to hit the throttle so you dont get an improved lap time out of it.

Yes Schumaker puts the outside tires on the red/white rumble strips. This is OK. Putting the outside tires inside the red/white rumble strips is considered cutting it. Schumaker's lap is consistent with GTP OLR...but he runs a very precise line and pushes the limit of what is legal. If you Have trouble with consistency, id suggest practicing a line that gives you some margin for error...especially as tires wear down. Remember, exit speed is far more important than getting the perfect braking point. You might lose 1-2 10ths by braking early, but you will gain 5-6 10ths by getting your exit perfect.
 
Bad news
I have to work Tuesday till 11:00 pm
Sorry I can make it.
Have Fun
 
Hey Guys I'm going to have to drop the Tuesday series, 2 nights a week is to much to of a commitment for me at this point. I will keep running the Wednesday.
Have fun and good luck to all.
 
I'll send you parts list later on Garris, my internet is finally fixed.
 
I was able to test on Monza today. I've heard a few different reports of lap times, ranging from 2:09 to 2:18. We'll see how it goes.

Really?

Thus far I'm hitting 2:25... i need to tweak something, and fast.

My 2,500 was spent on Stage 1 Engine upgrade, BTW. It was the best upgrade I could get with the money I had. Seems like its too little for the speed needed though.
 
Really?

Thus far I'm hitting 2:25... i need to tweak something, and fast.
I'm only hitting 2:20-2:21 and i had a little more to spend than you after last week's race. The people hitting faster times most likely didnt finish well the last two races. I think i can draft my way to a 2:17-2:18 but if some is running faster than that they will easily pull away from me.

The goal for the slower cars is consistency and tire conservation. You wont have a chance at first but you might be able to capitalize on other driver's mistakes. Thats how i pulled off a 5th place finish last week with only 375pp.
 
I'm only hitting 2:20-2:21 and i had a little more to spend than you after last week's race. The people hitting faster times most likely didnt finish well the last two races. I think i can draft my way to a 2:17-2:18 but if some is running faster than that they will easily pull away from me.

The goal for the slower cars is consistency and tire conservation. You wont have a chance at first but you might be able to capitalize on other driver's mistakes. Thats how i pulled off a 5th place finish last week with only 375pp.


Yeah, I figure the folks behind me last race will be screeching by this this race. Maybe I can adjust my differential to try to get power down quicker. It will tear up my tires though. Maybe I just need to drive smooth and try a one (or zero!) stop race.

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I'm down to 2:22 after some practice with my nephew. Maybe consistent laps will net me a mid-range position and some much needed points. I'm barely touching 5th gear though, so drafting should help a bit also.
 
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I think I really tweaked my car nicely..running 2'14s easy online, and 2'11s in practice.

Why would it be different?

This week I think my downfall may be that I'll have been at a real track all day riding motorcycles... hopefully I can stay awake to do the race! :P If I can, I might not get much cash this week..
 
My car was shared for several days.... I'll share it again. I've only made one small upgrade so far.....
 
Hey Guys I'm going to have to drop the Tuesday series, 2 nights a week is to much to of a commitment for me at this point. I will keep running the Wednesday.
Have fun and good luck to all.

That is a shame. We will miss you on Tuesdays.

Really?

Thus far I'm hitting 2:25... i need to tweak something, and fast.

My 2,500 was spent on Stage 1 Engine upgrade, BTW. It was the best upgrade I could get with the money I had. Seems like its too little for the speed needed though.

Wow. Well, I hadn't heard from everybody. I was hoping the field would get tighter as the season went along, but I guess this is our first high speed course.

I agree with Huyler. Be consistent. I haven't done any tire tests, yet. I've been able to put down 1:11s consistently (and the occasional 1:10), but I don't know that I can make a one stop race. I may not risk it for fear of having a wreck.


I think I really tweaked my car nicely..running 2'14s easy online, and 2'11s in practice.

Why would it be different?

The grip physics are different in A-spec practice. I only ever practice online for that very reason.

My car was shared for several days.... I'll share it again. I've only made one small upgrade so far.....

I'll check it tonight. Please, send me parts lists.
 
Wow. Well, I hadn't heard from everybody. I was hoping the field would get tighter as the season went along, but I guess this is our first high speed course.

I agree with Huyler. Be consistent. I haven't done any tire tests, yet. I've been able to put down 1:11s consistently (and the occasional 1:10), but I don't know that I can make a one stop race. I may not risk it for fear of having a wreck.

Just as info, coming in to this week I'm at exactly 400pp. Honestly, considering my finishes (7th and 3rd) I'm probably about where I should be. I did take a gamble and put 7500 down on an adjustable LSD instead of "moar powr!", so its all on me.

I'll just try for consistency, and attempt to place as high as I can with what I got. If that all fails, at least I'll get a big chunk of change for next week. :sly:
 
Ill send part list tonight. It'll be kinda late though. As a few folks know my ps3 is at my moms house as I don't have WiFi or cable or really anything that costs money at my apartment..... (The rents too damn high!!!) I'll be able to run decent laps with a partner to bump draft back and fourth with. My laps times will have me in 6-7 I think, however my car is loose so it'll be an adventure.
 
Just as info, coming in to this week I'm at exactly 400pp. Honestly, considering my finishes (7th and 3rd) I'm probably about where I should be. I did take a gamble and put 7500 down on an adjustable LSD instead of "moar powr!", so its all on me.:

I honestly shouldn't have as much power as I do. I should've finished much better last week and gotten much less money.

Hopefully this week will balance things out and next week will be closer.
 
I honestly shouldn't have as much power as I do. I should've finished much better last week and gotten much less money.

Hopefully this week will balance things out and next week will be closer.

What kind of lap times are you running?
 
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