Lemons to Le Mans Tuesday Series

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A couple points:

If we have another lag wreck at the beginning, let me know if you take damage. I don't mind restarting the race. I looked at the replay from last week, Dabneyd was totaled by Geezer. Speak up, and we'll restart.

Remember, if you can't pass cleanly, wait! We have 75 laps. Several of us start wide on the hairpins and turn in. A reminder of the OLR:

Hopefully everyone reads and understands this.
 
I can't be the only one who is excited about tonights race. Anything could happen, been looking forward to it for a week.

Same.

FWD is all about knowing how to drive it.
 
This looks like it could have been promising. Too bad I couldn't make it.
 
I'm in my lounge, though I'll be a little AFK. I'll see everyone in less than two hours.

The physics are messed up or something. Maybe I had the wrong tires in practice. My first 9 laps were all mid 1:09s with the exception of a high 1:08. Laps 10-15 crept up through the 1:10s, and laps 15-20 were into the 1:12s.

And this was all with me trying not to burn the tires.
 
Reload the track. For some reason the first track that loads in a private lobby has a messed up tire model.
 
Reload the track. For some reason the first track that loads in a private lobby has a messed up tire model.

This is with the second track. The odd thing is, these aren't lap times that I haven't done before, I've just never done them so reliably. I'm anxious to see if I can keep that up.

*takes a deep breath* Relax.

I will reload the track at 9:30 so everyone can do qualifying. I'm okay losing my 1:08.8.

p.s. There are reports of people that can't get onto PSN! I hope everything clears up.
 
I'll be in soon!
 
I got dropped at lap 65!! Frak! I was *just* about to overtake Cujo too....would have been sweet. ;)

my car is shared, btw..
 
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Okay, I have to say, I'm extremely pissed about that race. I'll get into that later, for anyone that wants to read my long post.

The results:

SLC_VR6_V-Dub
miata_1
Dikarika
snoopykuan
chuyler1
Cujo940
sl3ightaru
dabneyd
GeezerG123
a_garris
diabolicwyvern
MNLumberjack

Diabolic stopped to avoid placing too high. I say that goes against the spirit of things. I say no cash for him. Since I also stopped to keep him from doing that, no cash for me (well, definitely no more than 25,000, which is what I would've gotten in ninth. and for that mater, i don't mind giving more cash to dabneyd and Geezer, since they passed us and wouldn't've normally).

Pyxen was in seventh when he dropped. We can award him seventh, as we did BTK last race. The question is, does anyone from seventh down think they might've caught him?

These rules will have to change for next season. In addition to that, we will have to award penalties. And a lot of them.

The race started fantastically. I don't know if the starting grid was accurate. I was in third, though. The driver ahead of me was AFK, though. So I bumped him as I started. My damage was minor, so I went with it. I was hanging with a pack, and it was fun. But Dabneyd was dropped, so we restarted. Again, need to fine tune those rules.

On the race restart, I start further back in the pack. That is no biggie, but I'm stuffed in the first few turns. And this damage is noticeable. I haven't looked at the replay, but I think it was Dabneyd. Oh, the effing irony.

I thought maybe I could drive with it, but it has other ideas, and I veer into the pit wall. I was alongside Huyler. I do hope I didn't hit him.

I was not expecting to do well at this point. I find a way to stretch my tires and only make two more pit stops. I had no accidents. No beach vacations, and only cut the grass once or twice. Some how, I get all the way up to eighth, and I as I am passing Sleight (which, I admit, was a stupid pass on my part), I catch the grass and all I can do is wait until my car stops. It stops in a wall, totaled.

Even with starting in the back (45 seconds off my own pace by my second lap), I could've had seventh!! I don't know what I'm more upset about, being stuffed at the beginning, or taking myself out at the end.

And with a seventh place finish here! Wow. My car is very fast in the straights. It should've shined at Monza. And I've spent hours at Monza. Blah.

p.s. Share your cars.
 
I was quite surprised when you came flying past me garris :lol:. No harm done on my end.

I was running behind Pyxen and I know 100% that I would not have caught him. He should get 7th.

I pit with 14 laps to go in order to throw some fast consistent laps down at the end and ensure I didn't put the car in the sand again. I guessed the gap correctly and ended up not losing any positions by pitting, which allowed me to finish the race much more relaxed on the new tires. I'm very happy with where I finished.

It looked there was bumping and banging in the beginning. I wasn't involved in anything and nothing really stood out to me so I can't really comment.

Initially I was a bit pissed at Cujo but I understand that his car is a bitch to drive, especially on cold tires, and we run totally different lines. No hard feelings, good racing later on. Held you up as long as I could :lol:
 
I had a fun, albeit long, race. Got a headache halfway into the race and kind of wanted to quit. The first start I got damage from avoiding V Dub's car so I was happy for the restart even though I did not ask for it.

The 2nd start I was damage free and was enjoying the battle between Cujo/Sleight/Pyxen (in the green car). Cujo's car was scary--it would fishtail almost every turn. Very entertaining at least.

Opted for a 2 pit stop strategy, which I like better. My lap time would slow by an average of 1 second per 10 laps of tires, so I would have been much slower on a 1 stop strategy. After my first stop, I was desperate to get past the 1 stop cars who had not stopped, because I had to put in some fast times to get ahead.

At the end, I was catching up to Dikarika as he was cruising to the end, but that gave me something to shoot for. Not one of my favorite tracks--Monza and la Sarthe I like more.

I will miss next week's race. Have fun at Monza.
 
crap, my neighbor called me over to check out his new car and i totally forgot about the race. I thought it was Monday all day yesterday haha
 
Pyxen was in seventh when he dropped. We can award him seventh, as we did BTK last race. The question is, does anyone from seventh down think they might've caught him?

I'm not actually sure how I caught geezer at the end of the race in that slow ass car.

But Dabneyd was dropped, so we restarted. Again, need to fine tune those rules.

That is something I'm going to have to look out for before a race starts. I could see that everyone was in the lobby, but after the switch to London, and then back to Tsukuba, it seemed like there were a few drivers that got stuck loading the track, especially MNLumberjack; I don't think I saw him in the race at all.

On the race restart, I start further back in the pack. That is no biggie, but I'm stuffed in the first few turns. And this damage is noticeable. I haven't looked at the replay, but I think it was Dabneyd. Oh, the effing irony.

I've watched the replay, but I'm not sure how that collision occurred. As we are coming into the hairpin, I got behind you, and then it looks like your car jumps forward.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McsbdHOM_3Y

I don't think I was accelerating there. I also got into Snoopy around lap 47. He was lapping me and trying to pass me at the same turn, I went low and caught the dirt and slid up into him. That was totally my fault.

As for the final placement, I don't care one way or the other, but 30k would be nice.
 
I've watched the replay, but I'm not sure how that collision occurred. As we are coming into the hairpin, I got behind you, and then it looks like your car jumps forward.

From my seat in the race, I jumped forward when I was hit from behind. I forgot that I was bumped into Huyler's door. I do hope he didn't take damage from that. I had damage on two corners.

I don't know how the GT5 engine works, but this could be a case where our two clients were out of sync. My client processed your car as being closer to me than yours did. I really don't know how much of GT5 is distributed and how much is centralized.

Something else I was thinking of: even starting in the back, I got my way up to seventh. I wrecked, and sent myself to the back of the pack. If had started further up, how much further up would I have finished? To me, the cash is meant to be a parity device. It is meant to make the field run closer. My car was fast enough to get up to seventh, if not better. I don't need 11th place cash to stay competitive. So I was thinking (for the next iteration), should points be awarded on position, but cash be allotted on fastest lap?
 
My race report...

The first start, I was fine...but it was clear that garris was going to run similar laps as me by flying down the straights and running extremely slow through the turns. I was leaving plenty of space in hopes he would get a rhythm going and disappear.

Second start, I was again placed near garris. On the second hairpin, it must have been lag because I got hit hard in the left rear corner literally out of nowhere. dabney posted his view. Here is my view...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXkgP8sQjII It must be lag because although garris had power...his car moved way too fast for that to be a driver mistake. At the end of the straight I was afraid for my life when he came up the inside...his accidental pit was probably what saved me.

Laps 2-7, I was keeping on the tail of a group of faster cars including Cujo. Pyxen was in the group too but beached his car on the final turn. On lap 7, in his effort to catch back up, he went flying across the nose of my car in the final hairpin. It scared the crap out of me like an effing deer jumping out of the woods. Gave me significant suspension damage which slowed me down about .7 to 1.2 seconds per lap. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRNA2aodFKk

Lap 34, Snoopy caught up to me after making his first pit stop. I slowed him down for a lap or 2 then I drafted him for a few laps. I might have been able to keep pace if I wasn't on bald tires with damage on 2 corners.

Lap 37, I took my only pit stop. When I came out, I was right behind Cujo and Sl3ight who were battling neck and neck.

Laps 38-50ish, Cujo eventually got around Sl3ight and pulled away enough to take the draft away from sl3ight. I was content with following sl3ight for several laps but I could tell his tires were wearing down as he drifted further and further wide through the hairpins. Once the lap times got below what I could run safely on my own I started making some moves. I made a turn 1 pass and held on until the straight but he was close enough to draft pass. A few laps later I tried it again and made sure I was precise on my entrance and exit speeds to each of the infield corners. I pulled enough gap that he couldn't complete the pass at the end of the straight. I nailed the final turn at my target speed and by turn 1 of the next lap my gap was big enough to prevent him from drafting.

Laps 50-60, Cujo was burning up his tires and I was slowly nibbling at the gap between us. I caught up but it would take a significant mistake by him for me to pull away. I think he went wide on turn 1 and that's how I pulled away from him.

Laps 60-75, I ran into some lap traffic that I thought might have been snoopy but each time it was someone else. I tried my best to put down quick laps but by about lap 75 I was just content with a 5th place finish.

Conclusion:
Tires played a huge role in my finish. I stuck it out with the damage in an effort not to lose any positions. The second part of the race, I ran consistent mid 1:10-1:11 laps and kept my tires cool. That was all I needed to get around a few faster cars.

I might have been able to run alongside snoopy had I avoided damage...but i would have been stealing his draft to do so. I think we finished around 30-40 seconds apart...which is close to the time I lost due to damage...but of course if I were on his tail he might not have gone with a 2 pit strategy which would have stretched that gap by another 30 seconds.
 
From my seat in the race, I jumped forward when I was hit from behind. I forgot that I was bumped into Huyler's door. I do hope he didn't take damage from that. I had damage on two corners.

I don't know how the GT5 engine works, but this could be a case where our two clients were out of sync. My client processed your car as being closer to me than yours did. I really don't know how much of GT5 is distributed and how much is centralized.

I was wondering the same thing. I don't think the connection issues were on my end, but I may be wrong. Like I said, everything was (seemingly) cool until the track change. I guess we'll see what conditions are like tonight when chuyler1 is hosting. Btw, what kind of interweb connection do you have, Vol?
 
At the end of the straight I was afraid for my life when he came up the inside...his accidental pit was probably what saved me.

Sorry to scare you. I told myself all before the race that I was going to fall inline and not use that turn to pass. But then I found myself trying to use it more than once.

But, under the combination of braking and slight turning to get around you and into the turn, my car went crazy. To keep from taking you out, I let it go into the wall.

Something unrelated, but that I had forgotten about. This wasn't evil bad, but this was... impolite in the way that racing drivers are supposed to be impolite I imagine.

Twice, I found myself holding off Pyxen. He could put in a faster lap time than me, but I was faster on the straights. As in practice, I know I have to stay on the inside of every hairpin and make him go wide to pass me. I have to keep him off in the corners so I can put a little distance on the straight.

And twice, the two of us came up on Lumberjack while doing this. And while I was giving Lumberjack space as I passed him, Pyxen would slip in between Lumberjack and me and pass me.

No one is at fault, but... argh, that was annoying. Particularly in my ill mood.

Btw, what kind of interweb connection do you have, Vol?

Bog standard cable modem, with ethernet-over-power to connect the PS3 to the hub. Oh well, I'll get over it, I guess. Even with that incident, it is my fault I didn't get seventh.
 
Nice report, chuyler. Did not realize you had damage. On the penultimate lap, I ran wide on the final corner and went into the sand. I cruised around the last lap so lost a lot of time. I was trying real hard to catch up to Dikarika. I think my 2 stops would still beat a 1 stop race.

My second set of tires were real good. I was running mid 1:09 to low 1:10 for almost the entire 25 laps.

After my first pit stop, I was desperate to get around you because I realized you were on a 1 stop and I had to build a gap for my 2nd stop. I was not sure what the gap was but luckily when I came out of my second pit I was all alone.

Good race with the 375 PP MR2. I had 404 PP. What was the winning Miata's PP?

Garris, let's let this season play out and then figure out the payoff. Maybe you can have a sliding scale of credits so that the later races are not worth as much. I like the way things are now though--if someone wants to get 10 place, that's his choice.
 
Dabney, I did not have any connection issues last night and we are pretty close geographically. You may want to check your Ping as I have read that latency matters more than up/down-load speed.

I also turn off all my devices that use the internet, when I am on GT5.
 
My race report. Cujo car good, Cujo tires bad. I really felt I could've stayed ahead of Chuyler but as stated earlier the different racing lines for myself and Sl3ight meant getting around him took about ten laps, Roasting my tires in the process, which meant I didnt have enough to Stick to the MR2 when it got to me.
I originally wanted a 2-3 stop race but missed when snoopy pitted, leaving me without a racing partner. I settled on one stop about midway through the race and did my best wrestling the car.

I feel the field will be very level at Monza. I know the skyline will be fast, one car I'm fearing is garris's Talon. The top end power from improvements will jump significantly (at least if I was tuning it)

Once again I'm really looking forward to next week. Hopefully I'll be testing tonight.
 
Double posting like a fool....

I realize my car was quite scary but highly entertaining at the same time. Its a good training car for throttle control. Would really like to drive that green Infiniti. It was nearly as fast as my skyline on the straights
 
Bog standard cable modem, with ethernet-over-power to connect the PS3 to the hub.

Ah, nothing quite like sharing bandwidth with your neighbors.

Dabney, I did not have any connection issues last night and we are pretty close geographically. You may want to check your Ping as I have read that latency matters more than up/down-load speed.

I also turn off all my devices that use the internet, when I am on GT5.

I do the same thing, I even had rebooted my router and the switch that the PS3 is connected to. I also asked my roommate to check speedtest.net before the restart and we were getting just under 25 up and down with a 7ms ping.

Anyway, we'll see what happens tonight.
 
My second set of tires were real good. I was running mid 1:09 to low 1:10 for almost the entire 25 laps.

After my first pit stop, I was desperate to get around you because I realized you were on a 1 stop and I had to build a gap for my 2nd stop. I was not sure what the gap was but luckily when I came out of my second pit I was all alone.

Good race with the 375 PP MR2. I had 404 PP. What was the winning Miata's PP?

Garris, let's let this season play out and then figure out the payoff. Maybe you can have a sliding scale of credits so that the later races are not worth as much. I like the way things are now though--if someone wants to get 10 place, that's his choice.
I might have been able to hang with your draft a bit longer without the damage. I'm actually surprised i kept up with you for a few laps with it. It cost me about 3-4 mph through the final turn and that's where you finally pulled away from me. With the damage i ran high 1:11s. Without damage and no draft my best was 1:10.2xx. It would have been closer had i avoided damage, but you should have still been able to beat me by 10-20 seconds in the final stages of the race. I never once ran a 1:09, even with the draft.
 
I'd like to thank chuyler (for the concept?) and a_garris for their work on this series. Now that my car has had what I suspect was it's finest moment I look forward to the battles to come.

After watching the replay I now believe SLC_VR6_V-Dub to be a cybernetic driving sim machine sent from the future to demonstrate their mastery over us.

His stock gearbox and I assume MT use was perfect. My newer Roadsters stock 6 speed should pay off later I hope!
 
Hah hah! I'll have to watch and see this sim-machine. I was shifting early in my MR2 because if you check it out (it is currently shared) the mid-rpm turbo doesn't give me much power near redline. The only place my shifting varied was before the final hairpin. If i got a perfect run or some draft i could make it to 4th, otherwise I'd just run 3rd to redline before braking. I've got pretty tall gears so I'm hoping to make it to the end of the season without needing a gearbox.
 
Question, how do you have mid turbo? From before race 1? Thought winner got 0 credits.

I shifted at 6500 which is about 100 after HP peak. Probably could have gone to 7000 rpm but the curve drops off. Will share car tonight. GT5 froze up last night.
 
The N/A MR2 was only like 345pp bone-stock. I installed the mid-rpm turbo before the start of the season to get it to exactly 375pp. It works quite well with the tall gearing and should keep me competitive as I add other cheap bolt-ons. Depending on how my rewards work out, I might upgrade to the high-rpm turbo later in the season.
 
I don't think I was accelerating there. I also got into Snoopy around lap 47. He was lapping me and trying to pass me at the same turn, I went low and caught the dirt and slid up into him. That was totally my fault.

As for the final placement, I don't care one way or the other, but 30k would be nice.

Just to know, that wasn't snoopy, that was me. I was pretty upset about it because miata and I were running close lap times. After the bump/recovery/damage, I couldn't hang with him. Snoopy actually started gaining until I made a pit to repair.

That's racing though. No Biggie. :)
 
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