Logitech G Pro Racing Wheel

[renegade an]

I’m using the RS pedals now a couple weeks, coming straight from a G29 setup. It didn’t take me any getting used to it at all, it feels almost natural like the brakes in the vehicles I drive on a daily basis.

 

[tinyman392]

Watch out if you buy the gt 310 from https://maxpapisinc.com/product-cat...racing/sim-racing-wheels/logitech-rswheelhub/

Mine isn’t properly drilled the outer screws. The plastic piece bulges out on all 3 sides and the wheel is loose. Customer service told me to push down. I pushed as hard as I could hurt my hand and nothing. The screws just fall out and can’t be attached. Lame company. Too bad Logitech partnered with them. It makes Logitech look bad. My momo rims were flawless by the way. Screwed in nice and smooth.

Wait, Logitech partnered with them? Like officially? I just assumed it was a third party rim for the RSHub like the others (SimPush, Acelith, RogueRacing, Simucube, etc.). The only official partnerships I know of are Momo and McLaren.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

A 5 lap stint with each set doesnt seem a sample big enough to conclude wich one is better or faster Imho.
What they can say is that they adapted faster to the LC brake of the RS than the pro (in fact, he says that in the video)

I was responding to another post who mentioned their friends experiences and theirs too. It reminded me of that video as first one really to compare both. It seems quite rare in sim racing reviews (A lot seem like promos nowadays) to see someone compare actual performance so good to see ISR return and add something of substance missing in this space.

I have seen others take issue with brake pedal too like on GTPlanet as well as Digit Racing review.

I wonder what they will do with the current Pro line-up as the RS products look in a way the more premium offering with more of a metal build and more comfortable to use wheels. Logitech do tend to keep products for a long time though, G29 has been around for over a decade. I think on this occasion, they will need to update their Pro products to be more competitive.

 

[SPDN Stefano]

Wait, Logitech partnered with them? Like officially? I just assumed it was a third party rim for the RSHub like the others (SimPush, Acelith, RogueRacing, Simucube, etc.). The only official partnerships I know of are Momo and McLaren.

I don't think so. Momo and McLaren wheels are advertised on the Logitech website, MPI are not.

The MPI GT 310 wheel looked good to me so it is kind of unfortunate that people are having trouble with them.

 

[KeaganOBrien]

How are you guys playing gt7 with the g pro?

I have just received a g pro bundle and am upset the trueforce seems so weak.

I thought my wheel was malfunctioning and im considering returning it because im so upset about the nerfing

 

[tinyman392]

How are you guys playing gt7 with the g pro?

I have just received a g pro bundle and am upset the trueforce seems so weak.

I thought my wheel was malfunctioning and im considering returning it because im so upset about the nerfing

They did nerf it at one point. Make sure you max out controller vibration. I don’t have mine maxed out, but that’s a preference thing.

 

[KeaganOBrien]

They did nerf it at one point. Make sure you max out controller vibration. I don’t have mine maxed out, but that’s a preference thing.

Yeah the only way to even faintly feel it is to have it maxed out for me

 

[Chaos Racing]

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This is why im so confused on why this wont work on Playstation, surely the Playstation button is in the hub and the chip is in the base meaning you should be able to use any rim?

 

[tinyman392]

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This is why im so confused on why this wont work on Playstation, surely the Playstation button is in the hub and the chip is in the base meaning you should be able to use any rim?

If you have the PS base, that rim, assuming it’s connected to the RS Hub will work with PlayStation.

 

[Chaos Racing]

If you have the PS base, that rim, assuming it’s connected to the RS Hub will work with PlayStation.

Seems a mine field. Im sure i read 3rd party wheels dont work on PS, But surely its the hub and the base that identifies it?

 

[tinyman392]

But the logitech guy said 3rd party wheels dont work with PS.

If you use the QR adapter (no electronics) then you won’t get PS support (a 3rd party wheel might fall into this). If you use the RS Hub with the buttons and controls you will get PS support (you can attach a 3rd party rim to the RS Hub).

 

[Chaos Racing]

If you use the QR adapter (no electronics) then you won’t get PS support (a 3rd party wheel might fall into this). If you use the RS Hub with the buttons and controls you will get PS support (you can attach a 3rd party rim to the RS Hub).

So PC users can get that SIMAGIC GT Neo Steering Wheel goodness while PS users canot?

 

[tinyman392]

So PC users can get that SIMAGIC GT Neo Steering Wheel goodness while PS users canot?

PS users cannot run that wheel on the G Pro. On the G Pro that wheel would interface with the PC via USB directly. On PS, you can only have one device attached to it. So you can either have the Logitech G Pro or the GT Neo (but the GT Neo has no official support for PS).

If you own a Simagick base, you can connect the wheel to the base then use some third party method of getting the PS to recognize it if you want to use that specific wheel. But it is not possible to use that wheel and the G Pro base.

 

[LOGI_Rich]

Hey all - back from vacation, so catching up.

If the plan is to allow 3rd party to fill in the gaps. Why can't they also have a hub spec they can build around.

We provide Specs/CAD to anyone who requests them, MPI included.

@Chaos Racing to make it more clear:

Third Party Wheels with integrated functionality (buttons, shifters, screens etc.): can only work on PC, connecting mechanically to the Pro/RS50 base using the RS QR Adapter, but to the PC via USB.

Third Party Wheels designed to attach to the RS Wheel Hub: compatible with PC and console, as defined by which version of the base/wheel hub you have. PS Base is required for PS compatibility, XB Wheel Hub is required for XB compatibility; put XB Wheel Hub on a PS Base and you've got something that works on all three platforms.

 

[Marky264]

Hi @LOGI_Rich

Do we know if there will be planned native TrueForce Support for RaceRoom on PC for either the G Pro Wheel or the G RS50 Wheel?

 

[LOGI_Rich]

The Raceroom team have currently opted not to support it.

 

[5lab]

Has anyone experienced force feedback "dropping out" mid race? Happened twice to me now, it doesn't go 100% but drops to maybe 10% of the power it should have (so only really big compressions are felt). Clears after restarting the game and wheel, and only started happening recently

 

[Unlce Jmac]

Has anyone experienced force feedback "dropping out" mid race? Happened twice to me now, it doesn't go 100% but drops to maybe 10% of the power it should have (so only really big compressions are felt). Clears after restarting the game and wheel, and only started happening recently

Yes has happened to me twice in the space of 4 months. Not sure what triggers it, seems random to me.

 

[Childe Roland]

Has anyone experienced force feedback "dropping out" mid race? Happened twice to me now, it doesn't go 100% but drops to maybe 10% of the power it should have (so only really big compressions are felt). Clears after restarting the game and wheel, and only started happening recently

2 times in a year of use and both times after some big crash.
I supposed it was something related with a peak of ffb and trueforce shutting off for safety?

I dont know what triggers it

 

[Darken Azriel]

Hi @LOGI_Rich

will project motor racing support the logitech range of wheels and trueforce at launch?

 

[Marky264]

The Raceroom team have currently opted not to support it.

Thanks for confirming Rich, Sad to see they’re not taking advantage of it. If anyone has any optional settings for RaceRoom for either base please feel free to share them 🙂

 

[Tommy moon]

@LOGI_Rich

Been having a heck of the time with my wheel lately, I believe this is the necessary next step.

Before I file down my hex key...is there a better way to do this or a dedicated tool that's available?

 

[LOGI_Rich]

@Darken Azriel I've only been able to test on PC so far, but yes, Trueforce is supported.

@Tommy moon it's rare for this to be required. It's worth you explaining what the issue is first, though. A video of the issue always helps.

 

[Tommy moon]

@LOGI_Rich I've described this in the past... unfortunately it's hard to capture on video. I'll try to illustrate...

Sometimes....the wheel will experience warble...it will rock my wheel up and down.

Not truforce, but the weight/heavier feedback. Quick snap corrections, during say a heavy turn...if there is an elevation change involved adding to the forces being applied it's even more likely. Also during heavy traffic...or lap 1 scenarios where there can be alot of quick corrections.

When it happens you know it. You would swear the wheel has shifted/come loose from the rig. Afterwards, sometimes it's fine... sometimes it seems to impact FFB, wheel feels off and hard to dial back in.

 

[LOGI_Rich]

The video you linked regards a specific physical issue that would always be detectable (a wobble in the QR adapter on the base) and has no effect on force feedback, so I don't think this is what's happening. The warble you've previously mentioned seems more like force feedback output which, in an dynamic output scenario like this, can of course change because the output from the game will change depending on a host of different factors (car grip, weight shift, driver input, tires etc.).

 

[Tommy moon]

@LOGI_Rich,

I just spoke to a well known long time member here. Surprisingly he has never experienced what I'm describing...and he has several pro users in his core group.

I'm wondering now if maybe I do have something wrong with my base. It would explain a lot. Plus it always originates to my left hand side...never to the right...and I'm not doing ovals so it's not that.

 

[Tommy moon]

The video you linked regards a specific physical issue that would always be detectable (a wobble in the QR adapter on the base) and has no effect on force feedback, so I don't think this is what's happening. The warble you've previously mentioned seems more like force feedback output which, in an dynamic output scenario like this, can of course change because the output from the game will change depending on a host of different factors (car grip, weight shift, driver input, tires etc.).

Well it's happening now A LOT...sure it may be this week's daily and the car and track at hand.

Ill reiterate...it feels like the entire base rocks drastically. I think using warble maybe I'm miscommunicating...it's a mechanical wobble.

My in game torque runs between 3-5, and on wheel strength between 8.5 and 10.5...but 8.5 atm.

If I'm being honest, telling me there are a dynamic set of factors....you know my background a little bit...which I'll spare the group.

So let's assume I understand there are a dynamic set of factors.

Thats like saying sorry this wheel isn't anywhere near capable enough to properly handle how gt7 handles force feedback. Since there is no way this is normal...there is no way my 17 year old son would be strong enough to control the car when this happens.

Im past my warranty so I know I'm SOL...I would actually buy a replacement, I'm not looking for a handout.

But if this isn't a wheel issue and just how it is...why on earth would I?

 

[tinyman392]

Well it's happening now A LOT...sure it may be this week's daily and the car and track at hand.

Ill reiterate...it feels like the entire base rocks drastically. I think using warble maybe I'm miscommunicating...it's a mechanical wobble.

My in game torque runs between 3-5, and on wheel strength between 8.5 and 10.5...but 8.5 atm.

If I'm being honest, telling me there are a dynamic set of factors....you know my background a little bit...which I'll spare the group.

So let's assume I understand there are a dynamic set of factors.

Thats like saying sorry this wheel isn't anywhere near capable enough to properly handle how gt7 handles force feedback. Since there is no way this is normal...there is no way my 17 year old son would be strong enough to control the car when this happens.

Im past my warranty so I know I'm SOL...I would actually buy a replacement, I'm not looking for a handout.

But if this isn't a wheel issue and just how it is...why on earth would I?

Is this specific to GT7? Your description of the issue sounds like the oscillation effects you get on high downforce, heavy FFB vehicles in GT7 where the wheel kind of just oscillates (or wobbles) uncontrollably once you’re at a certain speed. You can kind of adjust to this by holding the wheel slightly tilted left or right (and switching between the two to keep the car going straight), or lowering the FFB. I mainly notice the issue on Gr3, Gr2, and Gr1 cars. From my understanding, this occurs with just about any wheelbase. There were some clips from this weekend’s live events where you can see the drivers dealing with the heavy oscillation/wobbles on Road Atlanta; they’re running Fanatec wheels.

Edit: I should note that if I’m below 6-7 Nm of max force I really don’t notice the issue while driving. If I take either hand off the wheel or loosen the grip, the oscillation effects do come out though. Note this 6-7 Nm where the line is drawn will differ from person to person.

 

[Tommy moon]

Is this specific to GT7? Your description of the issue sounds like the oscillation effects you get on high downforce, heavy FFB vehicles in GT7 where the wheel kind of just oscillates (or wobbles) uncontrollably once you’re at a certain speed. You can kind of adjust to this by holding the wheel slightly tilted left or right (and switching between the two to keep the car going straight), or lowering the FFB. I mainly notice the issue on Gr3, Gr2, and Gr1 cars. From my understanding, this occurs with just about any wheelbase. There were some clips from this weekend’s live events where you can see the drivers dealing with the heavy oscillation/wobbles on Road Atlanta; they’re running Fanatec wheels.

Edit: I should note that if I’m below 6-7 Nm of max force I really don’t notice the issue while driving. If I take either hand off the wheel or loosen the grip, the oscillation effects do come out though. Note this 6-7 Nm where the line is drawn will differ from person to person.

No I understand that. This is different. I'm well aware of the oscillation issues. It always and only originates from the same point, it's not truforce but rather the heavy FFB forces.

It only occurs when turning too my right and the more, weight/downforce etc the more likely/dramatic. Especially turns where you have to chuck it in a bit...meaning the wheel input is quick...rather than a sweeping corner.

Anyways the wheel seemingly lag, and then a huge burst of feedback...it always feels like it's coming from my lower left side and rocks the whole wheel upwards and to the side... diagonally I guess.

I mean it feels like the wheel has come loose from the mounting when it happens... especially with the upwards force...it's dramatic...if you'd felt it before you'd know exactly what I'm describing.

Im actually surprised less people are experiencing this....makes me think it's the base all the more

 

[tinyman392]

Got some accessories for the RS hub. New paddle shifters from SimPush on AliExpress. Didn’t realized they delivered today until I checked the tracking. I’ll be testing them more in depth tomorrow. But they extend much further out than the ones included from Logitech and seem like they’ll fit me better ergonomically too. Not sure if the price of these will drop any lower for the 11/11 sale. They’re about 16 bucks per set (of 2). Photos show only one installed so you can see the physical differences between them.