Need for Speed: Rivals

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Prototyp3
So not sure about the car list for Rivals but I would certainly like to see

Ferrari:
F50
458 Italia
F150 (err..LaFerrari)

McLaren:
F1 (+ variations)
MP4-12C (+ variations)
P1

Pagani:
Zonda (+ variations)
Huayra

Koenigsegg:
Agera
Agera R
CCXR


That would make me a happy camper.
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Ihhhh man if only this lineup appear in GT6, or Shift 3 or even in NFS:Rivals. That would be a blast. 👍
 
darren200cook
So no mandatory drifting?
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I wish to have your optimism about the handling physics, but the moment I read "we layer on Criterion special sauce" I immediately thought "retarded hp2010 drifting physics". God I wish Criterion were not put in charge of the NFS series, as I said before, they are the cancer of NFS.
 
I would say that Black Box (and EA's management) is/was the cancer, something that eventually pops up in the older years to mess things up. (Later games were the trouble makers while earlier BB ones were fine.)

Criterion (and SMS to an extent) would be Chemotherapy, trying to right the wrong though with (relatively minor) detriments.

Anyways, the only worry (apart from DLC packs) is that the PC version will not have some of the advanced graphical features of the 'next-gen' consoles. (Compare the X360 version of MW2005 to the PC version.)
 
BB's NFS games were good, with the exception of Prostreet. The Run in my view left Most Wanted 2012 eating its exhaust fumes. I thought Criterion only had limited control over Rivals. If they made the handling similar to HP3, Ghost should just outsource Rivals to them and let them ruin NFS like they did to the HP and MW names.
 
I have to say The Run is the worst current gen game there is. I only played the story and well it was blah and so I sold it right after I got done.
But for this new game, I guess it's a wait and see to see what it all plays out.

Also Rivals is like what was it, Need for speed Hot Pursuit 2? or 3? that you could choose which side to start off with?
 
I absolutely loved The Run for what it was and I would have to be insane if I ever chose MW2012 or HP over it. I just didn't enjoy Criterion's games with NFS.
 
Despite the interview giving me a good impression of what to expect in terms of driving physics, it's still too early to be making any judgments. News of a new EA studio working on the next installment gave me some hope that we'd get something fresh, something different from CG's cartoon physics. Still, I'll wait for gameplay to base my opinions on.

Personally I would've liked it if the physics straddled the line between realism and arcade, more on the realism side though. I don't care much for looking cool drifting at 150, or treating my car like a weapon, I simply want to drive the cars. But knowing where things are heading, I may as well be asking for a different game.

In retrospect, even though I had been pretty harsh with BB, mostly because of their portrayal of rice and rehashed titles, at least they had easy to pick up physics that I understood.
 
Really hoping that this talk of making NFS "simulation like" is not true.

Why would people even want that we already have GT6 and Forza5 coming out that will fill the sim role. As much as I love sim racing, there just isn't as much you can do with since you are confined to "reality". That's why I've always loved arcade racers as much as I love sim racers. With Arcade there are no holds barred (so to speak) you can go crazy and have fun. Drifting like a mad man is part of that and is ridiculous speeds with nitrous.
 
Classic
I absolutely loved The Run for what it was and I would have to be insane if I ever chose MW2012 or HP over it. I just didn't enjoy Criterion's games with NFS.
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Hot Pursuit was actually excellent. MW2012 was TERRIBLE. I lost almost all respect for Criterion after MW2012.
 
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I liked both HP2010 and MW2012 but they didn't feel like a Need for Speed to me like the Underground series or the classic games.
 
This has now turned into a "I hate Criterion Games" thread.

I don't really know why. Apparently, people seem to have an issue with trying to innovate and doing something new. Criterion could have been lazy and made carbon-copy rehashes of older games and just put new cars in. What would be the point in that? You may as well just play the original version on PC and mod new cars in if that's what you wanted.
 
Bacon
This has now turned into a "I hate Criterion Games" thread.

I don't really know why. Apparently, people seem to have an issue with trying to innovate and doing something new. Criterion could have been lazy and made carbon-copy rehashes of older games and just put new cars in. What would be the point in that? You may as well just play the original version on PC and mod new cars in if that's what you wanted.
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Umm that is exactly what they did with MW2012. Even the title is rehashed. "Most Wanted" then "Most Wanted 2012". There was literally NO innovation AT ALL with MW2012. It was a terrible mix of Burnout Paradise and the original MW. It even went from 60fps to 30fps. Just a terrible terrible game. I don't mind a remake (again I truly enjoyed the Hot Pursuit remake) but MW2012 was beyond insulting. I wont even get into that again here. Already stated my opinion of that poor game in the 2012 thread. They did everything wrong you can imagine with 2012.
 
CAMAROBOY69
Umm that is exactly what they did with MW2012. Even the title is rehashed. "Most Wanted" then "Most Wanted 2012". There was literally NO innovation AT ALL with MW2012. It was a terrible mix of Burnout Paradise and the original MW. It even went from 60fps to 30fps. Just a terrible terrible game. I don't mind a remake (again I truly enjoyed the Hot Pursuit remake) but MW2012 was beyond insulting. I wont even get into that again here. Already stated my opinion of that poor game in the 2012 thread. They did everything wrong you can imagine with 2012.
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Yes and at the end of the day it's your opinion. MW was such a terrible game that it won awards. In fact, Most Wanted 2012 was so bad that it outsold The Run! Yeah, MW was not amazing but it's not as bad as you like to make it out to be when you take everyone's opinions into account, MW2012 was a good game.
 
It's my opinion that your opinion is garbage.

coolboy48
I would say that Black Box (and EA's management) is/was the cancer, something that eventually pops up in the older years to mess things up. (Later games were the trouble makers while earlier BB ones were fine.)

Criterion (and SMS to an extent) would be Chemotherapy, trying to right the wrong though with (relatively minor) detriments.
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EA is the cancer of NFS. BB made superior NFS games for the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube. Now for this current gen they made up & down games. When they tried something new, Prostreet, everyone flipped out. They went back to their old gameplan, Undercover, & EA botched it with a rushed deadline. Then they went & tried something new again, The Run, with mixed results. In the end EA & the fans, yes us guys & girls, killed BB when they did nothing wrong at all.

Prototyp3
Really hoping that this talk of making NFS "simulation like" is not true.
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The NFS series started off as "simulation like." All the PS1 installments had a sense of realism. You couldn't take corners faster than hell or drift at 200MPH like every game after HP2.

Bacon
This has now turned into a "I hate Criterion Games" thread.

I don't really know why. Apparently, people seem to have an issue with trying to innovate and doing something new. Criterion could have been lazy and made carbon-copy rehashes of older games and just put new cars in. What would be the point in that? You may as well just play the original version on PC and mod new cars in if that's what you wanted.
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Like CG says "Easy to play hard to master" People hate the fact any two bit hack can pick up the game & do as good as themselves. Hate to see how they act when a "master" beats them. :lol:
 
CallmeDan
Can we all agree on EA being the cancer of the entire video game industry?
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Well they are getting chemo treatment.

Now with this new game not having a distinction between singleplayer & multiplayer. With what they are saying is that I can be doing a race & all of a sudden my friend, on his console, can come drifting in as a cop to bust me. That is ****ing cool. Like two races meeting up, crossing paths, etc.
 
CallmeDan
Can we all agree on EA being the cancer of the entire video game industry?
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Rainbow Dash
Well they are getting chemo treatment.

Now with this new game not having a distinction between singleplayer & multiplayer. With what they are saying is that I can be doing a race & all of a sudden my friend, on his console, can come drifting in as a cop to bust me. That is ****ing cool. Like two races meeting up, crossing paths, etc.
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That would be cool, but what if you have a very laggy friend? You hear the siren in the distance, then he flies by at the speed of light and bounces across the street like a ricocheting bullet.

Also, nice GIF, Stig. ;)
 
CallmeDan
That would be cool, but what if you have a very laggy friend? You hear the siren in the distance, then he flies by at the speed of light and bounces across the street like a ricocheting bullet.
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That's why there's lag comp. The only time you get jittering players is if their internet is dropping out.
 
Well I pre-ordered mine for the PS3 since well I have no money for a ps4 and figured since GTA 5 and GT 6 are on the ps3 so I said sure why not.
 
Bacon
This has now turned into a "I hate Criterion Games" thread.

I don't really know why. Apparently, people seem to have an issue with trying to innovate and doing something new. Criterion could have been lazy and made carbon-copy rehashes of older games and just put new cars in. What would be the point in that? You may as well just play the original version on PC and mod new cars in if that's what you wanted.
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Way to over react there.

Nobody at all has said anything of the sort. What most of us have said though, is that we didn't like the choices Criterion made with MW2012 whilst still giving praise to Hot Pursuit.
And again, nobody has an issue with being innovative & what not. It's how they carried it out. You're talking as if no one can give any sort of negative opinion.
Bacon
Yes and at the end of the day it's your opinion. MW was such a terrible game that it won awards. In fact, Most Wanted 2012 was so bad that it outsold The Run! Yeah, MW was not amazing but it's not as bad as you like to make it out to be when you take everyone's opinions into account, MW2012 was a good game.
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What difference do awards & sells make?

Call of Duty wins multiple awards & continuously breaks sales records, but you still see people calling the entire franchise crap.
 
McLaren
Way to over react there.

Nobody at all has said anything of the sort. What most of us have said though, is that we didn't like the choices Criterion made with MW2012 whilst still giving praise to Hot Pursuit.
And again, nobody has an issue with being innovative & what not. It's how they carried it out. You're talking as if no one can give any sort of negative opinion.

What difference do awards & sells make?

Call of Duty wins multiple awards & continuously breaks sales records, but you still see people calling the entire franchise crap.
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Nobody has said anything of the sort? Hmm...is me reading people state that CG is the cancer of NFS just my imagination? I do not think so. People can give negative opinions I just hate it when people try to pass it off as fact when they have no real evidence to back it up with. Now if I say MW2012 is a good game at least I have some half-credible evidence. The awards. The excellent reviews from credible websites, the selling figures. You can't really argue with that. Actual bad games don't do what Most Wanted has done. They all point to MW2012 being a good game in most of the public opinion and not a bad one. Maybe it would be better if people just said they didn't like it. Wouldn't come off as quite so obnoxious.

Does a crap game sell? No. Obviously COD is one of the best, if not the best game out there because it sells so much and always receives good reviews. It's just some people personally don't like it. That does not make it a crap game...
 
Agreed. Crap games are noticeable. That FUEL game was so bad they shut the online off for it after a year...

McLaren
Call of Duty... ...but you still see people calling the entire franchise crap.
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People say that either after they got beaten bad in a match or if they constantly suck. My BF curses the people who birthed the people who made COD but he still plays the game & enjoys it.
 
Disappointment. The Lexus LFA has gone through while the Ford Shelby GT500 has advanced to the next stage of the Facebook comp. Now I'm just praying to God that the Huayra is available for cops.

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Semi-Finals:

Aston Martin Vanquish vs. Lexus LFA
Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Black Series vs. Ford Shelby GT500

Also, here's an open letter from Executive Producer, Marcus Nilsson, regarding Need for Speed: Rivals.

Hey Need for Speed fans!

Thought I'd drop you guys a post about Need for Speed Rivals.

It’s great to be in a position to talk about it to some detail. My name is Marcus Nilsson. I'm the Executive Producer at Ghost Games in Gothenburg. I worked at DICE, the home of Battlefield, for 8 years but then I had the amazing opportunity to build a new studio focused on making great Need for Speed games.

My crew comes from all over the world - some great guys with phenomenal experience making games at Bizarre and Turn 10 but also just generally kickass teams at Rockstar, DICE and Capcom. We're all passionate about Need for Speed. They're the driving games we grew up on, and that'll show in what we are making.

At Ghost, we're into respect, fun and excellence, and we want to bring that to our games. It's about respect for the fans and Need for Speed's amazing heritage. It's about fun, because too many games today feel kind of serious. And it's about excellence, because Need for Speed fans won't settle for anything less.

In Rivals we're bringing back features we loved in previous games like playing as a cop, high-end pursuit technology and car personalization, to name a few.

And obviously we're insanely excited to bring back Ferrari, because those cars are pure awesomeness.

So, new game, new features and new questions. We want to get you the answers and my team and I will do so right here on the blog in time. Consider this little note a “hello”.

And we want to hear from you guys, too! To start with, we’re looking for you to tell us what car you want to see on both sides of the law in our King of the Streets bracket on Facebook now. This will be the only car available to both cops and racers, so choose wisely!

M
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SOURCE: http://www.needforspeed.com/news/me...al-us-socom-fb-minor-beat-learn-message-ghost
 
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Ah, so no racer version of the Agera R then... (The little DLC/real product unlock code promo warning hum just started in the back of the head.)

The website finally works again and the car list section for older games is a bit of a incomplete mess now.

To be fair to BB though, I really, really liked the ideas that came out from the X360/PS3 gen. I accept the explanation that Carbon to Undercover were rushed due to the yearly schedule but Run just came off as horrifically incomplete and non polished despite the 2-3 year gap, even including the development of NFS World.

Also, anyone want to open a BB post-mortem thread? Might be better to keep this NFS developer talk separate from the Rivals thread.
 
cop and racers have different sets of cars... lame.

Just deflated my hype quite a bit. They should give each car the option of both. Why not?
 

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