Never played Forza - what am i missing?

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NOTE: I figured any Froza thread would be fine, this one is new so i guess more people would
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Never ever in my life have i touched a button on a controller while a Forza game was running.
I have never bought an Xbox nor Forza game, and never tried playing it on a video game show.

But i am aware of all the Forza games and the content it provides.
I like the games, heck i even have downloaded over 20 Forza trailers just because i love to watch them.
The Forza Horizon 3 trailer is especially good!

So here's my question, in as small as you possibly can explain:

What am i missing on? (please be serious, don't write lousy answers like: "Everything.")

(take note that this refers to the previous and current games)
 
One of my favorite things in Forza Horizon 2 was just going for a drive. I'd take the ole Audi RS2 and drive around the European roads, go from 1 town to another. Driving in normal speeds much like real driving. When it started raining, I would literally pull over at times and just hear the rain hit the windows. The sound was so on point, its as if I was really there just relaxing. Look forward to Forza Horizon 3.
 
It largely depends on whether we're talking Motorsport or Horizon, I guess... Both have a different focus.

As for Horizon, the big thing, for me, has been the feeling of taking a car I'm interested in, modifying it to taste and taking to the open road. There's a couple of games that might allow you to do that, but Horizon also offers believable physics. It's not quite what I'd call a simulator and more arcade-y than the Motorsport franchise (so far, at least), but it's still far more reasonable and far better at portraying what driving a car ought to feel like than most other open world driving games I've played.

That combination of physics, car customization and open, scenic roads made Horizon a better approximation of what car ownership is about than any circuit racer could, for example.
 
I've discovered it back in 2009 with Forza 3 and has been a day 1 buyer ever since.
Same here :), although I don't have an X-ONE so I can't experience Forza 5, 6 and Horizon 2 (but I do have Horizon 2 on the 360).

There is an arcade at the mall that has X-ONE games, but it's on the pricey side ($10 an hour, except for Tuesday where it's $10 all day).
 
@citroengt1 I liked reading your post, it reminded me of when I was on the fence of jumping into the Forza world. Nearly two years ago I started this thread at GTP's Forza 5 forum, I'll post it here since there is no chance of the thread being locked due do it being locked. I posted a series of questions and the answers I got were really insightful, I think you'll enjoy giving it a read.

But that was two years ago, since then I've been playing Forza 5, Horizon 2 and now Forza 6. I think the first thing you will notice that you've been missing are basic things that GT should have addressed years ago. Things like having great sounds which to be honest I didn't think it would make much of a difference but it is something that blows you away when you first experience it. Having rock solid/locked performance in every single game 1080 @60 fps for Motorsport and 30 fps for Horizon, again after you try it you think that it should be a number one priority for a racing game.

There are also things like selectable AI difficulty levels and proper damage which is nothing new, other games have had it but are good things to have. An important feature that is likely to get you hooked like a crack head is Rivals which is essentially fighting your way through the leaderboards in a really cool, fun way.


As far as cars go, you can head to the car list threads and see this for yourself, variety is great. Cars sound awesome, every car has their cockpit fully modeled. There's Forzavista if you're up for some car porn.

The most important thing however that I think you're missing is being treated well as a customer. I think I sound like a fan at times but I'm mostly an appreciative customer, since I started buying T10 products I have not felt let down once, some things I'd have prefered to be slightly different but in terms of overall quality everything has been phenomenal. They seem to have great planning, time management skills, I have not experienced a single delay, every feature that has been advertised has come and in due time. DLC programs also have been top notch (I even got the MP4/4!), you get this continous flow of
work, it's a wonderful feeling.

tl;dr: Jump into Forza world, it's a nice, fun, stress-free place. You
won't regret it.
 
Since you're coming from the GT ecosystem, I'll use that as a reference point.

GT is a game of peaks and valleys. Some stuff is very, very good (Premium graphics, car list size), while other stuff is very poor (sounds, Standard graphics, visual customization). Forza titles are may not be as ambitious in their quest to jam every possible feature into a game, but what is in there is very consistent. Quality is high across the board, and that's probably why their games maintain such a high Metacritic score.

There's no delays. There's no advertising of features as major selling points, only to hold off for two years (hello, course creator). The game ships relatively bug-free, and remains that way through its life (though there are a handful of stand-out ones that still aren't fixed). GT6 gets a lot of kudos for PD's continued updates over the course of almost two years, but when one update fixes a bug and creates another, it's no wonder they have a long support plan. T10 rarely messes with the physics mid-cycle, too: I personally found it hugely frustrating in GT5 when PD would tinker, changing whether tire grade was factored into PP, or messing with tuning so that every tuning garage here at GTP had to start fresh.

GT has the car maintenance thing with mileage and wear. It's one of the ways the cars feel like they're really yours, but it can be tedious (and the oil changes are laughably unrealistic). Forza keeps track of the mileage, but the improved customization, and of course the livery editor, means cars really do feel like your own. It's always a joy going online and seeing other peoples' custom creations. Engine/drivetrain/aspiration swaps help in that regard, too.

One thing you'll miss, if you're into that sort of thing, is the Photomode. Nothing comes close to PD's detail-oriented one, and although Forza's can produce good photos, it's mostly down to the assets. In GT, I feel like I need to know my way around a camera, and that's cool for me. But I can see why Forza's simple sliders are good for other people.

With Horizon 2 and FM6, it feels like T10 are making good on their promise of being for car enthusiasts and car culture. You feel like they truly love these vehicles, and want to share that passion with people. The car list is inspired – really, FM6 has ended with an arguably better list than FM4. They also hold regular events with the staff playing with the community, once or twice a week, which is something I think more companies should do.

Sorry this isn't short. I made the jump back just before FM4's release after trying FM3 for a while, and I've never regretted it. I like both GT and FM for different reasons, and I'm glad I can enjoy both instead of having to pick one or the other. If you can do it, you won't regret it. 👍
 
NOTE: I figured any Froza thread would be fine, this one is new so i guess more people would
see this.


Never ever in my life have i touched a button on a controller while a Forza game was running.
I have never bought an Xbox nor Forza game, and never tried playing it on a video game show.

But i am aware of all the Forza games and the content it provides.
I like the games, heck i even have downloaded over 20 Forza trailers just because i love to watch them.
The Forza Horizon 3 trailer is especially good!

So here's my question, in as small as you possibly can explain:

What am i missing on? (please be serious, don't write lousy answers like: "Everything.")

(take note that this refers to the previous and current games)

Compared to GT, you're missing out on a lot.

You're missing out on better AI, better sounds, better customization, DLC consisting of real cars instead of car manufacturer's art projects, a more balanced car list that isn't biased towards one region, consistent release schedule for games, and more.

The best part is that Horizon 3 is going to set a higher standard for Forza since it will bring more visual customization, the auction house and storefront, and other exciting features that will hopefully be implented into FM7 when that inevitably comes.

Meanwhile, I watched the second GT Sport trailer and there's still nothing that makes me want to buy a PS4 in anticipation. Plus, this focus on online racing is a huge turnoff IMO. I've been waiting for Kaz to build on what made GT4 so good, but he hasn't done that at all in the past 6 years. Until he decides to, Forza is where it's at.
 
GT is a playable car encyclopedia, while the Forza games just seem more fun.
Maybe it was the case with previous installments, but GTS is not gonna impress anyone with it's car list, especially not if you have Forza 6 with all the DLC content. It's just not even a comparison worth making, 600 vs 130, nuff said.
 
Maybe it was the case with previous installments, but GTS is not gonna impress anyone with it's car list, especially not if you have Forza 6 with all the DLC content. It's just not even a comparison worth making, 600 vs 130, nuff said.
Especially when half the car list is full of VGTs and fantasy cars with others being outdated.
 
Simply put: You buy Gran Turismo because you are interested in learning about and discovering cars, particularly in the Japanese culture. For someone wanting to understand why people are obsessed with the motor car, Gran Turismo provides a great platform for educating those new to the world of cars.

You buy Forza Motorsport or Horizon because you are interested in competitive racing and experiencing the thrill of driving cars fast. You can also learn about cars in Forza games, but not to the same degree as you do in Gran Turismo games. On the other hand, while GT games have dated concepts when it comes to racing, Forza games keep on pushing the boundaries on recreating the experience of racing, whether that is on closed circuits or in an open world setting.

Admittedly, GT Sport seems to be a turning point the franchise as it is focusing more on competitive racing than car count, but with lack of content and single player features, plus a focus on e-Sport means it is a niche product which is lagging behind Forza in a number of ways.
 
NOTE: I figured any Froza thread would be fine, this one is new so i guess more people would
see this.


Never ever in my life have i touched a button on a controller while a Forza game was running.
I have never bought an Xbox nor Forza game, and never tried playing it on a video game show.

But i am aware of all the Forza games and the content it provides.
I like the games, heck i even have downloaded over 20 Forza trailers just because i love to watch them.
The Forza Horizon 3 trailer is especially good!

So here's my question, in as small as you possibly can explain:

What am i missing on? (please be serious, don't write lousy answers like: "Everything.")

(take note that this refers to the previous and current games)

I suggest you go out and buy a cheap used xbox unit, you buy fm6 and fh2 now, fh3 in three months,
and when scorpio is out for preorder sell your used unit and get that one with fm7 day 1.

this is my answer, equally as small as possible
:)
 
I bought Gran Turismo 1 shortly after release and fell in love with it. Over 1 hundred cars and 11 tracks, that was a big deal for a racing game back then. I loved the racing modifications and taking an ordinary car, like the Mitsubishi FTO, and modifying it into a full race car slowly over time. I loved GT2 and GT3 (even thought they dropped the racing modifications). GT4 was still a great game but lost some of the magic that made the first 3 games so great. The last game I bought was GT5 and I was fairly disappointed with it, the rally physics weren't fun anymore and the career structure I didn't care for much either. I heard GT6 was a lot better but I haven't played it.

Shortly after GT4 I bought a used xbox and a copy of Forza 1. The physics weren't that great compared to GT but they were good enough to enjoy the game and I loved the customization options and the livery editor, plus you could race online with your friends, something GT4 didn't offer. Over time the physics got better and better with each successive Forza sequel, which I feel is now very much on par with Gran Turismo. And that was the last advantage GT really had. It was at this point that GT sort of lost me. I gave GT5 a fair shake but it didn't hold my interested over the 40-50 hour mark the way FM4 did. The long development times for GT games also got to me at the end, I waited 6 years for GT5 only to have Premium and standard cars in my game, and that just felt unfinished to me especially after such a long, long wait.

What are you missing? Gorgeous cockpit views in ALL cars, better customization, very realistic physics, better car sounds and a much shorter wait for each sequel.
 
Guys/Gals thank you for all the comments so far!
And i can tell you that it finally added about that 5% of assuring
that i needed to get a Forza game.

But to be honest, after rethinking the past years,
i always wanted a Forza game, the problem was money of course.
But now that Microsoft finally made a decision that was suppose
to be made like from the first Xbox, i can have the new Forza Horizon on the Windows 10.
And surely the upcoming main Forza installment too.

Again guys/gals, thank you!
:bowdown:
 
I always played on the ps3/ps4 and pc since i didnt had a xbox and i never found THAT free roam open world racing game with the custimazation options that horizon has.

And now since 1 year i have a xbox one with FH2 and this was really THAT game i was looking for its a perfect balance between arcade and simulation ( not that need for speed ********)

And although i dont play it that much (since im a pc gamer) i dont regret my choice buying one.
 
You're missing a lot of things that, unfortunately, GT is missing - such as the level of customization and the open world environment. I think I like the actual races better in GT, but Forza is a better game from an enjoyment perspective imo. Really wish FM would be released on PC so people didn't have to buy a separate system to play it.
 
Really wish FM would be released on PC so people didn't have to buy a separate system to play it.
It is being released on PC so that people who bet on a different console to cover their racing needs can still play it.
 
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GT is a playable car encyclopedia, while the Forza games just seem more fun.

I think I agree. What I like about GT6 over FM6 is that there are genuine paint colours with their names and that you can find descriptions of the cars included. It's fun on track, up to a point, but Forza's experience is some way ahead of GT's once you're away from specifications.
 
I'm thinking about giving Forza Horizon a shot too.
Always had a great time with TDU and had some fun with TDU2(despite the story), but as of late no other game has scratched that pulsating itch to just start the game to just go for a ride.

I played The Crew with a controller on pc, but it still didn't give me enjoyment I was looking for, maybe I need to play "arcade/semi-arcade" games on the couch with the controller, and play the sim games on pc with the wheel and racing seat.
Maybe I'm old fashioned but I find playing games on the couch in the living room a bit more laidback than in playing games sitting in my desk chair in my computer "cave"

Watched a few FH2 vids on youtube and I must say it looks and sounds pretty good and reading everyone's comments here, a long time Playstation (and GT)player might be getting a Xbox soon.
 
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I think what's great about Forza is it has no real flaws like GT does. There are lots of things it can improve on for sure but there isn't one area where it's seriously lacking. It's kind of replaced GT as the jack of all trades driving game.
 
NOTE: I figured any Froza thread would be fine, this one is new so i guess more people would
see this.


Never ever in my life have i touched a button on a controller while a Forza game was running.
I have never bought an Xbox nor Forza game, and never tried playing it on a video game show.

But i am aware of all the Forza games and the content it provides.
I like the games, heck i even have downloaded over 20 Forza trailers just because i love to watch them.
The Forza Horizon 3 trailer is especially good!

So here's my question, in as small as you possibly can explain:

What am i missing on? (please be serious, don't write lousy answers like: "Everything.")

(take note that this refers to the previous and current games)

Well, as far as the F.horizon games are concerned, you're actually missing out on a lot!

Long story short: just GET the game, you won't regret it. :D
 
I'm thinking about giving Forza Horizon a shot too.
Always had a great time with TDU and had some fun with TDU2(despite the story), but as of late no other game has scratched that pulsating itch to just start the game to just go for a ride.

I played The Crew with a controller on pc, but it still didn't give me enjoyment I was looking for, maybe I need to play "arcade/semi-arcade" games on the couch with the controller, and play the sim games on pc with the wheel and racing seat.
Maybe I'm old fashioned but I find playing games on the couch in the living room a bit more laidback than in playing games sitting in my desk chair in my computer "cave"

Watched a few FH2 vids on youtube and I must say it looks and sounds pretty good and reading everyone's comments here a long time Playstation (and GT)player might be getting a Xbox soon.

Yeah, i played TDU as well, i absolutely loved it. Racing and cruising down the orad with a manual shifting it early so you can enjoy that steady RPM climb. Especially in the DB4. Man that's a good sound. I might post a video here.
 
NOTE: I figured any Froza thread would be fine, this one is new so i guess more people would
see this.


Never ever in my life have i touched a button on a controller while a Forza game was running.
I have never bought an Xbox nor Forza game, and never tried playing it on a video game show.

But i am aware of all the Forza games and the content it provides.
I like the games, heck i even have downloaded over 20 Forza trailers just because i love to watch them.
The Forza Horizon 3 trailer is especially good!

So here's my question, in as small as you possibly can explain:

What am i missing on? (please be serious, don't write lousy answers like: "Everything.")

(take note that this refers to the previous and current games)
You're missing classic cars not seen in any other game.
You're missing fantasy tracks at real locations with awesome scenery.
You're missing the sounds associated with the game: from fireworks & confetti to hot air balloons & squiggly men.

This game has a car for everyone.
 
I'm not sure where to ask this, so here I go anyway.
Will FH3 on PC be playable with a wheel?
 
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