New Bond Film - Quantum of Solace

[Earth]

+reps and whatnots for the AM trivia !..

In my opinion, Craig is, BY FAR, the coolest Bond ever !... Now, if the movie companies would just tell Health and Safety to **** off and let Bond start smoking cigarettes again :-)

C'mon, Sean Connery and the blonde guy are cooler

Craig may be cooler in thsi bond but he was too fresh in the first Bond, which was how he was suppose to be because that was the first Bond movie and he was still wet behind the ears after first becoming a 00

"You're eating and we're about to die?"

"But I'm hungry. Besides, you never know what meal may be your last."

- Sean Connery as James Bond with thick Scottish accent

 

[prisonermonkeys]

I don't know if you're following this thread at this point in time, Flerbizky, but if you do watch the trailer, pay attention during the meeting between Bond and Felix Leiter where Bond asks how long he has and Felix tells him he's got maybe thirty seconds. Just before Bond replies "Well, that doesn't give us a lot of time" (somewhere around the 1:20 mark), you can quite clearly see the smoke trail from a cigarette. The cancer sick itself is obscured by the beer bottle, but one of them - most likely Leiter - is definately smoking.

 

[Robin]

The trailers officially up!

http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/quantumofsolace/

 

[jonspeaks22]

who is the new bond girl? dont know her name

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Olga Kurylenko is Camille and Gemma Arterton plays Agent Fields.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Title singer has been announced!

For the first time ever, a James Bond film will feature a duet as its main theme. It will be performed by Alicia Keys and White Stripes frontman Jack White and will be called Another Way to Die.

 

[Robin]

Didnt they say it was either going to Amy Winehouse or Duffy???

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Didnt they say it was either going to Amy Winehouse or Duffy???

No, the tabloids were saying that. And the tabloids have never guessed it until now (though they were linking White and Keys to the song separately, so I suspect they may have had an inside leak). The tabloids like to do this with every Bond film: try and ram one artist down our throats as if doing so will somehow get that artist the role. All we do know is that Winehouse submitted a demo tape to EON (and she was allegedly very upset that Keys got it; apparently she never considered the notion she wouldn't be performing it), and there was no word on Duffy's activities, assuming she was doing anything about it. It would be very interesting to know who else submitted demo tapes ...

 

[Robin]

Interesting stuff, yeah the media always tend to warp stuff but I really could have seen Duffy doing it because she has that classic kinda voice which reminds you of the early Bond theme tunes

Robin

 

[YSSMAN]

Two Americans singing a Bond theme? Whats the world coming to...

The Duffy suggestion would have seemed logical at this point, given her current popularity across the ocean, and that which is growing here in the US/Canada. But, nevertheless, I'm a pretty big Jack White fan, so I'm eagerly anticipating what will happen.

 

[Robin]

For anyone who doesnt know what Duffy sounds like heres a sample .... you can kinda see why it would suit bond (maybe with a few more 'die' and 'kill' words added



She was excellent at Glastonbury.. what a performance!

Robin

 

[YSSMAN]

I play two of her songs at work after we close (Warwick Avenue and Mercy), and every time it plays, people always ask who she is. I'm surprised its taking this long for her to catch on. Then again, I tend to get music from BBC1 before it ever becomes popular here...

Actually, now that I think about it, I'm kinda disappointed she isn't singing the theme. Welsh hotties FTW.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

I was against both Duffy and Winehoue because I got the impression that if they performed the theme, all we'd realy get was a 60's-esque Bond song that, while construed as a tribute to the franchise and its history, would ultimately be forgettable and very much a throwaway song.

However, a lot of fans are reacting negatively to the White/Keys combination. Their problems stem from the notion that composer David Arnold wasn't involved in writing the song; it's all Jack White. Because of this, they seem to have developed the idea that Arnold, a professional musician, was not consulted by the producers as to the choice, will not be able to incorporate the song into the score, and so on. Somewhat ironic that these complaints come from the same fans who want Arnold gone from the franchise. None of them seem to much like the title Another Way to Die either, thinking it's a throwback to the Brosnan Era when the producers were fond of making references to killing and dying in the film title.

On the whole, James Bond fans are idiots (and yes, I count myself among that number). We all have this idea of how the perfect Bond film should be made, and when it doesn't eventuate, we all go seeking every little thing we don't like about it.

Personally, I think it's a step in the right direction. Alicia Keys has a much more emotive voice than the likes of Winehouse, and while it took me a while to get used to White, I think they've got what it takes.

 

[YSSMAN]

On the whole, James Bond fans are idiots (and yes, I count myself among that number). We all have this idea of how the perfect Bond film should be made, and when it doesn't eventuate, we all go seeking every little thing we don't like about it.

I think that has to be the greatest truism I've ever read about Bond fans. Coin it. COIN IT NOW!

It must be terrible when I think that To Live and Let Die was the pinnacle of Bond themes despite my love for the later Garbage theme for TWINE. Then again, I also tend to think that Bond movies tend to exist in waves, both good and bad. It would be a fair assessment to say that we're in a "good" wave again, but who knows how long it'll last.

I got around to watching some of the "new classic" Bond films the other day, and I just had to [facepalm] at the fact that I had considered them to be quite good. Goldeneye aside, most of the Brosnan films were a bit "lackluster" despite the star power behind them. Tomorrow Never Dies had me choking on my sandwich with how terrible the special effects were... Maybe I'm too cynical based on how far things have come, but when they're still using Moore-era models and what seems like CGI circa-1993, I had to cringe.

That all being said, I do have a lot of confidence in the current crop of things because they've taken it back down the path of realism. Its a similar approach that they've applied to Batman, and it has re-launched a franchise that would have otherwise been dead. Its almost as if the lack of CGI in Casino Royale makes me respect it on a level far beyond its predecessors. Of course, for some reason, I just can't let Goldeneye go. Its still my favorite. Well, second to Goldfinger. Tied with To Live and Let Die. Just for the pimps.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

The problem with the Age of Brosnan wasn't so much the actor himself, but some of the decisions on the part of the Powers That Be. GoldenEye stands out as a decent film because it had an actual theme to it: Bond needed the world in the post-Cold War era, but the question at hand was whether the world still needed Bond, and for that reason alone it stans out.

Tomorrow Never Dies was a series of wasted opportunities, a plot that audiences couldn't suspend their disbelief for and a director whose credits included the Sylvester Stallone comedy Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot, possibly one of the worst films ever made. The plot of Tomorrow Never Dies should have invovled Bond going after General Chang and finding a connection to Elliot Carver, not the other way around (see what I meant by all of us having our own idea how it should be done?). I just couldn't buy the fact that such a public figure could orchestrate such a plan. But if you really want to see the telling mistakes in the editorial department, two stick out: the interior of the stealth boat is far bigger than the exterior, and Bond grinning like a child when he finds the inflatable tyres in his BMW less than five minutes after finding one of th few women he loved dead simply for knowing him.

The World Is Not Enough will always be one of my favourites because it was the first I saw. Thematically, it had something as well; exploring the world's need for oil. It wasn't as strong as GoldenEye, and let down by Denise Richards, the second-worst Bond Girl of all time (behind Halle Berry ... but only just). And the less we say about Die Another Day the better, though I think of it as our reward for being content with lesser films. I could have done a better job than that; I whooly intend to, as I'm seriously looking to be a screenwriter.

Fortunately, Neal Purvis and Robert Wade, the men responsible for writing what has been come to be known as Diarrhea And Diphtheria have less involvement now they only did the story to Quantum of Solace; they didn't touch the script, which is by Paul Haggis, with Joshua Zetumer on script doctor duties.

The Age of His Manliness, Daniel Craig (to give his full title) represents a new direction. We're not getting actors like Berry whose names overshadow their characters, and EON are making serious attempts to show Bond as an actual human rather than a flippant killing machine (though some of the footage we've seen still shows him as arrogant and flippant and a killing machine ... he just bleeds, now physically and metaphorically speaking). Marc Forster said that if this were any other film, he would not have taken the directorial job. Craig has said that even though he's contracted for this film and the next before it's up for renewal, he wouldn't do Quantum of Solace if he felt the script was of lesser quality. Quantum of Solace will be good. Just try telling that to the fans.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

New trailer!

 

[YSSMAN]

Now THAT is the proper Bond film that I can love! November can't come soon enough...

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Tell me about it. I'm tuned into a couple of Bond forums and the reaction has pretty much been positiv across the board. Only a handful of people are responding negatively to the CGI composite shot of the two actors falling through the skylight, and even then, we're pretty sure there's only a handful of frames that are CGI.

 

[MagpieRacer]

That looks dam sweet, definately seeing this.

Cant beleive people are moaning about CGI though..

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Cant beleive people are moaning about CGI though..

They do have grounds for it, though. Die Another Day was an exercise in how not to use CGI, but I saw someone break this skylight sequence down frame-by-frame, and there's oly the slightest amount. For obvious reasons, they filmed the fall in two sections: one on location and one on the Pinewood set. The actors dropped onto a crashmat in Siena and then finished it on the Double-Oh Seven stage. The CGI comes in because they had to digitally line the actors up in the fetmoseconds between the Siena and Pinewood halves of the shot. It's really quite minimal, but the unique angle - Marc Forster seems to be using a lot of them to add a sense of depth to the locations - means that a lot of people think there's a hell of a lot more CGI than before.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

The theme song is available online from Third Man Records, though if you're in North America, yu're going to have to wait until the 23rd to hear is. These are the lyrics:

Another ringer with the slick trigger finger for Her Majesty
Another one with the golden tone voice and then your fantasy
Another bill from a killer turned a thrill into a tragedy

A door left open, a woman walking by
A drop in the water, a look in your eye
A phone on the table, a man on your side
Or someone that you think that you can trust
It’s just another way to die

Another tricky little gun giving solace to the one that will never see the sun shine
Another inch of your life sacrificed for your brother in the nick of time
Another dirty money, heaven-sent honey turning on a dime

A door left open, a woman walking by
A drop in the water, a look in your eye
A phone on the table, a man on your side
Or someone that you think that you can trust
It’s just another way to die

Another girl with her finger on the world singing to you what you want to hear
Another gun thrown down in surrender took away your fear
Another man that stands right behind you looking in the mirror

A door left open, a woman walking by
A drop in the water, a look in your eye
A phone on the table, a man on your side
Or someone that you think that you can trust
It’s just another way to die

Personally, I quite like it, but Bond fans are reviling it, and it hasn't been accepted to well be critics and it was played on BBC Radio late yesterday (if you download yesterday's show with Jo Whiley nd skip to the fifty-fifth minute, you'll be able to hear it) and listeners didn't take too well to it, either.

However, it's my belief that Jack White created the song to accompany the film, not to be commercially successful in its own right. When you start makng Bond themes that are designed to be released and make millions of dollars, you end up getting trashy Euro-synthpop like Madonna's atrocity.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

And here's the music video for Another Way to Die.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Please excuse the double-post, but I found this fan-made TV spot on YouTube. While I usually don't hold to fan media, I'm posting this because it shows footage from the film with Another Way to Die playing over the top. I know it's not a particularly stong song on its own, but when the chorus kicks in as the Alfa wipes out, you'll see it really suits the images. To me it kind of confirmsmy belief that Jack White wrote it as a theme for the film first and a commercial endeavour second, unlike previous themes.

 

[Dave A]

I agree, I think the song overall will fit the film. It shouldn't matter if the theme tune doesn't hit number 1 on the charts, it just matters how it works with the movie.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Yeah; when you make a theme song for MTV, you end up getting Die Another Day ...

 

[Only_in_f1]

Two Americans singing a Bond theme? Whats the world coming to...

The Duffy suggestion would have seemed logical at this point, given her current popularity across the ocean, and that which is growing here in the US/Canada. But, nevertheless, I'm a pretty big Jack White fan, so I'm eagerly anticipating what will happen.

Earlier this week Noel Gallagher slammed producers for choosing US artists, saying it was a "p***-take" that a movie featuring the archetypal English spy was to be soundtracked by "a bunch of ****ing Americans".


Have to say I do prefer the Duffy track.

 

[Alex.]

Duffy's voice annoys me, and I do like the jack white track.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Earlier this week Noel Gallagher slammed producers for choosing US artists, saying it was a "p***-take" that a movie featuring the archetypal English spy was to be soundtracked by "a bunch of ****ing Americans".

Actually, he said that nearly a month ago when Another Way to Die was first released.

 

[Patrik]

Ugh! I almost got scared when she started "singing"!

And my opinion on Bond is that they should have quit doing films about him a long *** ******* time ago...

 

[PARAGON GT]

Ugh . . is the talent pool getting a little shallow and they were all that was left?

The White/Keys song was terrible. Initially I thought that the music was ok. But the meshing of the voices leaves a lot to be desired.

Duffy's voice is creepy sounding. Sounds like some one is strangling her when she was trying to hold a note.