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BlazinXtreme
Although we don't get TVR's in the US so does it really matter how they preform based to the vette? They won't ever share the road since I can't see the vette doing well in England.

Not at £52,000 with the interior of a £14,000 car they won't, that's for sure.
 
BlazinXtreme
Although we don't get TVR's in the US so does it really matter how they preform based to the vette?
Yes when claims are made that it's the best performance for you're money (not counting track day cars ie Radical's, Westfield's ect) around and TVR's are very big contenders for that title.
 
But the Vette in America is hands down the best performance for the money. Plus I am glad we don't get TVR's in America, they are ugly. Plus British cars tend to flop, at least around my neck of the wood (Midwest).
 
BlazinXtreme
I am glad we don't get TVR's in America, they are ugly.

You are kidding me, right?

BlazinXtreme
Plus British cars tend to flop, at least around my neck of the wood (Midwest).

Let's just name all the British cars sold in the US. Ever.

Errrr.


Hmmm.

In all seriousness, you're looking at one type of car, really. The executive car - Jaguar (and don't tell me Jaguars don't sell in the US), Bentley, Rolls-Royce. They're bought by wealthy people. I can't imagine (m)any other "British" cars have ever made it to sale in the US. Sure, there's the recent introduction of the Elise (and you still don't get the Exige - pity) and TVR plans to move over there too, but you're missing out on a whole bundle of Aston Martins, Lotusesesesi throughout history (S1 Elan, S2 Elan, Se7en, Elite, Esprit - bar 8 Sport 350s, which were actually softened for the US market and struck off the Sport 350 list by Lotus - Elite, Excel, Eclat, Europa, M250), some of our finest cottage cars (Morgans, the Ariel Atom, all Caterhams and Westfields ever, the sportier Jaguars, Invicta, Tiger), and all of the old MGs, back when MGs were MGs - the list is nearly endless. And, lest we forget, the original Issigonis Mini...

Of course you've also missed out on an awful lot of total dross over the years too - everything Vauxhall have ever made, the whole of British Leyland (Morris Ital, Morris Marina, Austin Princess, Triumph TR7), anything from MG/Rover since 1984 - so I guess it balances out.

It's not that "British" cars don't sell well in your area. They aren't sold at all in the US with only sparing exceptions - no doubt Doug could fill us all in on the details.

Of course that doesn't stop you enjoying our motorsport... F1? All but two are based in England (including French Renault). World Rally? All built in England (yes, even the Japanese ones). How about IRL? Did you know that all of your chassis (whatever the plural for THAT is) are made in the UK?

It doesn't stop you enjoying our other cars either. GT40? You paid for it, we designed and built it. Shelby Cobra? No comment. Even John Z. DeLorean's finest was a British product.


But enough about the UK and its rather bizarre motoring output. TVRs aren't ugly and British cars don't flop near you because they aren't sold in the US at all.
 
You are kidding me, right?

Nope not kidding you, they are ugly. the Griffith looks like a bad S2000, the Chimeria's ass is ugly with the tails, the Tuscan is just bizarre looking but I don't like it. The link in the right doesn't work. But it's all a matter of opinion, I think Skylines are ugly as well. I'm not saying TVR's are bad cars, I'm sure they are great preformers but I wouldn't by the thing based on how it looks.

The only British cars I see in my area are Jags, which are only owned by Ford brass. Jags are terriable cars, I wouldn't ever own one. There are a ton of Land Rovers which I think are pretty much next to usless. I've maybe seen 2 Lotus in the past year, both owned by my buddy's dad. British cars are sold here in the US, I'm just guessing not in the Midwest. Plus everyone I've ever spoken with who has had a Jag has hated the thing. They say to many problems for the price they paid. I'm sure it would have been fine if it would have been a cheaper car.

Of course that doesn't stop you enjoying our motorsport... F1? All but two are based in England (including French Renault). World Rally? All built in England (yes, even the Japanese ones). How about IRL? Did you know that all of your chassis (whatever the plural for THAT is) are made in the UK?

I don't watch F1, the WRC, or IRL. I really find motorsports boring as all hell to watch on the television. Sure I turned on Le Mans for about an hour. The only type of motosports I actually will attend is drag racing events in Lapeer Michigan, and autocross everts in a local parking lot. Like I said motorsports bore the hell out of me.

GT40? You paid for it, we designed and built it.

Ford of UK, makes sense that it would be made there. The new ones are built in Wixom.
 
BlazinXtreme
Nope not kidding you, they are ugly. the Griffith looks like a bad S2000, the Chimeria's ass is ugly with the tails, the Tuscan is just bizarre looking but I don't like it. The link in the right doesn't work. But it's all a matter of opinion, I think Skylines are ugly as well. I'm not saying TVR's are bad cars, I'm sure they are great preformers but I wouldn't by the thing based on how it looks.

Wow. You need help. The Griffith is one of the most beautiful cars ever - and at idle the exhaust kills any wildlife within 400 yards.

BlazinXtreme
The only British cars I see in my area are Jags, which are only owned by Ford brass. Jags are terriable cars, I wouldn't ever own one. There are a ton of Land Rovers which I think are pretty much next to usless. I've maybe seen 2 Lotus in the past year, both owned by my buddy's dad. British cars are sold here in the US, I'm just guessing not in the Midwest. Plus everyone I've ever spoken with who has had a Jag has hated the thing. They say to many problems for the price they paid. I'm sure it would have been fine if it would have been a cheaper car.

Oddly, my dad's had two. An XJ and an S-Type.

Land Rovers DO suck bad - especially the Freelander. But the Defender and earlier generations are still one of the most capable off-road cars on the planet.
 
Wow. You need help. The Griffith is one of the most beautiful cars ever - and at idle the exhaust kills any wildlife within 400 yards.

So my opinion is wrong? I think a lot of cars are ugly that many people would say look good. In my eyes I don't like TVR's at all. I can find something wrong with every car on the market as far as styling goes. I'll even attack the Vette and say the ass is to stubby and the headlight needed to be something completly different. I think one of the best looking cars on the market is the 350Z to tell you the truth.

Oddly, my dad's had two. An XJ and an S-Type.

Me = Michigan, USA
You = Yorkshire, UK
 
Excluding Lotus Elise, TVRs are the most interesting British cars IMO. I'd love to see them in the U.S.
 
Blazin, tbh I can't believe you disslike TVR's styling so much, still it's upto you. And tbh I suppose I fel the same about the Vette, when it comes to looks imo the Vette looks ugly compared to a Tuscan, Cerbera, Griffith (which regardless of you're opinion on likeing or disliking it, looks nothing like an S2000, let alone a weak S2000, the Griffith looks far better than the S2000), T350 ect. I think TVR's are among the best looking cars EVER. But thats all down to personal preference, and while I can't see what some people see in the C6, they can't see what I see in the Tuscan or Cerbera ect.
 
BlazinXtreme
So my opinion is wrong?

No, you just had a taste-chip bypass. :D

BlazinXtreme
I think one of the best looking cars on the market is the 350Z to tell you the truth.

See? Perfectly normal opinion. Must be an aberration. Try rebooting the system - THEN you'll like TVR :D

BlazinXtreme
Me = Michigan, USA
You = Yorkshire, UK

So.... whu?

You said that all Jaguars are awful and everyone you've ever spoken to has hated it. I say my dad liked his so much he bought another one.

So what's the issue here? Are Jaguars not suited for American roads? I'd find that tough to believe, since the ride is so soft and supple. Are Jaguars crapified when they hit US dealers? Did they buy them on impulse without having been inside them and not found them luxurious enough?

My dad's loved his two. He says they're like "driving a living room". He only dropped the XJ because it (the 200hp 3.2 litre V8, 9s to 60mph, limited to 155mph) wasn't quick enough.
 
I have no real opinion on TVR's. I don't know them well enough to like or hate them. However, from pictures I've seen and from the numbers I glanced at, they're pretty darn scary looking cars from a competitor standpoint. If TVR really got aggressive with their sale offices in America... oh boy... GM, Ford, and Dodge supercars would be barried with TVR receipts, lol. So uh, I'd rather not see them too often. It's bad for our American mojo.
 
So.... whu?

You said that all Jaguars are awful and everyone you've ever spoken to has hated it. I say my dad liked his so much he bought another one.

So what's the issue here? Are Jaguars not suited for American roads? I'd find that tough to believe, since the ride is so soft and supple. Are Jaguars crapified when they hit US dealers? Did they buy them on impulse without having been inside them and not found them luxurious enough?

My dad's loved his two. He says they're like "driving a living room". He only dropped the XJ because it (the 200hp 3.2 litre V8, 9s to 60mph, limited to 155mph) wasn't quick enough.

I thought you were talking about my comment saying most people here that own Jags are Ford Brass. I think people don't like them because they always seem to have problems and the amount they cost I guess they don't want to tolerate it.
 
Famine, I agree you go to Bauer and Millet on Deansgate, Manchester they have loads of imports, exotics and expensive cars in there, you ever get a chance to complare an S-Type to a Caddillac and it's a joke, the Cadillac looks like it was knocked to gether in a cottage shed (I'm not generalising Cadillacs here but I have compared a supposedly "luxury Caddy" with an S-Type and I don't know the model) and it was £50k. I mean it was a niceish car, but it looked like it should be for Mondeo money, the Jag on the other hand, my god it was nice. Also they don't tend to get that many problems so either the guys you're asking have had bad luck or there's exageration going on.
 
BlazinXtreme
I thought you were talking about my comment saying most people here that own Jags are Ford Brass. I think people don't like them because they always seem to have problems and the amount they cost I guess they don't want to tolerate it.

My dad had one big bill with the XJ, but not a lot else...

He had his wing mirror knocked off. The bill came to an awesome £592 (that's about $1,100). The reason?

The mirrors contain six motors. The glass is also heated AND photochromatic (so that if someone comes up behind you at night with bright lights on, it changes shade so you don't get dazzled).

Buy luxury, get luxury bills. Goes with the territory, I'm afraid.
 
Famine
My dad had one big bill with the XJ, but not a lot else...

He had his wing mirror knocked off. The bill came to an awesome £592 (that's about $1,100). The reason?

The mirrors contain six motors. The glass is also heated AND photochromatic (so that if someone comes up behind you at night with bright lights on, it changes shade so you don't get dazzled).

Buy luxury, get luxury bills. Goes with the territory, I'm afraid.

Hiya! :D :O :lol: Meow! (='.'=)

That is some impressive technology! :O 👍 Although the wing mirror is expensive, I still think its worth the money because it is something that can be looked at as a safety measure when someone's light is dazzling your wing mirror! :O
 
Or you can do what I did and spend $15 to tint my side mirrors blue. I have no problem during the day and at night the lights don't bother me at all.
 
BlazinXtreme
Or you can do what I did and spend $15 to tint my side mirrors blue. I have no problem during the day and at night the lights don't bother me at all.

Blazin, normally I agree with what you've been saying. But come on. We're talking about a Jag here, not a ford escort. You don't put cheap tint on a 65,000$ car. Not if you have any respect for cars.
 
Oh I was just making a point saying that some of the stuff isn't needed. But we really got off topic, lets jump back on Z06.
 
BlazinXtreme
Oh I was just making a point saying that some of the stuff isn't needed. But we really got off topic, lets jump back on Z06.

Excellent point.

I like the looks of the old Z06 better then the new one, except for the headlights. Thank God they finally got away from the heavier, dragging, folding headlights.
 
I'm kind of glad they went for the new lights, they work a ton better at night.

*Swift spammers are on the attack!!!
 
Wasn't the C5 the last production car with pop up lights?
I didn't like the look of the C5 hardtop (which the Z06 was) compared to the T-top version. I'm glad they didn't do the same setup with the new one.
 
I like the size of the c5 more than the C6... The C6 is almost as beautiful as vettes git, but they are so small. They just don't scream "I'm a big bag vette" anymore..Ya know?
 
Famine
You are kidding me, right?



Let's just name all the British cars sold in the US. Ever.

Errrr.

Hmmm.

In all seriousness, you're looking at one type of car, really. The executive car - Jaguar (and don't tell me Jaguars don't sell in the US), Bentley, Rolls-Royce. They're bought by wealthy people. I can't imagine (m)any other "British" cars have ever made it to sale in the US. Sure, there's the recent introduction of the Elise (and you still don't get the Exige - pity) and TVR plans to move over there too, but you're missing out on a whole bundle of Aston Martins, Lotusesesesi throughout history (S1 Elan, S2 Elan, Se7en, Elite, Esprit - bar 8 Sport 350s, which were actually softened for the US market and struck off the Sport 350 list by Lotus - Elite, Excel, Eclat, Europa, M250), some of our finest cottage cars (Morgans, the Ariel Atom, all Caterhams and Westfields ever, the sportier Jaguars, Invicta, Tiger), and all of the old MGs, back when MGs were MGs - the list is nearly endless. And, lest we forget, the original Issigonis Mini...

Of course you've also missed out on an awful lot of total dross over the years too - everything Vauxhall have ever made, the whole of British Leyland (Morris Ital, Morris Marina, Austin Princess, Triumph TR7), anything from MG/Rover since 1984 - so I guess it balances out.

It's not that "British" cars don't sell well in your area. They aren't sold at all in the US with only sparing exceptions - no doubt Doug could fill us all in on the details.

Of course that doesn't stop you enjoying our motorsport... F1? All but two are based in England (including French Renault). World Rally? All built in England (yes, even the Japanese ones). How about IRL? Did you know that all of your chassis (whatever the plural for THAT is) are made in the UK?

It doesn't stop you enjoying our other cars either. GT40? You paid for it, we designed and built it. Shelby Cobra? No comment. Even John Z. DeLorean's finest was a British product.


But enough about the UK and its rather bizarre motoring output. TVRs aren't ugly and British cars don't flop near you because they aren't sold in the US at all.
Famine, we get some Aston Martin dealers here.
 
FAOLIU05
Twerbos on a 5.3L V8 and it only produces 550hp? Now that sounds like a bunch of marketing bull**** to me. ;)

Holy crap! A 'Vette buff arguing a point of specific power output? I never thought I'd see the day...

It's supercharged, not turbocharged, so that all 550hp and all of the 600lbft is available all of the time with no lag. They're for driveability, not extreme power.
 
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